Average players aren't inconsistent. They're the epitome of consistent, they're just consistently average.
The Kings are a Deep Team
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CruzDude
Senior Member sharing a brew with bajaden
The Kings are, in effect, starting from scratch to build or find a "core" of players. So far they have Cuz, McLemore, IT and now maybe DWill. To find out who plays with whom better requires having 5 on the floor even to evaluate how one plays with another against several different teams. IMHO they are playing the analytics game with everyone and need a base of 4-6 games of set starting lineups to begin to see who better fits their long-range plan. It is quite likely that as many as 7 on the team now will not be on the team in a year and a bunch gone before then. I'll take the first odds that they are boogying with teams to get some 2014 1st round draft choices so they can pick who they, the new FO, wants. So no, they are not deep even tongue-in-cheek, other than deep in mediocrity as many have suggested.
Livinthedream
All-Star
If we want to play semantics with the word average, then you are correct. However, my point about consistency still stands. It's what costs us games and is what has caused our large rotation.
Chubbs
Starter
Alright. No biggie.
I'd still argue the premise that "it's not unusual to play 12" is in fact, wrong. 6 out of 16 games isn't even an every other night situation. It IS a bit unusual. I was flat wrong about the 10 man thing. But 12? Unusual.
Are you new here?
Of course I want to play semantics!
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KingMilz
Guest
Is this a troll thread? Imo only keepers on this team are Godsins, M16 and if Williams keeps playing like he has than him and IT everyone else can just go imo.
I'm really liking D-Will he can play 2 positions and can do a bit of everything with elite athletic ability I can see him in the long term plans.
I'm really liking D-Will he can play 2 positions and can do a bit of everything with elite athletic ability I can see him in the long term plans.
Whoa. Now that is an interesting graphic.Let's see how deep we are when the travel picks up.
Chubbs
Starter
Average players can be inconsistent. Average players don't have some variance in their numbers? All players do. Some stat guy could probably tell you just how inconsistent or consistent some of our guys are based on standard deviation from their averages. Being average or great doesn't have anything to do with whether the player is consistent. Two different things.
Not to get too far off topic, but heres an article on that subject. Even among superstars, there's a big difference in consistency. Kobe and iverson, for example, could have very very bad games, while durant Jordan and James have a much higher floor. Their bad games aren't as bad.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1850714-why-nba-superstar-performances-are-not-created-equal
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
The interesting thing of it is this rather bizarre factoid:
-- we are #30, dead last of all the NBA teams in miles we have had to travel thus far. We've played at home or close to home and common wisdom, including mine, was that if we didn't clean up during that stretch things were going to get real ugly the second half of the year when we ran out of home games.
-- HOWEVER, because the East has been so ****ing pathetic this season, the very last thing you want to do is be stuck playing all your games in the Western Conference. Accordingly we have ended up #1 in the entire NBA by strength of schedule. Nobody has played more winners than us, because we have played only 2 Least teams, and split the pair.
So now we'll see what happens. In any other year we've had the pansy schedule of all pansy schedules. We've had to prove nothing. But THIS year, any team that gets an East road trip automatically gets BETTER in the standings than they do staying close to home. We'll see if that holds even for the West dregs when we go East next week.
Well, we are only 1-2 against the eastern conference. On the other hand, one of those two losses was against one of the only four teams in the east that doesn't have a losing record.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
Let's see how deep we are when the travel picks up.
Thank you very much. This is interesting. I think we have also played the least number of games. I could be wrong about that but of the teams near the bottom (the Parker Sweepstakes group) we have played the least.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
I will almost, and I said "almost" because I don't want S£im correcting me
, bet that statistically the better players have the greatest variance in their scoring and using scoring as a measure of consistency, are the least consistent. The below average players or more likely to be consistently bad. The less than average sorts seldom have spectacular games.Yawn!
blackice
G-League
Deep with mediocre players...sure. Petrie left a huge stench here with his draft mishaps. Are people actually watching what kind of numbers Drummond is putting up without any legit offense? I mean good god could you imagine we could of solved one of our issues either at SF or PF/C along side to Cousins. Sigh. These last two drafts held us back that much longer, let's hope Pete gets an additional pick somehow in this draft just to keep stock piling youth and slowly trying to unload some of these players.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
Let's see how deep we are when the travel picks up.
Very interesting graphic. A picture says...
HereWeBoogie
Hall of Famer
Deep?
we have an Elite big man, a great 6th man, a Rookie with major upside and a decent rookie PG prospect. NOTHING ELSE
we have an Elite big man, a great 6th man, a Rookie with major upside and a decent rookie PG prospect. NOTHING ELSE
I see what you did there.
Section 101
All-Star
Let's see how deep we are when the travel picks up.
You realize the best teams are in the west? The Kings have played the hardest schedule to date. Going on the east coast makes games easier!
Padrino
All-Star
for a good team, sure. but i imagine that the occasional lengthy east coast road trip will still be tough on these kings...
Glenn
Hall of Famer
Young teams do poorly on the road. Didn't we have a season where we won one game on the road? Or was it none? Let us not pretend that we are a skilled team. As I wrote in a PM I have nothing to root for this year. I enjoy watching Williams and Ben play as they are a major part of the Kings' future if they blossom. For me, though, winning is the goal and there is no such thing as a moral victory that is simply us coming close but playing a decent game. I want wins. We won't have them this year.
Looking ahead to the draft and the hope we don't screw this up is the only thing that makes this season interesting. I know some people are really working hard to discourage us (me and like minded fans) from disussing having a poor season and some find the word "tank" repulsive. We aren't tanking. We are an awful team. Fortunately if we suck major league we may come out of the next draft with a potential Hall of Famer. Pooh pooh that idea as ridiculous, smirk at what I think some of these young players can do but in my world, if Williams and Ben become a long term solution at their position, we can come out of the next draft with 4/5ths of a starting lineup and a super sub coming off the bench.
This is the makings of a very good team. I find my desire to get the best player possible for next year just as exciting for me as some of you find these endless trade musings exciting for you. Let me enjoy this season for what it is and that is a stepping stone to a perpetual playoff team.
Looking ahead to the draft and the hope we don't screw this up is the only thing that makes this season interesting. I know some people are really working hard to discourage us (me and like minded fans) from disussing having a poor season and some find the word "tank" repulsive. We aren't tanking. We are an awful team. Fortunately if we suck major league we may come out of the next draft with a potential Hall of Famer. Pooh pooh that idea as ridiculous, smirk at what I think some of these young players can do but in my world, if Williams and Ben become a long term solution at their position, we can come out of the next draft with 4/5ths of a starting lineup and a super sub coming off the bench.
This is the makings of a very good team. I find my desire to get the best player possible for next year just as exciting for me as some of you find these endless trade musings exciting for you. Let me enjoy this season for what it is and that is a stepping stone to a perpetual playoff team.
whozit
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43 straight games ........
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