TNT half time question:Which rookie PG do you like the most?
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Section 101 doesn't have the credibility to get away with being "just the messenger," is the problem. His track record around here causes his posting that to come across as his backhanded way of saying "See? I TOLD you Evans isn't a point guard!"
Although he'd also be the RPGOY... debatable but more or less.
Rookie
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True, but let's not base on his viewpoint from the past when it hasn't been given yet on this topic.
That doesn't really make logical sense... If everyday for the last year I have been having cereal for breakfast and today I talk about a new cereal that has come to my attention and make it known to everybody it isn't logical to assume that I won't be having cereal for breakfast today. Sorry for the very long sentence
FaStRmAn
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And how is that weird? They ARE using the position shell game to try and downplay Evans as much as they can. WHY? It's not an accident. It is a concerted effort to push some other candidate other than Evans. A lot of these talking heads were hoping it would be Steff Curry, but he can't even make 'Reke's average on most nights! AND 'Reke has been doing it all year!! Jennings had one game of 55 and what has he done since? Anyone with a brain is voting for Evans for ROY!
And the Kings Front Office isn't losing any PR battle trying to convince other NBA Savvy people that Evans is a PG! NBA Executives KNOW what a PG is and isn't! Even our dear friend Phil Jackson said that Evans "Isn't a PG in the traditional Sense" Which means he is a SCORING POINT GUARD! There really is no PR battle to try and convince anyone that Evans isn't our LEAD guard because he is. But it is the efforts of the talking heads from the East Coast that have tried to dilute and diminish Evans's efforts by trying to confuse and obfuscate his role and its importance in order to push another candidate, preferably from the East Coast!
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Rookie
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That doesn't really make logical sense... If everyday for the last year I have been having cereal for breakfast and today I talk about a new cereal that has come to my attention and make it known to everybody it isn't logical to assume that I won't be having cereal for breakfast today. Sorry for the very long sentence
Huh?
If you talk about the new cereal, then let you talk about it. But until you eat it, we can't jump to a conclusion that you're gonna or not gonna eat it.
Of course you can assume but don't make it like it's a fact until it happened.
Anyway I did a little comparison to see where Evans is as a PG. The only stat that I believe to represent as being the better PG would be the Assist to Turnover ratio.
Top ten PG of 2009-2010 from some website (doesn't matter but they're mostly up there but using their rookie year) + the rookies (as of right now). I have to convert to per 40 min to be fair for some players. In order of best to worst:
Chris Paul 3.32
Derrick Rose 2.53
Deron Williams 2.49
jennings 2.42
Tony Parker 2.19
Steve Nash 2.16
Rajon Rondo 2.15
collison 2.07
Aaron Brooks 1.98
Evans 1.96
curry 1.86
Gilbert Arenas 1.80
Chauncey Billups 1.71
flynn 1.55
Mo Williams 1.46
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kingsnation
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If Shaq were to bring the ball up the floor and then plant himself under the hoop, and happened to average 10 assists a game and a 4/5 steals but still matched-up against the opposing teams' center, would he still not be considered a center?
TNT would call him the greatest center/player of all time.
Reke is our PG. And he should be considered as such, even if his game doesn't always fit what people may believe is "conventional."
TNT would call him the greatest center/player of all time.
Reke is our PG. And he should be considered as such, even if his game doesn't always fit what people may believe is "conventional."
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Circa_1985_Fan
All-Star
Tyreke is our PG, and tonight he's about to show Jennings who the 'true' PG is...Tyreke is averaging 7 assists in the month of March, and has averaged 6.7 assists since February...not bad for a guy that plays off the ball, eh?? Mr. Jennings hasnt had double digit assists in a game since January, and has been pretty average for the past 3 months, other than an occasional 20 pt game here and there.
Circa_1985_Fan
All-Star
No biggie, he wasnt up there, so we know who you WOULD have picked if he was.i like curry the most
dont shot me
evans would been my 1st pick but his not there
kingsnation
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Vlade4GM
All-Star
So you're saying there's a conspiracy against the Kings?
Grawlix
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Conspiracy is too strong of a word. I do believe that there is a bias towards bigger market teams. I've noticed that in professional sports organizations there seems to be a "favored" team and an "unfavored" team in any major state.
For example:
Lakers, Clippers
Warriors, Kings
Yankees, Mets
Giants, Jets
White Sox, Cubs
Etc.....
Two team markets make more money for any sports league, such as the NBA. The sad thing is the smaller market, by its very nature, will pull in less money than the bigger market team. Therefore, I believe that the bigger market teams will be favored in order to boost income.
A ROY award, and a superstar is a huge boost for any franchise. What makes it worse is that Sacramento, already hit hard by the economy, is producing less income and may potentially be moved by its owners. What that means to me is that the NBA may be trying to cut its losses with Sacramento and to infuse additional income into the Bay Area (an already viable market).
Awarding Curry the ROY would increase ticket and merchandise sales in the Bay Area while essentially making it harder for the Sacramento Kings to gain support for a new arena. The NBA wins, Sacramento loses.
I know I sound overly skeptical, but that is what I have believed since the Western Conference Finals 2002 (Donaghy allegations notwithstanding). I will hedge my statements here by stating that I have no evidence for any of these beliefs. However, that is still the way I feel.
I hope I'm wrong
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Padrino
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i don't really understand any of these arguments. tyreke evans is the sacramento kings' starting pg. that's the position he plays, regardless of how well somebody thinks he "fits" there. so his name shouldn't be left out of pg discussions, amongst kings fans or national media bobbleheads...
regardless, people don't really worry about whether lebron james is a small forward or not. the guy could play positions 1-4 on just about any given night, and it wouldn't effect his game all that much...
tyreke evans is a special player of the same mold. he may not achieve lebron's level of greatness, but its not unthinkable that he could, either. his rookie numbers aren't on the level of michael jordan or oscar robertson, but they are remarkably comparable to the only other 20/5/5 club member, and in fewer minutes per game. i'm just sayin'...
regardless, people don't really worry about whether lebron james is a small forward or not. the guy could play positions 1-4 on just about any given night, and it wouldn't effect his game all that much...
tyreke evans is a special player of the same mold. he may not achieve lebron's level of greatness, but its not unthinkable that he could, either. his rookie numbers aren't on the level of michael jordan or oscar robertson, but they are remarkably comparable to the only other 20/5/5 club member, and in fewer minutes per game. i'm just sayin'...
Kingster
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Me too. They are looking for a controversy where it doesn't exist.
