The Kings will finish with a _______ record
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Dime Dropper
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39-43. Not good enough to make POs but not bad enough to get a high pick. Right where the FO wants us, mediocrity.
Big Cuz 15
All-Star
20 W 62 L 
thats what we shoulda been shootin 4 last year.
thats what we shoulda been shootin 4 last year.
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Lafayette
Guest
40-42, seems high but the kes do have talent just need Theus to use it properly.
Circa_1985_Fan
All-Star
Yup, exactly...with Ron, Kevin and Mike, still...those 3 will get us a : 37-45 record.
Which ironically was the Kings(and Coach Theus) record our first season here in Sac. That should be mediocre enough for about the...10th pick in next year's draft.
*sigh*
If Theus gets them to 50 wins, we better renegotiate his contract!!
Here are the teams that finished behind us last year: Portland, Minnesota, Seattle, and Memphis. Memphis was way out of it. Portland will make the playoffs this year IMO. I think we will beat out Minny and Seattle. Not sure about Memphis.
The teams directly ahead of us last year: NO, Clippers, GS and Lakers. I don't think we can get past any of these teams except for the Clippers now that Brand has ruptured an achilles.
Even if Bibby and Miller revert to previous forms, I think our PF situation and our bench depth is a problem. Of course, Mikki Moore and Justin Williams will help but I don't think they make that much of a difference. The bench of Cisco and Salmons, while solid players, don't give us any scoring punch. Maybe Douby is the guy who can break out and SAR will help score down low along with Hawes.
Circa_1985_Fan
All-Star
I still say that we're a 37-45 team. I would have said we'd match last year's win total and win like 33 games, but now that Brand is out for the year, thats a few more wins for us against the Clip Joint. And we'll win a few others that we weren't supposed to win...so that leaves us right around a mediocre 37 wins...
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
About sums up the situation -- there are still 2 months left of the offseason, but its looks increasingly like another year of rooting for multiple in-season trades which may or may not materialize.
I will once again add my annual note that going 37-45 is completely asinine and a sign of absolute failure and lack of planning. That's right in the deadzone. No hope, and no draft pick to bring hope. Comparatively 27-55 is a far better mark. It can actually get you somewhere (via the draft).
Circa_1985_Fan
All-Star
I agree with ya Brick...but unfortunately that's what we're going to be stuck with...especially with Ron and Mike still on the team...along with some young energy that we have with Kevin and Cisco. They want to win, so even with the obvious lack of talent, depth and fortitude that we have, we'll still get 37 wins and the 10th pick in next year's draft, once again. Welcome back to Siberia.
Ms.Williams
G-League
IM With You On that One
PurpleHaze
All-Star
The Kings (and Reggie Theus') first year in Sac they were 37-45 which made the playoffs. Maybe the same record this season? I'll give them a couple more wins at the expense of the sinking Clippers. Make it 39-43 at this point assuming no more big roster changes, devastating injuries, etc.
Padrino
All-Star
indeed. been with ya on that for a while now...
very sad to see so little foresight and forward thinking from the kings front office...
but depending on how successful reggie theus is as a head coach, it could be a bit better or a bit worse this season. i have trouble imagining theus failing on a musselman scale. that guy had no idea what he was doing with the kings roster. granted, its a mess of a roster, but a competent coach can squeeze more out of bibby and miller than musselman got. if that's the case with reggie, and excluding any possible mid-season trades, we're lookin' at maybe 40 wins. maybe 42 or 43 in an absolute best-case-scenario. if theus doesn't transition well to the nba, and loses his players the way musselman did, then we're lookin' at maybe 35 wins. maybe 32 or 33 in a worst case scenario. and, in my opinion, the worst case scenario happens to be the actual best case scenario, because it yields a better draft pick. with a mid-season trade or two, the outlook could change completely.
Entity
Hall of Famer
I think last was aweful in 4 ways.
