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The Kings don't play the Princeton anymore!!!!!

There's something wrong with a big if the best thing someone has to say about him is that he's a good passer. That's a nice luxury to have out of a big, but when it's what he hangs his hat on, no thanks.
I never said they DID! I only pointed out that Petrie is (was) a fan of big men who could pass the ball. You know, Vlade, Webber, even Miller. Bigs who had game AND could pass the ball too. If all Monroe can do is pass, then the Kings should pass on him as well. Besides, Cousins is by all accounts going to be available at 5, and if so I dont see Petrie passing on Cousins just to get a big man that passes. Notice I prefaced the Monroe pick with the caveat that Petrie had to believe he would be a allstar caliber player AND that Petrie believes that Monroe's talents outweighed Cousin's physical ability and possible red flags. Petrie has shocked us before and could very well shock us again. I trust Petrie and I believe that whomever he selects will be a good player for the Kings.

And I am a big fan of the direction the team has been going. I think getting rid of Hawes was a good idea as he has probably already realized his potential. The Kings have certainly moved in a toughness direction that I think we all like. A blue collar team to fit the blue collar town they play in. I think Dalembert will fit that mold. He is a good defensive center who can actually guard the rim and play some goalie. Something the Kings haven't had in quite a while. If the Kings DO get Cousins, I think team toughness will go up significantly. Cousins, Thompson, and Landry is a pretty tough front line. And it would be a very tall front line as well. I guess we will see tomorrow what direction Petrie the genius is taking our ballclub.
 
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#33
Yeah, I agree 100%, but there's always hope that they like Cousins more. Either way I can't complain considering what a heart break it was on lottery night.
I was disappointed last year when they ended up with the 4th (and worst possible) pick after having the worst record the year before. But that turned out pretty good for the Kings after all! Evans was a great draft pick and I am sure that even the Clippers are thinking twice about their selection in that draft, I KNOW that OKC and Memphis are KICKING THEMSELVES! That is just another feather in Geoff Petrie's Draft Hat. I TRULY believe that Petrie will find a player that most fits the Kings Needs AND selects a player that will surprise other GM's by how good the player turns out to be. At #5 Petrie may be able to draft a potential future ALL Star player!

That is certainly Geoff's strongest talent as a General Manager. He has an incredible eye for young talent. I believe he is the best young talent evaluator in the NBA. And he seems to be able to project a player's potential accurately enough to avoid the pitfalls that other GM's fall into. Rubio was a TOTAL pitfall that Geoff was able to avoid. Now Geoff has an even BIGGER draft selection to make this year. If he hits a home run with this pick, the Kings could not only return to respectability, they could become a playoff team with the free agent money that they are amassing to spend. When the Kings are competitive again, Free Agents are more likely to want to come to Sacramento. I know the Kings will probably wait till after the new CBA is negotiated in order to make the most of the cap space they are making, but I know that Petrie and the Maloofs want to build a winner! I just want to see the Kings make it back to where they make the playoffs every year and contend with the western conference teams. I fell like those days are coming soon! GO KINGS!! Good LUCK GEOFF !!
 
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I never said they DID! I only pointed out that Petrie is (was) a fan of big men who could pass the ball. You know, Vlade, Webber, even Miller. Bigs who had game AND could pass the ball too. If all Monroe can do is pass, then the Kings should pass on him as well. Besides, Cousins is by all accounts going to be available at 5, and if so I dont see Petrie passing on Cousins just to get a big man that passes. Notice I prefaced the Monroe pick with the caveat that Petrie had to believe he would be a allstar caliber player AND that Petrie believes that Monroe's talents outweighed Cousin's physical ability and possible red flags. Petrie has shocked us before and could very well shock us again. I trust Petrie and I believe that whomever he selects will be a good player for the Kings.

And I am a big fan of the direction the team has been going. I think getting rid of Hawes was a good idea as he has probably already realized his potential. The Kings have certainly moved in a toughness direction that I think we all like. A blue collar team to fit the blue collar town they play in. I think Dalembert will fit that mold. He is a good defensive center who can actually guard the rim and play some goalie. Something the Kings haven't had in quite a while. If the Kings DO get Cousins, I think team toughness will go up significantly. Cousins, Thompson, and Landry is a pretty tough front line. And it would be a very tall front line as well. I guess we will see tomorrow what direction Petrie the genius is taking our ballclub.
No you didn't say we did, but you were glowing about his ability to fit into a Princeton style offense. What's the relevance of that or Petrie's infatuation with it when we don't play anything even resembling it anymore? That's my point, either we play the Princeton or those points are irrelevant to our actual situation.

