The sky is...NOT falling!

SLAB

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After this recent loss to the Golden State Warriors, I have noticed quite a bit of negativity.

The sky is falling, we need to make trades, fire Adleman, its PANIC TIME!

I think that all that is wrong. Every team has a few bad losses a year, come on people! We are 17 and 9. We are the number 4 seed in the West. We have a great team that can beat anyone on any given night.

The loss to the Heat was just a choke. Plain and simple. We should have had that. Then the loss to GS was just bad. Another game we should have won, but our minds were just not there. Hopefully a few days off will let us clear our minds, and get us back on a winning trail!

Another cause for distress is the Jackson injury. It sucks, I know. But positives can come out of it. Bobby has seemed maybe a step slower on D this year. Abdomen still bothering him, ever so slightly? Three months might be a nice little antedote. Also, you know he will be fired up upon return. Which happens to be right near playoff time. And also he can still shoot when practicing, as his injury is on his off hand, so he won't be overly rusty on return. His injury also gives us a chance to look at Mo Evans, who looks like a hustler we can definatly use.

Lets wait a few more games before we all start panicing. We need to hold our heads up. We can't let a few losses bother us THIS bad! And, lets just remain positive!



GO KINGS!!!
 
Maybe your right, we are better than our record shows , we give up leads too much ... my question is come playoff time will we still let teams hang around till the end of the game or can we step up and play a complete game of basketball agianst the west's elite.
 
This should make some people feel better.... Mark Jackson said last night on Sportscenter that the Miami Heat will win the NBA champoinship.



See doesnt that make you feel a bit better now?:p
 
No the sky is NOT falling. But it has become overcast and the starters don't seem to notice. The Coach did based on his quotes in the Bee this morning:

"Adelman, meanwhile, went home wondering how to get the machine out of the mud without getting splattered by the debris.

Adelman suggested that the Kings act as if they are better than they really are, taking their years of Arco Arena success for granted and sleepwalking instead of planting their feet on throats through key stretches. He warned the Kings about a letup against the Warriors, and no amount of timeouts or barking seemed to make the point.

"It doesn't matter what the team's record is. None of that matters," Adelman lamented."

Someone a few days ago suggested it was attitude among the starters. Not that we need to make a trade, or fire the coach. That makes a bunch of sense. The starters appear to have an attitude problem. Coach thinks so too. But changing attitude among high paid pros could be a little like trying to stuff a rattlesnake in a tennis ball can. You know it may fit but how to get it done? :D
 
This is RA's 8th year here in Sac and I'm always reminded of what Larry Bird once said as to the reason why he quit as the Pacers coach after three seasons...He said that after three years, players tend to tune out the coach. I think that this is precisely what has happened in Sac. Sure there are many examples where this has not happened in the NBA, but I really believe that the players for the most part have tuned RA out.
 
sorry i'm not buying this today. our record is good, but we've feasted on the mediocre/bad teams. we've beaten one elite team, and our only other quality win was probably against the lakers, who easily returned us the favor.

it's not just this one loss to the warriors, but a compilation of frustrations stemming from the team's lack of attention to details, and mental lapses in the big moments.

i disagree with the statement that we have a team that can beat anyone on any given night. we have not proven that. all we've proven is we can stay competitive with just about anyone, but we have not demonstrated what it takes to win.

i know i'm being more negative than some of you on this board would like, but that's how i feel ... very frustrated. i'm not given up on this team, and i don't think the sky is falling. but what i've seen thus far from this team gives me more concern than i've ever had.
 
webberfan said:
sorry i'm not buying this today. our record is good, but we've feasted on the mediocre/bad teams. we've beaten one elite team, and our only other quality win was probably against the lakers, who easily returned us the favor.

it's not just this one loss to the warriors, but a compilation of frustrations stemming from the team's lack of attention to details, and mental lapses in the big moments.
i disagree with the statement that we have a team that can beat anyone on any given night.
we have not proven that. all we've proven is we can stay competitive with just about anyone, but we have not demonstrated what it takes to win.

i know i'm being more negative than some of you on this board would like, but that's how i feel ... very frustrated. i'm not given up on this team, and i don't think the sky is falling. but what i've seen thus far from this team gives me more concern than i've ever had.
While it is true that this team has given us more reason for concern then any team since 2001, it is not true that we do not have the ability to beat anyone on any given night. If we could not beat anyone on any given night I would not watch. And for that matter I would not have watched in the 80's and 90's. We always have a chance to win. These days, thankfully, we have a much better chance of winning then losing on any given night.
 
CruzDude said:
Someone a few days ago suggested it was attitude among the starters. Not that we need to make a trade, or fire the coach. That makes a bunch of sense. The starters appear to have an attitude problem. Coach thinks so too. But changing attitude among high paid pros could be a little like trying to stuff a rattlesnake in a tennis ball can. You know it may fit but how to get it done? :D
After last year, I wondered if we were going to have a Lakers-type regular season. It comes from an attitude that the season is meangingless until the playoffs. That's what appears to have happened, and I can't think of any magic words Adelman or anyone could say to change it...assuming he would even try - I think he's always been an X's and O's coach.
 
record speaks for itself ...yes, the kings are 17-9 as of today (12/28).
here's the breakdown:

record vs teams above .500 (team's record as listed by nba.com on 12/28)

3-7
- phoenix
- la lakers
- washington
of the 7 losses, two are vs minni .

14-2 against teams under .500

most of those 14 wins are against east coast teams (9 of the 14). so the record should be a little alarming if you look at what the kings face, more west conf teams which to date the kings have struggled against.

so is the sky falling or not? depends on what your looking for this team to accomplish. i don't see anything in there that says the kings are a challenge to the t'wolves or SA.

after tonight's game vs the spurs, kings go on the road for 4 games, against weak east coast teams (NY, toronto, atlanta & NO). if the kings don't go at least 3-1 on that trip, i would say the sky is not only falling, but the ground is shaking as well.
 