1. poorly coached
2. Bibby's injury
3. Miller's injury
4. No depth behind Miller's injury
If Bibby and Miller stay healthy that about 5-10 more wins right there because of fg% alone from each. If Theus can restore a chemistry and have better game planning or come up with a winning combination of defense and offense and get the guys to go with the concept. All in all better coaching gets us another 5-10 more wins. adding depth in the frontcourt via Moore, Hawes and Williams along with the athletic abilty Williams and Moore gives us much improvement in the frontcourt which gives us a few more victories. so given that and us getting 33 victories last year with the last 7 losses looking to be on purpose i see no reason why we can't get over 40 wins. That being said this has to be a year long effort. Once again we are not bad enough to get a great pick and we are not good enough to get a championship. I say 40 to 45 wins and a good chance at the playoffs.
1. poorly coached
2. Bibby's injury
3. Miller's injury
4. No depth behind Miller's injury
If Bibby and Miller stay healthy that about 5-10 more wins right there because of fg% alone from each. If Theus can restore a chemistry and have better game planning or come up with a winning combination of defense and offense and get the guys to go with the concept. All in all better coaching gets us another 5-10 more wins. adding depth in the frontcourt via Moore, Hawes and Williams along with the athletic abilty Williams and Moore gives us much improvement in the frontcourt which gives us a few more victories. so given that and us getting 33 victories last year with the last 7 losses looking to be on purpose i see no reason why we can't get over 40 wins. That being said this has to be a year long effort. Once again we are not bad enough to get a great pick and we are not good enough to get a championship. I say 40 to 45 wins and a good chance at the playoffs.
Gary
All-Star
If it's current players (meaning no players signed or traded) that starts the season I am predicting 24-29 wins.
K-Mart will continue to lead the way in scoring. 20-22ppg, 4rpg 2.5apg 45%fg 39%3pt
Garcia will impress us as Martin did last year. If Artest is on the team and Garcia plays backup than look for him to score about 12ppg 4.5rpg 2.5apg .75bpg 1.0spg. If Artest is gone, and Garcia starts look for him to have a season like this... 16ppg 6.0rpg 3.8apg 1.1bpg 1.5spg...
Bibby will rebound from a bad season, but still not be the same as before last season. But with Martin, Garcia, and Bibby all playing together look for Bibby's assists to go up, but points will go down.
Artest if here will be the ball hog he is, try to take over games when teamork would have been a better option... He will have the typical Artest year where people will be blinded by his stats, and wonder why our team sucks so much.
Miller will continue to get less and less minutes as Hawes emerges as our future center. Before the end of the year Miller will come off the bench behind Hawes after having his plantar facitas act up.
Hawes will be in the voting for ROY. Probally wont go to Hawes, but he will emerge as an up and coming center. He will hit jumpers, and play the post well. His defense will be questioned, but his heart, or desire will not be... I can see him putting up 12ppg 6rpg 2.5apg. He will start the season slow (probally 8ppg 4rpg 1.5apg for the first 30 or so games), but come on late in the year after getting a lot more minutes.
Theus will do well in his first year. He will coach the young players well, and give them the minutes they deserve. After a late season push w/ the youngsters after a horrible start he will keep his job.
Williams will be our solid big man off the bench. We might have a hard time keeping him signed after this year. He will be active on the defensive end and throughout the year he will keep his average about the same... 8ppg 7rpg 1.5bpg 1.0spg in about 20-25 minutes.
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Last year I was pretty much right on.. This year we will see!!!
Oh, as for KT, and SAR.. Yah, well, lets say before the end of the year tehre will be a lot of talk about buying one or both of them out. SAR will be easier to trade imo because he can still score in the post whihc is valuable, but he is the more damaged of the two.
Salmons will be Salmons.. He will be a decent bench player for us and spot starter but nothing more.
K-Mart will continue to lead the way in scoring. 20-22ppg, 4rpg 2.5apg 45%fg 39%3pt
Garcia will impress us as Martin did last year. If Artest is on the team and Garcia plays backup than look for him to score about 12ppg 4.5rpg 2.5apg .75bpg 1.0spg. If Artest is gone, and Garcia starts look for him to have a season like this... 16ppg 6.0rpg 3.8apg 1.1bpg 1.5spg...
Bibby will rebound from a bad season, but still not be the same as before last season. But with Martin, Garcia, and Bibby all playing together look for Bibby's assists to go up, but points will go down.
Artest if here will be the ball hog he is, try to take over games when teamork would have been a better option... He will have the typical Artest year where people will be blinded by his stats, and wonder why our team sucks so much.
