The reason why we are losing

[DaMan]

After watching the game yesterday, the problem is not shareef and the game flow, i really think it's a mixture of things. As a team we shot to many jumpers, even our big men were shoting way to many jumpers (and what even made this worst is when we couldn't make a jumper we still keep on shooting) and i was dying for them to put shareef in for some kind of post treat. And in general Bibby and shareef were the only ones making an effort of scoring in the paint, driving or posting up wise.

And for god sakes trade hart and peja already because they just suck. Every time they air balled or bricked a shot i wanted to hit something, it was just sad. And some of these shots were just some of the easist and wide open shots i have ever seen in my life and they missed it, even my grandmama could have made thoes shots.

All those things that i stated above could have easily been fixed by the coach but he did nothing. RA needs to be fired, nothing against him but he is doing a awful job.

And the reason we went on a 3 game winning steak is not because of thomas starting and shareef being on the bench its because bibby and brad had big games over the week, if thoes two did this all year instead of just in a week we could have had won more games. And do not even bring up, since sar has been out they got the ball more, because shareef is only avg 11 shots per game. If anything, giving sar more shots in the post, instead of living and dying by the jumper would help this team more.

 

[vj9999]

SAR has been pretty "quiet" last 2 games

Who's AD? RA

 

[BMiller52]

Adelman. I was watching nuggets/spurs and they were showing a preview of this new show with Ahmad Rashad right? Well, he went inside the nuggets practice and Karl is a much better coach. He was talking about their transition D not having any direction and than he said the way they're practicing they're just going to get worse because they'll develope bad habbits. He was also saying "attack, penetrate, cut, move, do something!" Well Denver is a pretty active team right? Well that's because the coach wants them doing stuff instead of just staying in the corner. Adelman says STAY IN THE CORNER, I DON'T WANT YOU MESSING UP THE OFFENSIVE SET. Adelman needs to go IMO. A team plays with the passion/personality it's coach has. We play passive, adelman is passive. Denver plays wild, Karl is wild. SA Plays with defensive intensity, Popovich is a very intense/angry guy. Phoenix plays with creativity, D'antoni is creative. I'm sure everyone knows this, but I'd just like to point out that THE COACH has to instill something in the team. He has to give it a personality or identity. He isn't.

 

[SK23]

I agree, this team has turned into a jump shooting team and you know what they say "you win by the jumpshot but you also die by the jumpshot" which is what is happening to our team. Unless we start shooting like the Suns which I doubt this team can do, we have to do something about this. Shareef should be starting IMO, he is the only one that actually wanted to play yesterday. This system is not letting Shareef be the scorer he is. Shareef is not a player that likes to run out and shoot jump shots, he is a player that likes to work in the low post and get you high percentage shots which is good if Bibby and everyone else adjust to it which they havn't proved yet. I describe KT with the same word, INCONSISTENT because he will give you all his effort, scoring, and defense one night and then forget about trying to do that the next game.

 

[SK23]

SAR has been pretty "quiet" last 2 games

Who's AD? RA

LOL he's not even suppose to be playing for at least 2 more weeks, so we would of lost the Lakers game if he wasn't there. You think Kenny Thomas would ever play with his jaws wired shut. He would probably be nagging about his playing time.

 

[DaMan]

SAR has been pretty "quiet" last 2 games

Who's AD? RA

LoL, nice joke. I didn't even see that RA mistake, i will fix it.

 

[Twix]

Adelman says STAY IN THE CORNER, I DON'T WANT YOU MESSING UP THE OFFENSIVE SET. Adelman needs to go IMO.

Where did you hear him say that?

 

[John Galt]

Adelman. I was watching nuggets/spurs and they were showing a preview of this new show with Ahmad Rashad right? Well, he went inside the nuggets practice and Karl is a much better coach. He was talking about their transition D not having any direction and than he said the way they're practicing they're just going to get worse because they'll develope bad habbits. He was also saying "attack, penetrate, cut, move, do something!" Well Denver is a pretty active team right? Well that's because the coach wants them doing stuff instead of just staying in the corner. Adelman says STAY IN THE CORNER, I DON'T WANT YOU MESSING UP THE OFFENSIVE SET. Adelman needs to go IMO. A team plays with the passion/personality it's coach has. We play passive, adelman is passive. Denver plays wild, Karl is wild. SA Plays with defensive intensity, Popovich is a very intense/angry guy. Phoenix plays with creativity, D'antoni is creative. I'm sure everyone knows this, but I'd just like to point out that THE COACH has to instill something in the team. He has to give it a personality or identity. He isn't.

Karl hasn't won jack! Same deal as Adelman - gets you close but never over the hump. He couldn't accomplish squat when the Bucks had the big 3. No thanks.

 

[bcfy]

When we win, its usually due to 1 or 2 players having career night in that game or at least some A+ games...for example:

in loses, Bibby average 17.x points per game
in wins, he average 24.x points per game

seems to me it's more about individual effort than team effort (i know, it's sad)

I feel that it's getting so normal for this team to lose...how about change the title to "why are we winning"? Sounds more right to me...

 

[Bricklayer]

Where did you hear him say that?

A much overhyped article from a few weeks back. Think the main reference was to Garcia breakng sets, but also mentioned Kevin.

In any case, people always want the easy answer, the scapegoat, the quick fix. Its all Peja's fault! Or all Reef's fault! Or all Rick's fault! Or...B.S. Its not their fault when we have a good homestand. But abruptly its all their fault when we have a bad half.

Team's got a lot of issues. There are no quick fixes.

