The 2015 KF.com Draft Big Board Part 1: Hit The Lottery

Okafor will be 17+9 per 36 as a rookie and will likely have a 20+10 (maybe 19.8+9.8) season, before his rookie contract ends. Same career trajectory like, say, LMA, who was a second pick himself. A lot depends on where he lands: might be an all-star in his 3rd season in the East or wait in line on some West team, that can't get to POs due to youth.

Towns is a mystery. He has 9'1" reach and weak base, so he has to play PF first few seasons to be effective. He's a good passer and should be a good shooter rather early into his career, so he has something to fall back on, but he might be 12+9+2 per 36 as a rookie, and in need of overhauling his physique. He obviously unlikely to get longer, and strengthening of base and core is a rather lengthy process. It's not clear, where his scoring will come from outside of hustle points and making open outside shots. I doubt, he can post most of starting NBA PFs, working on his driving game is probably his best shot. Towns has footwork to execute quick moves around the basket, catching the ball in motion, as well. KAT is definitely very active guy, who will pick his share of FTs. Defensively he will hover around average, but foul prone early in his career. Career-wise, maybe someone like Elton Brand (former 1st pick BTW), who might give you 20+10 with some seasoning, but will likely lead you nowhere, if he's #1 option. Will provide good defense in his prime.

Russell is a darling, because of Curry doing so well right now. But Curry really improved, since coming into the league, so whoever drafts D-Lo will have to give him the reigns early on and be really patient. D-Lo doesn't really work as a sidekick to another strong ballhandler. Coming back to Steph, looser handles or slower release, and it's absolutely different player than Curry. Still Lillard is doing ok too, gunning for that designated max. After that there's not a lot of elite players with similar physical profile/playing style, who look like they are worthy of a top5 pick.

And looking back at Tyreke, people look at the end result and forget about bad coaching and ankle injuries - Evans was an outstanding prospect.

Looking around top picks feels like about average draft.
 
To be honest, I am not sure I want to win the lottery this year. The top 2 prospects are not great fits with our 2 best players in Cousins and Gay. I like Russell and I think he might be a good fit that could play both guard positions in time. But even with Russell, one of the other 2 has to go and we still need a reliable veteran at SG.

From the other prospects, the best fit is Willie Cauley Stein but can he be an instant impact player. Can he, with his frame, bang with other NBA big men for 82 games plus play offs? He is also a bit of a strange cat but a UK product that could really form a twin tower duo with Cousins.

I still favor trading the pick for an instant help veteran that can help get us to the play offs next season but if we really are keeping the pick, I would take WCS, locking away in a gym and get him to stack on some much needed muscle to bang with NBA big men. He also adds some real athleticism to the front line next to Cousins. He is the only one where I could see being a good fit for us. Still not a great defensive rebounder and doesn't give you much offensively but he is that defensive anchor that we really need next to Cousins.
 
To be honest, I am not sure I want to win the lottery this year. The top 2 prospects are not great fits with our 2 best players in Cousins and Gay.

Well, win the lottery is always a win!
If we get #1 or #2 draft pick, then we could try to have a deal/trade w some of the other teams, take a #3/4(maybe Russell) plus another future first round pick/another pick in the draft, or a role player/ some asset/ etc..
I think it's always better win the lottery :D
 
To be honest, I am not sure I want to win the lottery this year. The top 2 prospects are not great fits with our 2 best players in Cousins and Gay. I like Russell and I think he might be a good fit that could play both guard positions in time. But even with Russell, one of the other 2 has to go and we still need a reliable veteran at SG.

From the other prospects, the best fit is Willie Cauley Stein but can he be an instant impact player. Can he, with his frame, bang with other NBA big men for 82 games plus play offs? He is also a bit of a strange cat but a UK product that could really form a twin tower duo with Cousins.

I still favor trading the pick for an instant help veteran that can help get us to the play offs next season but if we really are keeping the pick, I would take WCS, locking away in a gym and get him to stack on some much needed muscle to bang with NBA big men. He also adds some real athleticism to the front line next to Cousins. He is the only one where I could see being a good fit for us. Still not a great defensive rebounder and doesn't give you much offensively but he is that defensive anchor that we really need next to Cousins.

I certainly agree on taking WCS if we remain at six, or even drop to seven, assuming he's still available, and I think he will be. But I disagree with Gilles a bit on Towns. There were some games where he dominated in the post. Not enough of them to wave a flag about, but it showed the potential of a player that was totally raw in the post at the beginning of the year, and the growth that occurred during the year. To think he won't be able to post up many NBA PF's is quite a statement. Towns, when last measured at Kentucky's pro day, measured out just a smidge under 7 foot. Fact is, he'll be taller than just about all the PF's in the league, save a few. I'd just love to see Paul Milsap try and guard Towns one on one in the post. I'll take the matchup every day of the week.

Plus, Towns, is an above average athlete. He's not in WCS's rare air, but few are. He's dripping with potential, just like Cousins was when he came out of Kentucky. In hindsight, would you have traded our Cousins pick for an experienced veteran? No, not now you wouldn't, and perhaps you wouldn't have then either. But some would have. Yeah, I know, Cousins is the exception. But how do you know Towns isn't an exception as well. It's been a four year journey for Cousins to get where he is right now, but the trip has certainly been worth it. I realize the odds are against us getting Towns, but if we get lucky, I certainly hope we don't trade the pick.
 