Miller will continue to get less and less minutes as Hawes emerges as our future center. Before the end of the year Miller will come off the bench behind Hawes after having his plantar facitas act up.
Hawes will be in the voting for ROY. Probally wont go to Hawes, but he will emerge as an up and coming center. He will hit jumpers, and play the post well. His defense will be questioned, but his heart, or desire will not be... I can see him putting up 12ppg 6rpg 2.5apg. He will start the season slow (probally 8ppg 4rpg 1.5apg for the first 30 or so games), but come on late in the year after getting a lot more minutes.
Theus will do well in his first year. He will coach the young players well, and give them the minutes they deserve. After a late season push w/ the youngsters after a horrible start he will keep his job.
Williams will be our solid big man off the bench. We might have a hard time keeping him signed after this year. He will be active on the defensive end and throughout the year he will keep his average about the same... 8ppg 7rpg 1.5bpg 1.0spg in about 20-25 minutes.
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Last year I was pretty much right on.. This year we will see!!!Oh, as for KT, and SAR.. Yah, well, lets say before the end of the year tehre will be a lot of talk about buying one or both of them out. SAR will be easier to trade imo because he can still score in the post whihc is valuable, but he is the more damaged of the two.
Salmons will be Salmons.. He will be a decent bench player for us and spot starter but nothing more.
Evilmav2
G-League
If y'all don't trade anybody (particularly Artest) before the end of the Summer or the 07-08 trade deadline, I'd bet that y'alls Kings will play very, very near .500 basketball. That said, 42-40 would be my best bum nickel of a bet at y'alls record next season (again, assuming that you play out next year with your current roster left substantially intact)...
We don't even know who will be on the roster...
Oh well, totally meaningless though it is, I'm bored enough to post. I'll go with 42-40, since it comes with a wretched draft pick, no playoffs, and a front office which says, "Look, a winning season! The status quo is an amazing success!" That's my vision of "worst possible case," so when we actually win 37 I will tell myself that it could have been worse.
Let's repeat this poll shortly before Halloween.
Oh well, totally meaningless though it is, I'm bored enough to post. I'll go with 42-40, since it comes with a wretched draft pick, no playoffs, and a front office which says, "Look, a winning season! The status quo is an amazing success!" That's my vision of "worst possible case," so when we actually win 37 I will tell myself that it could have been worse.
Let's repeat this poll shortly before Halloween.
Evilmav2
G-League
Well, I'd guess that barring any trades (as I mentioned in my above post) or unfortunate team-bus-crushing bridge tragedies, odds would seem to at least favor the possibility of a few of the below listed fellas being around to play for Sacto next season...
My guess is right about 30 wins. I flipped a coin and went with the lower option in the poll.
Well, I'd guess that barring any trades (as I mentioned in my above post) or unfortunate team-bus-crushing bridge tragedies, odds would seem to at least favor the possibility of a few of the below listed fellas being around to play for Sacto next season...
Yes, probably those, plus Justin Williams, plus a couple of other cheap guys to bring us up to 15. Those might include Watkins and/or Caner-Medley, or there might be some vet bench PG hired, or some combination, or "other." And we have no idea how they'll be used. Will Justin get 3 minutes a game, or 20? Will KT start, or be 15th man, or somewhere in between? Questions like these would always be important, but when our roster makes no sense whatsoever, they become absolutely pivotal.
What makes you think we'll carry 15? If I recall, we carried 14 last year.
kingzzzfan4ever
G-League
I voted over 50 wins. I think this upcoming season will be a good one for the Kings. But to tell you guys the truth, you'll never know what this team will be like until they hit the court and play at least 10 games. Also, I think its too early to tell how many wins the Kings will net so early in the offseason; hopefully trades are looming.
I was leaning that way because there are still a couple of guys who played on our summer league team who seem worth signing, that could be had for $400k each. Or we could put them onto our DL team. Start a youth movement, something logical like that, which the fans would love...
But, you could be right, we might rescue some 28 year old scrub from having to play in Greece, instead. Or we could even hire nobody, and stay at 13. That would at least be consistent with our overall do-nothing strategy.
I guess I'm assuming that we could have some last-minute roster changes because I try to consider the front office innocent until proven guilty.
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