The ONE AND ONLY Luka Doncic discussion thread
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At the end of the day we picked “fit“ with Fox/Bagley pairing....which you never do. Would the Blazers have been bummed out to have to trade Clyde Drexer? Or course not. They could have drafted jordan and cut Clyde and history would have been theirs. Right now, you offer Fox and Bagley to the mavs for luka and you get laughed out of the room. Hell, Cuban says no on draft night.
If I can go back in time and yank Brandon Williams out of the draft room that’s the first thing I’d do. As usual, this franchise overthinks everything and gets cute when the obvious answer was right the for the taking.
If I can go back in time and yank Brandon Williams out of the draft room that’s the first thing I’d do. As usual, this franchise overthinks everything and gets cute when the obvious answer was right the for the taking.
** Moved from the Kings vs Mavs Game Thread, as it is now locked**
I genuinely like you and I appreciate your contribution to this forum. I wish we had many more posters like you. But you are making it difficult to engage on anything that resembles criticism. And as a fellow fan I do wish to discuss criticism constructively.
Your answer merely confirms my reference to your deflecting approach: pointing out your comment was a "completely hypothetical situation", which is literally deflecting. I was not discussing hypothetical situations. I do not often engage in discussions regarding claims such as "just wait, player *insert name* will tear it up in a few years' time", simply because I have no idea what may or may not happen in the future.
I was trying to pick your brains on a factual event: On June 21 2018 the Kings passed on a talent that in all probabilities would have changed the course of the franchise. I am not in the "moaning" camp. I accept that Luka will most likely not wear a Kings' jersey any time soon.
My question to you is different: do you think that someone needs to be held accountable? Do you think that by holding people accountable the organisation sends a message that will make it better moving forward? Or perhaps you believe that labeling this as a "Kings" mistake, never mentioning it and moving on is a better course of action? Are you of the opinion that it is still too early to ask these questions?
Perhaps more fundamentally: do you agree that by reflecting on actions and decisions made in the past we can improve moving forward?
BTW - I have never called for the firing of any person in the organisation. The only people I was clear I wanted far away from the Sacramento Kings were the Maloofs (and even then I could not technically "fire" them). So unless you have evidence to the contrary, kindly refrain from labeling me "a moaner" or a "fire Vlade" supporter.
Please... this reads like an unnecessary snide.
Who is "y'all"? As far as I know my comment only represented my thoughts. I never argued anything on behalf of anyone else, let alone an unnamed (hypothetical?) group of people. Suggesting that anything in my post addressed to you was "too sensitive", and insinuating you somehow hold an intellectual cool-headed higher ground, is - quite frankly - merely deflecting.
I genuinely like you and I appreciate your contribution to this forum. I wish we had many more posters like you. But you are making it difficult to engage on anything that resembles criticism. And as a fellow fan I do wish to discuss criticism constructively.
Your answer merely confirms my reference to your deflecting approach: pointing out your comment was a "completely hypothetical situation", which is literally deflecting. I was not discussing hypothetical situations. I do not often engage in discussions regarding claims such as "just wait, player *insert name* will tear it up in a few years' time", simply because I have no idea what may or may not happen in the future.
I was trying to pick your brains on a factual event: On June 21 2018 the Kings passed on a talent that in all probabilities would have changed the course of the franchise. I am not in the "moaning" camp. I accept that Luka will most likely not wear a Kings' jersey any time soon.
My question to you is different: do you think that someone needs to be held accountable? Do you think that by holding people accountable the organisation sends a message that will make it better moving forward? Or perhaps you believe that labeling this as a "Kings" mistake, never mentioning it and moving on is a better course of action? Are you of the opinion that it is still too early to ask these questions?
Perhaps more fundamentally: do you agree that by reflecting on actions and decisions made in the past we can improve moving forward?
BTW - I have never called for the firing of any person in the organisation. The only people I was clear I wanted far away from the Sacramento Kings were the Maloofs (and even then I could not technically "fire" them). So unless you have evidence to the contrary, kindly refrain from labeling me "a moaner" or a "fire Vlade" supporter.
Please... this reads like an unnecessary snide.
Who is "y'all"? As far as I know my comment only represented my thoughts. I never argued anything on behalf of anyone else, let alone an unnamed (hypothetical?) group of people. Suggesting that anything in my post addressed to you was "too sensitive", and insinuating you somehow hold an intellectual cool-headed higher ground, is - quite frankly - merely deflecting.
Longing for Luka: Why Kings fans can’t move on from the Mavs star miss
By Sam Amick 3h ago
SACRAMENTO – Midway through last season, former Kings coach Dave Joerger was sitting courtside at the Golden 1 Center before a February home game when he decided to make light of a subject that was weighing heavily on the Kings’ long-struggling franchise.
This was pre-tipoff in the NBA, that time when hoops colleagues talk shop while players warm up and the crowd trickles in. And Joerger, the former Memphis Grizzlies coach who has been known to share his views on his team’s personnel in any setting, no matter who it might pee off, had an uncomfortable joke to share about the Dallas Mavericks’ Luka Doncic.
He had been chatting with a member of the Mavericks’ staff who was in town that day, and was seated near the general manager, Kings legend Vlade Divac, who was behind the choice to take big man Marvin Bagley III out of Duke with the No. 2 pick rather than the Slovenian sensation in Doncic. They were hardly alone on this front, as Phoenix took center...
https://theathletic.com/1541189/202...gs-fans-cant-move-on-from-the-mavs-star-miss/
By Sam Amick 3h ago
SACRAMENTO – Midway through last season, former Kings coach Dave Joerger was sitting courtside at the Golden 1 Center before a February home game when he decided to make light of a subject that was weighing heavily on the Kings’ long-struggling franchise.
This was pre-tipoff in the NBA, that time when hoops colleagues talk shop while players warm up and the crowd trickles in. And Joerger, the former Memphis Grizzlies coach who has been known to share his views on his team’s personnel in any setting, no matter who it might pee off, had an uncomfortable joke to share about the Dallas Mavericks’ Luka Doncic.
He had been chatting with a member of the Mavericks’ staff who was in town that day, and was seated near the general manager, Kings legend Vlade Divac, who was behind the choice to take big man Marvin Bagley III out of Duke with the No. 2 pick rather than the Slovenian sensation in Doncic. They were hardly alone on this front, as Phoenix took center...
https://theathletic.com/1541189/202...gs-fans-cant-move-on-from-the-mavs-star-miss/
The de facto what, now?
Rooting for players not on the Kings is one thing; a LOT of us have done that. But I think that, at the point at which you are rooting hard enough for a whole other team that you start intimating that there might - even hypothetically, even facetiously and in jest - be a need for that team to have a dedicated thread on KingsFans.com, it might be time to drop all pretenses, and just secede.
Rooting for players not on the Kings is one thing; a LOT of us have done that. But I think that, at the point at which you are rooting hard enough for a whole other team that you start intimating that there might - even hypothetically, even facetiously and in jest - be a need for that team to have a dedicated thread on KingsFans.com, it might be time to drop all pretenses, and just secede.
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