The Chick Flick Holocaust

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
PART I (will get to Parts 2 & 3 when I have time to type them up):

Well, to make a long story short, I lost a bet I did not intend to lose. The bet? From my side, if I lost I agreed that I would watch 30 chick flicks with a girl I am seeing -- one for every night of the month of November (although for all sorts of practical reasons that didn't mean one every night, but instead some nights watch none, others watch two, watch a bunch during weekends etc.). If she lost...well, this is a family site. :D

In any case, I'm generally a pretty good sport about chick flicks, have even been known to enjoy a good one more than some brain dead actioner (and like most guys who have gained wisdom with age realize that they are second to only horror flicks in inspiring snuggling ;) ). However, 30 in a month is a bit much. But I survived, and figure as long as I had to watch them all, somebody might as well benefit.

So without further ado, my ratings of the great Chick Flick Holocaust of 2004 (in the order they were watched):

1. Laws of Attraction (4) -- eh...not off to a very good start here. Think she thought I'd like it because it involved lawyers. But while Brosnan and Moore are pros, they had zero chemistry and a dumb, unbelievable script to work with.
2. Two Weeks Notice (5) -- now I know she was picking them because they involved lawyers. This time we try romantic comedy stalwarts Hugh Grant and Sandra Bullock. Grant was amusing, but everything else was flat.
3. One Fine Day (8) -- hmm...maybe the connection was that they are all set in NY rather than involving lawyers? Anyway, seen this one before. Liked it quite a bit. Excellent chemistry between Clooney and Pfeifer and fun and well paced. Also has a number of scenes shot just a hundred feet or so from my old office. Major drawback was the presence of one little brat in the film in desperate need of a spanking. Or maybe a beheading.
4. Truth About Cats and Dogs (7) -- hey, there you go girl! Two pretty good ones in a row. Had seen this before too. Janeane Garofalo does a nice job playing against type. Actually an adaptation of Cyrano de Bergerac I think.
5. The Wedding Planner (3) -- egads. Just when I had hope, she drops in JLo and Matthew McConaughey, NOT my favorite actors. Ignoring for a moment the utter immorality of the JLo character's actions, there is nothing here. No chemistry. No reason for being.
6. Autumn in New York (4) -- well, we interrupt our romantic comedy parade with a weeper. Problem is, I didn't care. Are these characters actually believable? How about likable?
7. My Best Friend's Wedding ( 5 ) -- I have a confession to make -- I am not much of a Julia Roberts fan. Unamerican, I know. And in this one she REALLY wasn't likable. Did appreciate the non-formulaic ending though, and Rupert Everett as her gay friend was definitely the highlight of the movie.
8. Message in a Bottle ( 5 ) -- oh boy, another weeper. This movie was slowwwww. I have always liked Robyn Wright Penn as an actress but teaming her with Mr. Charisma himself (Costner) is a cure for insomnia. However, falling asleep is against the rules of our bet, and I am trooper. ;) Paul Newman had a nice little part to add some life to the proceedings.

(Note: after three non-happy ending in a row, I began to wonder if there was a message in there or not, and bought her some flowers to cheer her up just in case.).

9. Dirty Dancing ( 6 ) -- whoa! Going retro. This is really a silly little movie, but I have to admit a soft spot for it since it was the favorite movie of the first serious GF I had in high school and she bought me a copy of it so that we could always watch it whenever she wanted to, her place or mine (Of course I did not mention that to current girl) In any case, never did understand what possessed Patrick Swayze to try to go play action hero when the only two successful movies he ever made were both essentially romances (DD + Ghost).
10. Ever After ( 9 ) -- yay! She rented this one on my advice. First saw it a few years back on an airplane, and was totally taken by surprise by it. Normally I find Drew Barrymore entirely disposable, and you would have had an extremely hard time convincing me that a remake of Cinderella would even remotely interest me. But I thought the movie really worked in a goofy feel good way, and Drew showed me something with a strong likable character. Girl liked it too -- think I scored some of those all-important sensitive and romantic points for suggesting it. ;)
 
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OMG Bricklayer you are so watching the wrong kind of chick flicks! Try watching some indie films-no one does decent chick flicks like independent filmmakers. I recommend, "Gas, Food, Lodging" , "Baghdad Cafe", and "Ruby in Paradise". All are excellent chick flicks that don't get sappy, sentimental or cliched at all unlike most studio chick flicks which drown in that crap or the anti-men stuff ("Thelma and Louise" for example).
 