Height is not particularly relevant, well, certainly not close to standing reach. And Towns at 9'1" is only decent for a C and very good for NBA PF.
When guys like Octavius Ellis or Bonzie Colson are able to plant themselves and not give in a single inch to KAT, that's not particularly impressive. Maybe he just doesn't know, how to leverage his body to move the opponent yet, maybe he never worked on his core/base, so basic NBA strength program will improve him massively. These are the questions, that a team can get access to, while common NBA fans can't.
He still makes a lot of impressive plays, so he's a good #1 pick. I just don't believe, that he can develop dominant offensive game or become a massive presence defensively.
 
Height is not particularly relevant, well, certainly not close to standing reach. And Towns at 9'1" is only decent for a C and very good for NBA PF.
When guys like Octavius Ellis or Bonzie Colson are able to plant themselves and not give in a single inch to KAT, that's not particularly impressive. Maybe he just doesn't know, how to leverage his body to move the opponent yet, maybe he never worked on his core/base, so basic NBA strength program will improve him massively. These are the questions, that a team can get access to, while common NBA fans can't.
He still makes a lot of impressive plays, so he's a good #1 pick. I just don't believe, that he can develop dominant offensive game or become a massive presence defensively.

We'll see what his standing reach is shortly at the combine. You took the one from Kentucky's pro day which was 9'1" However, at the Nike summit, and at the Jordan brand classic, his standing reach was an impressive 9'5". So we'll see. What disturbs me about some of your comments about Towns is that you almost paint him as a player that might make it in the NBA, when he's been touted by almost every scout as the number one pick in the draft. Of course that's up to whomever is picking. You criticize his post game, and I admit that its a work in progress, but he scored almost all of his points in the paint, so he's not inept. Here's what one NBA person had to say about him.

"It's apropos for his being in Lexington -- you drive past Keeneland," another veteran personnel man said, referring to the famous race track and horse sale facility. "He's like (Kentucky's) best two-year old. He's way developing. What he is today, he's going to be a lot better than that tomorrow. He has Kentucky Derby written all over his face. Some of them get there, and some of them don't. He's good. If you get in a room with him, he'll own him. You go to interview him, he'll own you. He has a ton of personality."

And pro scouts believe that Towns has a lot more offensive potential than he displayed at Kentucky, where he only attempted eight 3-pointers last season.

"Cal helped his game but there are also some aspects of his game that were hidden," one Western Conference executive said. "Those of us who know him know he can step out to the college three and make that shot. Cal didn't let him do that much."

It's probably irrelevant what I think of Towns because it's unlikely we'll get the chance to draft him. However there has been some criticism of his ability to defend, and that puzzles me. He played on a Kentucky team that ended the season as the best defensive team in college. And it should be pointed out that according to Basketball Reference.com, Towns, has the best defensive rating in the country. Not Cauley Stein, but Towns. Now to be fair, Cauley-Stein was asked to guard just about every position on the floor, and Towns only guarded Centers for the most part. My point is, he did a good job of guarding whomever he was asked to guard. I'm not much of a stats guy, but here are the offensive and defensive ratings along with the efficiency and usage rate of some of the top picks to compare.

Karl Towns: Usg 23.9% - Efg% .588 - Ortg 126.8 - Drtg 78.1
Cauley-Stein: Usg 17.7% - Efg% .571 - Ortg 119.8 - Drtg 80.0
Jahlil Okafor: Usg 25.9% - Efg% .567 - Ortg 119.9 - Drtg 95.4
Justice Winslow: Usg 22.3% - Efg% .559 - Ortg 115.2 - Drtg 92.8
Stanley Johnson: Usg 26.4% - Efg% .468 - Ortg 111.1 - Drtg 87.6
Hollis-Jefferson: Usg 19.1% - Efg% .516 - Ortg 118.5 - Drtg 89.6
Frank Kaminsky: Usg 29.4% - Efg% .616 - Ortg 129.6 - Drtg 92.6
Sam Dekker: Usg 22.9% - Efg% .572 - Ortg 128.6 - Drtg 99.9
Myles Turner: Usg 25.0% - Efg% .508 - Ortg 112.6 - Drtg 86.3
D'Angelo Russell: Usg 30.6% - Efg% .540 - Ortg 115.7 - Drtg 94.5

When one looks at Kaminsky's stats, one wonders why he isn't projected higher in the draft. Age and lack of athleticism are the answer of course, but I suspect that he's going to be a very solid player.
 
Personal DRtg is a box score estimation. Given that KAT has better block and defensive rebound per minute rate, he should lead in this category.
 
Personal DRtg is a box score estimation. Given that KAT has better block and defensive rebound per minute rate, he should lead in this category.

As I said, stats on the surface alone, don't tell the whole story. However, if someone has the best boxscore in college, he must be doing something right. Look, I know you know what he can and can't do, but I want the fans that don't to know that he's a very good rim protector, and that's something we desperately need. Does he need to get stronger, especially his core strength? Yes! Is he Willie Cauley-Stein defending the pick and roll? No! but he's not bad, and should get better. There's a reason he's projected by most as the number one pick in the draft. Would I be happy if we only walk away from the draft with Willie Cauley-Stein? You bet!
 
As an afterthought, I wonder if people ever stop to think about how different it is to play defense in the post, as opposed to playing defense on the perimeter. On the perimeter you have to keep your man in front of you and you can't lay a hand on him. It's a combination of lateral quickness, strength to fight through picks, and instinct. Whereas in the post, its two sumo wrestlers banging on each other. It becomes more brute strength, timing, and again good instincts. So you can imagine how difficult it is for a seven footer to suddenly be on the perimeter trying to guard a smaller, quicker player. For the most part, he's out of his element, and unless he's unusually gifted, he becomes a foul magnet or a matador. I can assure you, that Shaq, a good defender in the post, did everything possible to avoid defending on the perimeter. This is what makes Willie Cauley-Stein so special.
 
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