Trade Bagley?
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I think it is ok to trade Bagley at his all time low. He is who we see on the floor. He is not better now than he was 3 years ago. He is a malcontent and his dad is a distraction.
I am sure we will look back in 2-3 years and say "gosh look at Bagley balling out for some other team" but I don't care. Fear of that scenario can't paralyze us now
I am sure we will look back in 2-3 years and say "gosh look at Bagley balling out for some other team" but I don't care. Fear of that scenario can't paralyze us now
Get him out of the starting lineup.
Bench him. Let him watch the game. Let him earn his mins.
Yesterday Woodard had 6 rebounds in less than 5 mins and Metu had 7 pts in less than 5 mins. There are options.
Again, Metu has better hands, fights for position, passes the ball, and spreads the floor with his 3 pt shot. Give him Bagleys mins for a few games, and take it from there.
Bench him. Let him watch the game. Let him earn his mins.
Yesterday Woodard had 6 rebounds in less than 5 mins and Metu had 7 pts in less than 5 mins. There are options.
Again, Metu has better hands, fights for position, passes the ball, and spreads the floor with his 3 pt shot. Give him Bagleys mins for a few games, and take it from there.
Have to keep throwing him out there and hoping for the best. Sink or swim mode. It’s win win win win. Benching him now is only bad.
Options;
1: He’s actually awful; tank mode, we lose a lot, we know it’s time to cut the rope, we get a better pick.
2: He improves enough to rehab his trade stock; trade for something not useless.
3: He improves enough to be useful to the team.
4: He turns into the star he was drafted to be.
Options;
1: He’s actually awful; tank mode, we lose a lot, we know it’s time to cut the rope, we get a better pick.
2: He improves enough to rehab his trade stock; trade for something not useless.
3: He improves enough to be useful to the team.
4: He turns into the star he was drafted to be.
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I think there is still an opportunity for MB III to develop into a player with more refined skills who can perform consistently. While that timeframe could be later than sooner, it’s up to Marvin himself to make that happen by working his ass off and shedding negative influences like that buffoon he has for a dad. It shouldn’t matter what team that you play for or what situation you’re in, especially as a young pro athlete. Give it your all, continuously strive for improvement, and put the team first. Everything else will take care of itself in time.
Unless it's part of a package deal I don't see what you could even get for Bagley right now. He's a big man who has a usage percentage above 25% but who is shooting under 36% from the field and who is a sieve on defense that doesn't add rim protection.
At this point I think you ride it out and see if he can turn things around and become more valuable by year's end. My concern is that both he and his dad seem to lack a level of self awareness so I'm not sure if he'll realize how much work he actually needs to put it to become the player he already believes he is or that his dad thinks he be if only he were traded to a different team.
That's where OP's Giannis comparison misses the mark by a mile. Physically there may be some similarities, but from day 1 Antetokounmpo was incredibly hungry and completely focused on maxing out his potential. Bagley seems to think he just needs minutes to be great.
This is just my view from the outside looking in, but unless things change drastically I think Marvin's career path may look a lot more like Willie Cauley-Stein's.
At this point I think you ride it out and see if he can turn things around and become more valuable by year's end. My concern is that both he and his dad seem to lack a level of self awareness so I'm not sure if he'll realize how much work he actually needs to put it to become the player he already believes he is or that his dad thinks he be if only he were traded to a different team.
That's where OP's Giannis comparison misses the mark by a mile. Physically there may be some similarities, but from day 1 Antetokounmpo was incredibly hungry and completely focused on maxing out his potential. Bagley seems to think he just needs minutes to be great.
This is just my view from the outside looking in, but unless things change drastically I think Marvin's career path may look a lot more like Willie Cauley-Stein's.
The Kings have a lot invested in Bagley. The team is not too likely to make the playoffs. Playing Bagley is the right thing to do. It would be very interesting to see him improve his attitude and at least give the impression of working hard. His crummy defense may be what ultimately causes him to fade into obscurity.
Bleacher report floated (note: not reported, just speculating like we all do here) a Bagley for Markannen deal. Kings would lose a year of cost control, as he’s heading into RFA next offseason, but at least Markannen has a clearer fit as a stretch big. Not sure why the Bulls would do it, unless they really want to buy low on a hometown guy.
Edit: not sure why I thought he was from Chicago, I think he’s from Arizona.
Edit: not sure why I thought he was from Chicago, I think he’s from Arizona.
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The only way to build his trade value is not to play him 
For the record; I’m a well-known anti-Bagley guy. Don’t love his game; and I think it would be best for all parties to separate.
That said, I don’t think he is *THIS* bad of a player. He’s going to trend up before too long. Just a matter of how up he goes...
