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It's already been settled - Justin Williams by unanimous vote![]()
I believe that Randy Brown, Michael Smith, Yogi Stewart & a few others might have a bone to pick.
It's already been settled - Justin Williams by unanimous vote![]()
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I didn't realize that I was speaking in code. Yes, there's a difference. My father sired me; my dad raised me.
I don't know about "most" cases, but that sure as hell isn't the case when and where I grew up. I don't know anybody my age who grew up in the same household as their biological mother and biological father, except for my ex-wife, whose parents ironically divorced after we got married. Among my peer group, having a Dad and a father is the norm, rather than the exception. So, no, as a matter of fact, I can't understand, "sure" as you might be to the contrary. I can understand that that might have been normal for you, but I can't understand why you would assume that that was normal for me as well, instead of taking what I said at face value?When referring to my original statement in reply to yours, I'm sure you can understand that I didn't know you had a Dad and a Father, and that the two were separate. In most cases, one's father is his dad. Sometimes I think you just want to argue about everything. I don't, so I bid you farewell on this subject
I don't know about "most" cases, but that sure as hell isn't the case when and where I grew up. I don't know anybody my age who grew up in the same household as their biological mother and biological father, except for my ex-wife, whose parents ironically divorced after we got married. Among my peer group, having a Dad and a father is the norm, rather than the exception. So, no, as a matter of fact, I can't understand, "sure" as you might be to the contrary. I can understand that that might have been normal for you, but I can't understand why you would assume that that was normal for me as well, instead of taking what I said at face value?
As far as your comments about me, personally, I don't actually "like" to argue about anything. I will openly admit to two particular character flaws (one, I'm a pedant, and two, I'm an abrasive, confrontational person, both on the internet and in real life) which cause me to get into a lot of arguments, but I don't enjoy arguing with people. I don't even enjoy talking to people. If anything, I'm borderline-OCD in my inability to let things drop: I don't get any pleasure out of it, at all.
I will never forget the pandemonium on these boards for that one game Justin Williams somehow outplayed YaoIt's already been settled - Justin Williams by unanimous vote![]()
"You guys" answers. I have Ervin #6 and Hakeem #8. I have MJ #3 but no problem with him #2 or #1. Jordan never won NBA title until Scottie Pippen arrived and may have never won any without that duo doing their thing. He took couple seasons off in middle of Bulls championship runs to go try baseball which he totally failed at. Also, in middle of some sort of personal crisis period there were charges of gambling addiction (some say de facto NBA ban) plus his father being murdered - perhaps related to MJ gambling debt. MJ could have probably been unquestioned greatest basketball player ever, and might still be, but he left the door open to endless debate with some questionable personal decisions.
"You guys" answers. I have Ervin #6 and Hakeem #8. I have MJ #3 but no problem with him #2 or #1. Jordan never won NBA title until Scottie Pippen arrived and may have never won any without that duo doing their thing. He took couple seasons off in middle of Bulls championship runs to go try baseball which he totally failed at. Also, in middle of some sort of personal crisis period there were charges of gambling addiction (some say de facto NBA ban) plus his father being murdered - perhaps related to MJ gambling debt. MJ could have probably been unquestioned greatest basketball player ever, and might still be, but he left the door open to endless debate with some questionable personal decisions.
"You guys" answers. I have Ervin #6 and Hakeem #8. I have MJ #3 but no problem with him #2 or #1. Jordan never won NBA title until Scottie Pippen arrived and may have never won any without that duo doing their thing. He took couple seasons off in middle of Bulls championship runs to go try baseball which he totally failed at. Also, in middle of some sort of personal crisis period there were charges of gambling addiction (some say de facto NBA ban) plus his father being murdered - perhaps related to MJ gambling debt. MJ could have probably been unquestioned greatest basketball player ever, and might still be, but he left the door open to endless debate with some questionable personal decisions.
How you guys all don't have Michael Jordan as number one is beyond me. And Magic was better than Hakeem!
Relax, dude. Didn't mean to quote you, too, but this website trips out sometimes. I was laughing at purplehaze's comment.Really? You're flipping out laughing that hard? Guess some people are more easily entertained than others.
Relax, dude. Didn't mean to quote you, too, but this website trips out sometimes. I was laughing at purplehaze's comment.