Well, if we dont show up against the Spurs tonight, we'll probbaly start to hear a bit of rumbling, dontcha think?? I know the Spurs are the Spurs...but yet again, its an attitude...a championship attitude that we dont have, at least last year we tried. Its that extra bit of adrenaline I was talking about in earlier posts. It just isnt there this season. Hell, trade for Jon Barry, at least he'll get the team fired up...we're walking zombies at the moment.
 
Circa_1985_Fan said:
Well, if we dont show up against the Spurs tonight, we'll probbaly start to hear a bit of rumbling, dontcha think?? I know the Spurs are the Spurs...but yet again, its an attitude...a championship attitude that we dont have, at least last year we tried. Its that extra bit of adrenaline I was talking about in earlier posts. It just isnt there this season. Hell, trade for Jon Barry, at least he'll get the team fired up...we're walking zombies at the moment.
Um, we aren't playing the Spurs tonight. If we show up, we'll be the only ones there...
 
VF21 said:
Um, we aren't playing the Spurs tonight. If we show up, we'll be the only ones there...
Whew VF! I'm glad you straightened that out. Here I had my schedule out double-checking, thinking maybe I couldn't read!:D
 
Sunday, of course, is what I was talking about...but we always have a tough time with Utah..even though we've won a bunch there the past few years. With AK-47 out, Boozer has picked up the slack, he's a monster right now.
 
sorry... i didn't catch the utah game before the spurs game ... the nba webpage could use some visual upgrades, but anyway my point remains the same.
 
Heuge said:
While it is true that this team has given us more reason for concern then any team since 2001, it is not true that we do not have the ability to beat anyone on any given night. If we could not beat anyone on any given night I would not watch. And for that matter I would not have watched in the 80's and 90's. We always have a chance to win. These days, thankfully, we have a much better chance of winning then losing on any given night.
on any given night, any team can beat any other team. yes, even the lowliest team could beat the best team if the latter overlooks the former, doesn't play hard, if the stars are aligned, etc. this is why they play the game, and why it is a competition.

i find no solace in this knowledge. it would lift my spirits greatly if this team could go out and beat an elite team. they get another chance sunday.

sorry utah, unlike the players, i can look ahead in the schedule because i'm just a fan.
 
webberfan said:
on any given night, any team can beat any other team. yes, even the lowliest team could beat the best team if the latter overlooks the former, doesn't play hard, if the stars are aligned, etc. this is why they play the game, and why it is a competition.

i find no solace in this knowledge. it would lift my spirits greatly if this team could go out and beat an elite team. they get another chance sunday.

sorry utah, unlike the players, i can look ahead in the schedule because i'm just a fan.
Personally, it would lift my spirits greatly if the team went out and played four consecutive quarters of GOOD basketball. The actual final score is nowhere near as important to me as seeing a concerted effort...
 
I am with VF21 on this one. IF for soem weird rearos Utah canpaly 4 qoarters of awsome ball and the Kings loose a close one playing 4 quarters of great ball I'll be happy. Of course given the curent state of the Jazz I am sure that the Kings palying 4 good quarters will be more than enough.
 
HndsmCelt said:
I am with VF21 on this one. IF for soem weird rearos Utah canpaly 4 qoarters of awsome ball and the Kings loose a close one playing 4 quarters of great ball I'll be happy. Of course given the curent state of the Jazz I am sure that the Kings palying 4 good quarters will be more than enough.
4 quarters of good basketball against a good team ... that's what i'm asking for. hopefully we won't have to wait for the next meeting with new orleans for 4 quarters of good basketball.
 
webberfan said:
4 quarters of good basketball against a good team ... that's what i'm asking for. hopefully we won't have to wait for the next meeting with new orleans for 4 quarters of good basketball.
:rolleyes:

What difference does it make if it's against a "good" team or not? The KINGS have not put together 4 GOOD quarters of sound basketball ALL year. There's a big difference between just beating a team like the Hornets and playing good, intelligent KINGS basketball from opening buzzer until the bitter end.
 
VF21 said:
:rolleyes:

What difference does it make if it's against a "good" team or not? The KINGS have not put together 4 GOOD quarters of sound basketball ALL year. There's a big difference between just beating a team like the Hornets and playing good, intelligent KINGS basketball from opening buzzer until the bitter end.
There is a difference. It is easier to put together 4 good quarters against a lower teir team.
With that said, I have not seen four good quarters from this team, yet. (and I like you VF, I would love to see it)
 
Heuge said:
There is a difference. It is easier to put together 4 good quarters against a lower teir team.
With that said, I have not seen four good quarters from this team, yet. (and I like you VF, I would love to see it)
Well, the next week or so of games will be huge, as far as maturity of this team, and seeing whether this team can hang with the elite...which I do think we are a part of, still, even through the latest struggles.(even though we're still 17-9) Tough stretch of games upcoming.
 
Heuge said:
There is a difference. It is easier to put together 4 good quarters against a lower teir team.
I have to respectfully disagree, especially with the Kings. They have a tendency to play up to OR down to the level of their competition. It is actually, therefore, easier for them to put up 4 good quarters against a good team because they won't get lackadaisical, etc. They tend to get very sloppy against poor teams because they know darned well they could blow them out completely if they played at their best levels.

And that brings up something else. I want to see some stupid blowouts, where we put our feet on the throats of the opponents and LEAVE THEM THERE! Play pedal to the metal, exterior genitalia out, and give the opponent a good old-fashioned thrashing. I'm tired of polite. I want to see the killer mentality.

:D
 
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