He acquired those players when we actually had a system in place to take advantage of that skill. We do not have that kind of roster, or that kind of system now. It's a thing of the past. No big can become an all-star by being a great passer, they'd have to be great at rebounding, or defense, or scoring as well for them to ever become a multiple time all-star and a franchise player. No one is every going to honestly think of Brad Miller as a cornerstone player. Monroe's passing is the only ability that really grades out to be far above average for his position, and he won't be in position to facilitate on this team because Evans will dominate the ball.

I don't trust Petrie that much. I don't care about Petrie's draft history, drafting Monroe is a nonsensical move.
 
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I was disappointed last year when they ended up with the 4th (and worst possible) pick after having the worst record the year before. But that turned out pretty good for the Kings after all! Evans was a great draft pick and I am sure that even the Clippers are thinking twice about their selection in that draft, I KNOW that OKC and Memphis are KICKING THEMSELVES! That is just another feather in Geoff Petrie's Draft Hat. I TRULY believe that Petrie will find a player that most fits the Kings Needs AND selects a player that will surprise other GM's by how good the player turns out to be. At #5 Petrie may be able to draft a potential future ALL Star player!

That is certainly Geoff's strongest talent as a General Manager. He has an incredible eye for young talent. I believe he is the best young talent evaluator in the NBA. And he seems to be able to project a player's potential accurately enough to avoid the pitfalls that other GM's fall into. Rubio was a TOTAL pitfall that Geoff was able to avoid. Now Geoff has an even BIGGER draft selection to make this year. If he hits a home run with this pick, the Kings could not only return to respectability, they could become a playoff team with the free agent money that they are amassing to spend. When the Kings are competitive again, Free Agents are more likely to want to come to Sacramento. I know the Kings will probably wait till after the new CBA is negotiated in order to make the most of the cap space they are making, but I know that Petrie and the Maloofs want to build a winner! I just want to see the Kings make it back to where they make the playoffs every year and contend with the western conference teams. I fell like those days are coming soon! GO KINGS!! Good LUCK GEOFF !!
How can you call Rubio a pitfall? He hasn't even played in the NBA yet and people are already calling him a bust. From everything I read about the situation, Rubio totally would have come over to the NBA if he were drafted by the Kings.
 
#37
I think the more that they would be drafting Cousins if Al Jefferson is gone.

Did I see somebody wrote Cousins is a bigger and healthier version of Al Jefferson?:p
Its crazy what a knee injury and a contract will do for a player like Big Al. It's not that crazy to think he's a LEGIT top 3 pf behind Pau and Amare. It's hilarious that he is really being rumored in so many trades and the fact that we wouldn't be happy to take him on if there was no Cousins avaliable. The latest rumor with him going to the Grizz would make them INSTANTLY better as well.
 

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#39
The Kings don't play the Princeton anymore!!!!!

There's something wrong with a big if the best thing someone has to say about him is that he's a good passer. That's a nice luxury to have out of a big, but when it's what he hangs his hat on, no thanks.
Agreed. Hawes is a better passer than Monroe. It wouldn't make sense that they would draft a passing big man when they let a better passing big man go. Hawes is longer, a better passer, and at just as "tough" as Monroe. Taking Monroe would make no sense on so many different levels. I'm not that gung ho on Cousins, but I'd take a 13 year old in a 19 year old man's body over Monroe.
 
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Agreed. Hawes is a better passer than Monroe. It wouldn't make sense that they would draft a passing big man when they let a better passing big man go. Hawes is longer, a better passer, and at just as "tough" as Monroe. Taking Monroe would make no sense on so many different levels. I'm not that gung ho on Cousins, but I'd take a 13 year old in a 19 year old man's body over Monroe.
I don't know if he's a better passer, but I think he had a better touch around the basket and overall low post skills coming out of college than Monroe does.