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RoyalDiva said:
OMG Bricklayer you are so watching the wrong kind of chick flicks! Try watching some indie films-no one does decent chick flicks like independent filmmakers. I recommend, "Gas, Food, Lodging" , "Baghdad Cafe", and "Ruby in Paradise". All are excellent chick flicks that don't get sappy, sentimental or cliched at all unlike most studio chick flicks which drown in that crap or the anti-men stuff ("Thelma and Louise" for example).
While I agree that the titles you mentioned are good film, I'm not sure they qualify as "Chick Flicks" I think by defination a chick flick HAS to be a Major studio relseas bogged down in over top sentelisim, leading into the sapy and cliche. And although it's not required the presence of Meg Ryan, Sandra Bulloc, J Lo and Dylan Mc Dermot helps. There are lots of gret romantic films that in my book are not Chick Flicks. Heck I cant even remember an exgirl frined who liked Casablanca. but every one one of them loved Ghost!
 
HndsmCelt said:
While I agree that the titles you mentioned are good film, I'm not sure they qualify as "Chick Flicks" I think by defination a chick flick HAS to be a Major studio relseas bogged down in over top sentelisim, leading into the sapy and cliche. And although it's not required the presence of Meg Ryan, Sandra Bulloc, J Lo and Dylan Mc Dermot helps. There are lots of gret romantic films that in my book are not Chick Flicks. Heck I cant even remember an exgirl frined who liked Casablanca. but every one one of them loved Ghost!
I just think of a chick flick as any movie in which the main characters are women and the storyline revolves around women issues. Doesn't necessarily define a romantic flick-"Casablanca" and "Ghost" were male-dominated, for instance-the women characters were supporting as far as appearance and storyline.

P.S.- "Joy Luck Club" is another excellent film qualifying as a chick flick.
 
Part II

11. She's All That ( 4 ) -- egads, back to high school. Seen this one before. Features the single worst ugly duckling to swan makeover in history as the drop dead gorgeous Rachel Leigh Cook is transformed by...dum-dum-dum...removing her glasses! Wow. Sure NOBODY else would ever have noticed she was beautiful before that. :rolleyes: Also had an odd feeling while watching this -- for the first time I am getting just old enough that I am wondering whetehr its perverted for me to think a high school girl is hot. But I ain't THAT old, Ms. Cook is not really THAT young, and despite her utterably unbelievable character and flat performance she's still the only thing I take away from this one.
12. Drive Me Crazy ( 6 ) -- now we're into a high school kick I see. Scary thing is I just watched a romcom starring Sabrina the Teenage Witch, and actually kind of liked it. Not sure exactly why to tell you the truth, but I think it was because it showed considerably more depth and intelligence in setting up its characters and conflict than most. Seemed more mature.
13. Simply Irresistible ( 2 ) -- oh my goodness, it is the infamous magic crab movie! Caught part of this years ago, and had been warned away from the rest. I know this one must have been as a result of my telling her that I thought Buffy the Vampire Slayer was actually one of the best written TV series I had seen -- this was an early Sarah Michelle Gellar vehicle. But this movie...ugh. SMG was actually fairly winning in her role here, and her co-star had charisma. But the script was just embarrassing -- if you're going to rely on a magic crustacean as a major plot device you damn well better be a Disney cartoon.
14. Picture Perfect ( 4 ) -- oh great, now an early Jennifer Aniston vehicle. A movie so bland it has no reason to exist. Had to ask though, what the male lead could possibly have found attractive about Aniston's character? No I don't actually. But sometimes that isn't enough. Well, maybe in her case it is. Movie still sucked.
15. While You Were Sleeping ( 9 ) -- wow, out of the blue an old favorite just when I was getting really tired of this project. Fluffy and cute with some hilarious characters, and also probably the last true star performance Sandy B. ever turned in.
16. Hope Floats ( 4 ) -- and then just to illustrate my point, a later Sandra effort. Contrived and kind of aimless. Throws in an annoying kid as well.
17. What Women Want ( 6 ) -- not a pure romcom, and have seen it before. Has about 30 minutes of funny stuff in the middle surrounded by a lot of mediocrity. Goofy Gibson and dependable as always Hunt starring in her 1358th movie.
18. Runaway Bride ( 4) -- egads. Yet another totally forgettable and mediocre movie. I don't mind chick flicks, but jeesh, some of these things are absolutely 100% forgettable. What's with Gere trying to meld his traditional slimeball roles into romcoms? Ick. Anyway, sure somebody thought this was a good pairing years after Pretty Woman. But it did not work.
19. You've Got Mail ( 7 ) -- another re-pairing from a successful movie (this time Hanks and Ryan years after Sleepless in Seattle). But this one works a lot better and has some homey charm. Had seen it before and actually watched it on purpose -- solid and profesional if nothing great.
20. About a Boy ( 5 ) -- why do girls like this movie so much? Maybe just because of Grant? First time I saw it was in the theater with a female friend up in Boston. Solid, but weird. Not a romcom. Not really consistently funny enough to be a comedy. Not a drama. Some black humor I guess. But weirdness with a weird kid. Do kids ever actually act like that except in the movies??
 