 

[HndsmCelt]

I have done some calculations and it seems to me the problem is that other teams score more points than us.

 

[piksi]

I have done some calculations and it seems to me the problem is that other teams score more points than us.

especially in our losses

we are 0 - 22 when the opponents outscore us

 

[DaMan]

When we win, its usually due to 1 or 2 players having career night in that game or at least some A+ games...for example:

in loses, Bibby average 17.x points per game
in wins, he average 24.x points per game

seems to me it's more about individual effort than team effort (i know, it's sad)

I feel that it's getting so normal for this team to lose...how about change the title to "why are we winning"? Sounds more right to me...

Yea, mainly the guys who needs to give us the big nights to win are Brad and bibby. i also think that shareef could give u big nights if he got the ball more often.

 

[KP]

The reason why we are losing is simple... we aren't that talented, we aren't that good.

 

[Gary]

When you havea passive coach, and a leaderless team where nobody is willing to speak up than you can put all the players you want in there and nothing will come of it.

 

[love_them_kings]

When you havea passive coach, and a leaderless team where nobody is willing to speak up than you can put all the players you want in there and nothing will come of it.

we have the same coach we have had for all those seasons we had exceptional records. And maybe that is a problem in the sense that RA hasn't had to speak up so much in the past. With the leaders this team has had, Rick hasn't had to lead the team in the sense where he has to explain to them why they want to win. This year, there's no leader telling the guys that it matters if we win or lose. And we have a leaderless team because, why? Oh yeah, we decided that losing or trading all of our leaders in one year wasn't a problem. Losing Vlade, then trading Webb, Christie and Jackson tore this team apart because the leaders are gone, all at once, all of a sudden.

We are trying to put this team back together again, but I guess it's not as easy at it looks to put together a "team". It's a rough road, and filled with frustration and agony, sometimes even disgust, but luckily we have a great moment here and there to lighten it up a little. The Lakers game on Thursday was one of those moments that really made me smile, because it was a great moment in a not so great season.

 

[KP]

Good posts by both you guys^^.

 

[6th]

I'm with KP on this one. Those were both good posts. Getting a bunch of good players and putting together a good team are two different things. We have only had flashes of what these players can do as a team, but without leadership, well...

 

[VF21]

I have done some calculations and it seems to me the problem is that other teams score more points than us.

Do you think this is an ongoing situation or merely a statistical anomaly?

 

[piksi]

Do you think this is an ongoing situation or merely a statistical anomaly?

it seams to be more often than not

 

[HndsmCelt]

Do you think this is an ongoing situation or merely a statistical anomaly?

I needed one more sampeling to be sure but after carefully watching tonight game it was at EXACTLY the point that we scored more than the Heat that the Kings began winning and then at the exact moment that the Kings let Miami out score them the loosing began.

 

[VF21]

You may have stumbled onto something. I sincerely hope you forward this hypothesis to the Kings for careful analysis.

 

[kings4life]

101% agree with this!

After watching the game yesterday, the problem is not shareef and the game flow, i really think it's a mixture of things. As a team we shot to many jumpers, even our big men were shoting way to many jumpers (and what even made this worst is when we couldn't make a jumper we still keep on shooting) and i was dying for them to put shareef in for some kind of post treat. And in general Bibby and shareef were the only ones making an effort of scoring in the paint, driving or posting up wise.

And for god sakes trade hart and peja already because they just suck. Every time they air balled or bricked a shot i wanted to hit something, it was just sad. And some of these shots were just some of the easist and wide open shots i have ever seen in my life and they missed it, even my grandmama could have made thoes shots.

All those things that i stated above could have easily been fixed by the coach but he did nothing. RA needs to be fired, nothing against him but he is doing a awful job.

And the reason we went on a 3 game winning steak is not because of thomas starting and shareef being on the bench its because bibby and brad had big games over the week, if thoes two did this all year instead of just in a week we could have had won more games. And do not even bring up, since sar has been out they got the ball more, because shareef is only avg 11 shots per game. If anything, giving sar more shots in the post, instead of living and dying by the jumper would help this team more.

i think peja hart and corliss need to go! we should try to get a ok center and a ok pg! but i dont kno who we can get that would be good maybe tyson chandler or marcus cambey! dont kno but i think they need to go!

 

[PixelPusher]

(sigh)...

This Kings team never fails to tease us, then disappoint us.

 

[slugking50]

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non other then Wayne Cooper. It's all FAULT!! Blame HIM!!

 

[hey_gripboy]

lets get PG-watson and SF-artest, both can score and play D!!!

 

[me,myself & I]

because BIBBY can't guard a rock. but he sure can chuck up 50,000 shots!!!

TRADE HIS FOOL SELF

 

[SK23]

I hear a lot of people saying a leader is the most important thing but there are some teams that win without leader like Memphis.

 

[Bricklayer]

I hear a lot of people saying a leader is the most important thing but there are some teams that win without leader like Memphis.

Unfortunately the only two things I remember Memphis winning were jack and squat.

And actually they now have several decent leaders on their team, including one of our old ones. Real keys though are a hard driving coach who has filled the leadership void for the moment (history says they will tire of him, but not yet), and the fact they have a clear #1 and know which side their bread is buttered on. They aren't going anywhere exciting though. Back to the playoffs. Then back home until/unless they are somehow able to find themself a truly special player or two. Admittedly still better than us, but the sort of team we dismissed once upon a time.

 

[kennadog]

We're losing, because we are not that good of a team, period. We are not very good in a lot of different ways. And HndsmCelt has supported this theory with brilliant statistical calculations.