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My mind is amped-out over this. There are several things that occur to me. First, think how much better-off you would have been to WIN the stupid bet! Secondly, what possesed you to risk such a horrible fate? I'll stick with just three thoughts. Did you consider a sanitary suicide rather than watching these unbelievably horrible movies. One more question. Would you have been allowed to watch a mental antidote such as "Saving Private Ryan" or "Good Fellas", say two weeks into the Chic Flick Holocaust?

I have made similar bets. I always win. Cough, cough.
 
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I'm sorry, but the mental image of our Bricklayer sitting on the couch, Kleenex in hand, watching 30 chick flicks leads me to only one conclusion:

He must REALLY care about the lady he's seeing.

;)
 
VF21 said:
I'm sorry, but the mental image of our Bricklayer sitting on the couch, Kleenex in hand, watching 30 chick flicks leads me to only one conclusion:

He must REALLY care about the lady he's seeing.

;)
Well lest we all forget, remember that she would normally sitting on the couch right next to me. There are always ulterior motives. ;)
 
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Bricklayer said:
Well lest we all forget, remember that she would normally sitting on the couch right next to me. There are always ulterior motives. ;)
Cuddling and comforting ("Beaches" and "Little Women" are good recommendations for that) opportunities abound! And bonus points as well if you shed a tear also.
 
I dunno. I might opt for a monastary rather than watching that stuff. I think a guy might actually die watching all those movies without a significant break. Next, you'll probably be telling us how wonderful Bette Midler is live on stage.

Brickie, you have no choice. You have to stop what you are doing immediately, and enlist in the United States Marines tomorrow.

The Metroman cometh!
 
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Now if Brickie next comes back on here talking about skipping through a meadow of daisies, then there might be a problem.
 
RoyalDiva said:
OMG Bricklayer you are so watching the wrong kind of chick flicks!
Ditto. I have only seen 6 out of the 20 listed-all which I have enjoyed :). But really, there are a lot of "chick flicks" that you are missing out on.
 
PART III

21. Sweet November ( 4 ) -- hint to filmmakers -- when you are trying to create a remotely believeable romance, you should probably try to create at least ONE likable character to start with, or at least give them a remotely believably reason for spending time together. Keanu was the jerk to be reformed. And Charlize Theron played the world's most annoying character to reform him. Did not believe for an instant he (or anyone) would put up with her long enough for the plot mechanics to kick in. I guess to its credit got better as it went along, and its ending scene was actually something approaching poetic.
22. Only You ( 3 ) -- Marisa Tomei, in a movie apparently written for her. From the date (1994) am guessing this must have been her attempt to cash in in the wake of her Oscar for My Cousin Vinny. Unfortunately it sucked. Her character was ridiculous and erratic, and Robert Downey Jr., although a fine actor, also felt scattered. All in all it felt like the plot was merely a cheap excuse to get nifty location shots around Italy.
23. When Harry Met Sally ( 6 ) -- ok, I admit it. I am biased against this movie. I LOATHE Billy Crystal movies. And it is simply inconcievable to me that any woman could be attracted to him. My best friend back in law school and I used to argue over this one -- it was her favorite film. Have to admit its well written, clever dialogue. A classic romcom. But Meg Ryan has to kiss Billy Crystal and not immediately break out in laughter, and that's just too big a leap of faith for me to believe.
24. Pretty Woman ( 8 ) -- well, guess its classic night. I mentioned before I'm not a huge Julia Roberts fan. But this was her big role, and she stuck this one. Unapologetic fairy tale that works + has tremendous chemistry between the leads to sell it.
25. Never Been Kissed ( 4 ) -- silly silly movie that depends on a variety of ludicrous elements and features a romance between a high school teacher and his student. :eek: The furor over Drew's story, the baseball stadium, all of the attempts to embarrass her character. Just amateurish.
26. American President ( 7 ) -- a combo romance/political statement, not sure this can be enjoyed by those on the other side of the political spectrum. Oh well, their loss. Needless to say, have seen it before. Intelligent movie. Romantic on a number of levels, but I would not have called it a chick flick. But hey, not my call and I did not mind.
27. Emma ( 7 ) -- I have an admission to make -- I have read all of Jane Austin's novels. More or less to impress a previous girl, but also as part of a self-improvement project from a while back (came to the conclusion I was really talking out of my *** when panning Austin books/movies given that I'd never read them). In any case, I have read "Emma". One of Austin's better ones actually. And this adaptation is ok. Unfortunately they cast Paltrow as Emma, which I found annoying since I find her to be a over-mannered and cold both as an actress and a person (although perhaps her shallow posing worked for this character, and she did a nice job with nuances and actual human emotion by the end), and they also misunderstood the Mr. Knightley character. Still, because its based on a book rather than a screenplay written by a hack, its considerably better than most romcoms. Still think Clueless (the modern day update of Emma) was more fun though.
28. The Cutting Edge ( 6 ) -- you know, by all rights I should hate this movie -- it combines every concievable cliche from two separate genres (romantic comedies and sports movies) and throws in ice skating. But I've seen it before, and I don't. Think the leads have very good chemistry (kind of a touchstone in these things) and they toss some great barbs back and forth as foreplay banter. Utterly fomulaic, but worked.
29. At First Sight ( 5 ) -- boo! Didn't exactly charge down the home stretch here. I'll give this one a little bit of credit for exploring some heavier themes than standard romances or tear jerkers, but it still felt heavy and slow.
30. Charade ( 7 ) -- she surprised me with this one -- didn't even know she was aware of movies older than 1985 or so. I never fail to be impressed when watching an old Audrey Hepburn movie just how ridiculously beautiful she was, so I was game for this one. Amusing banter between her and a guy old enough to be her father (Cary Grant, who must have been about 60 when he shot this).

I survived!! Think I deserve an award of some kind. I want a cookie!! :)
 
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I would say Congratulations, but I don't quite think that's appropriate... how about Condolences?

Now does she have to watch 30 war movies and action romps?
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I don't know what is sacrier the immage of Brick watching this drivvile orthe fact that I have been manipulated into watching almost every one of those films at some point in my romantic career... Oh well
[The Celt fades out with the the song "Things We Do For Love", by 10cc in the background]
 
Congratulations Brick!! No guy I know would have done that so she is only lucky girl. You cherish her....:)

I notice the list did not include 'Sleepless in Seattle', 'Sweet Home Alabama', 'Clueless', or 'A Walk to Remember' maybe next time when you lose another bet. :D
 
WOW, brick. i have to say even I've never seen some of those. and my guy is really good about watching "chick flicks" with me. ;) We rented Day after Tomorrow and Raising Helen this past week, I enjoyed both, he liked Day after. It's a much better way to do the whole watch what he/she wants thing... Not forced to watch so many at once...LOL
 
"[The Celt fades out with the the song "Things We Do For Love", by 10cc in the background]"

I used to love this song..when I was in jr. high! :o
 
I suspect that long-term testosterone therapy may be in order.


Whew, I just can't get past this. Am I the only guy here who has not seen any of these movies? Maybe a few, but my mind blanks out such horrible memories.
 
quick dog said:
I suspect that long-term testosterone therapy may be in order.


Whew, I just can't get past this. Am I the only guy here who has not seen any of these movies? Maybe a few, but my mind blanks out such horrible memories.
See QD, until you've seen them, how can you know whether you'd enjoy them or not? ;)

Watching them could turn you into a softer, gentler QD. With man-boobs. :D
 
Bricklayer said:
See QD, until you've seen them, how can you know whether you'd enjoy them or not? ;)

Watching them could turn you into a softer, gentler QD. With man-boobs. :D
Actually, I have walked into rooms where such movies were playing. I immediately felt a bit squimish and turned around. In every instance, I left the room immediately, went down to the garage and hit my left hand with a hammer. I felt better within a few minutes. Watching this stuff is really tough on the small bones of the left hand.
 
quick dog said:
Actually, I have walked into rooms where such movies were playing. I immediately felt a bit squimish and turned around. In every instance, I left the room immediately, went down to the garage and hit my left hand with a hammer. I felt better within a few minutes. Watching this stuff is really tough on the small bones of the left hand.
:D
Daamn! I'm a girl and I can't imagine watching most of those movies, or even wanting to watch them either! Brick, you get more homemade cookies from me, just send me your P.O box number and I'll forward your favorites within a couple of weeks (holidays make immediate delivery impossible :D )

But maybe that's just me, I don't much like Hollywood movies (especially those denoted as "chick flicks") but I do enjoy lots of Indy movies.

Cheers,
KK!
 
RoyalDiva said:
"Thelma and Louise" for example
I've never understood the vast number of people that consider T&L to be a "chick flick," or, heaven forbid, some sort of cinematic feminist anthem.

Maybe it has more to do with the type of chick I am (or, consider myself to be, at least) but I see nothing remotely empowering in a film about two women who ulitmately have to commit suicide to make up for the problems caused by their thoughtless pursuit of attention and a good roll in the hay.

Now, for my GoGo trademark disclaimers:
1) This post was not aimed at Royal Diva, just venting on the way many people see this film
2) I've always really liked the film -- strong performances, interesting story, young Brad Pitt, etc. -- but I have always seen it as being far more mysoginistic than anything else

 
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