Summer League Game 4 Quick and Ugly Grades

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1
Omri ( C ) -- started off ok as about the only King doing anything for the first few minutes. Began with a post again, made a nice dropoff pass to Cousins, which was a welcome change, but Boobie blew the assist enroute to an awful first half. Returned with Donte struggling bigtime, but Omri struggled just as badly, was not helping on the glass, and could get nothing going himself but an open dunk. Handle looked shaky for much of the afternoon and was a bad defensie match for the hyper-athletic DeRozan/Weems duo tailor made for breezy summer ball. Did better late, at least offensively. Had a tipin on the break. Came on a bit as we came back in the 4th, bit a bad pass turnover inside the 2:00 mark helped finish us
Whiteside ( B- ) -- the shotblocking was back and a better outing than the last two games. But there was a lack of substance again that kept this from being an impact performance. Had a big early block on the break, two more blocks on Dorsey on one possesson, and showed a few more tanatalizing glimpses of offense in the 2nd. But also continued to struggle with physicality on the glass, and blocks aside, was often invisible on defense where he kept on losing contact with his men.
Cousins ( D+ ) -- oh boy. A red flag palooza. Well, maybe not red flag. Yellow flag perhaps. In any case everything that could go wrong, went wrong. All those things that have been going right, did not. First yellow flag was this -- faced with a Toronto summer league team built exactly opposite of its big league counterparrt of the last few years, full of defenders and shotblockers, Boogie was considerably disrupted. Blew a number if layups and finsihes early as our old friend Dorsey bothered him. The groundbound nature of his game was exposed as a Toronto team that had obviously been watching some tape sat on his moves and blocked 4 or 5 of his shots on help defense. Things got so bad that he missed his first 11 shots of the game. Now the positives were that he continued to contribute some nice passes (it tells you everything that you need to know about this game that he tied for the team lead in assists with 2), and he continued to chew up rebounds. Yellow flag #2 was htis though: the defense. First, as certain incredibly brilliant and handsome individuals predicted, Boogie's desire to play defense like a guard and try to run in front of people for charges acted like a foul magnet today as he managed to get a triple double...with fouls, and fouled out of a summer league game (not easy to do). Secondly, his issues as a shotblocker/defender were put on display as he tried to amp up his defense and impose himself, and instead only got himself deeper into foul trouble. And he had trouble even looming over 6'7"ish Joey Dorsey without going for the block and picking up another foul. It almost looks like he has a hard time getting around that big body of his when trying to block, and so he might get some ball, but the big body slams into the other guy first, and its a foul. After the disastrous first half picked things up a little in the third, albeit by basically retreating out to 20 feet from the hoop and draining some long uncontested jumpers. Started the 4th with a nice jump hook, and late in the period started to make another Boogie run that could have changed the feel of this grade considerably had he pulled out another victory. But he remained careless with his fouls, and fouled out before he could finish things up. Too often looked the big slouchy unhappy kid this time out, which I guess is the last yellow flag. On more of a green flag note, its always a good sign when your young center can clearly have a terrible game and still give you 16pts 12rebs in it.
Landesberg ( C ) -- might have been our best player for a few minutes in the early going, got to the hoop and had a clever little fake pass to free himself up for a drive. But completely disappeared thereafter, had troouble with the Toronto shotblocking (don't forget Jerry says shotblocking is overrated though folks!), wasn't getting back in transition D, and DeRozan lit him up. Added a dumb foul on a three point shooter in 4th. He can't say he didn't have an opportunity here with all our main guys struggling and Thompson out. He even got to audition as a big "PG' for a few minutes. Just didn't do much with it.
Sloan ( D ) -- has done everything possible to either make us regret signing him if we have, or convince us not to if we haven't. Which is to say has done absolutely nothing in summer league, and did not change that today. One solitary hoop, and nothing else. Rice was better, and he was gunning like an idiot. Bobby Brown was better on the Raptors' squad, and we all have seen that he is a marginal NBA guy. Don't think Sloan knows how to make an impact as a PG.

Greene ( C+ ) -- came in and struggled badly, as he and Cousins' early probelms both typified our problems, and explained them (really our two main guys and were a collective 0-16 at one point). Threw a baseline inbounds pass directly to a Raptor for the layup, nearly airballed a three, blew two easy shots on break, was 0-6 and running into the wall of shotblockers whenever he went inside. Then finally scored on an amazing whirling flip layup +1. Came in in the second and immediately hit a shot. Canned a big three in the early 4th, but never could establish any offensive rhythm and followed it with several more misses on key shots we needed to open a lead. Stuck with things though, and if nothing else you would have to give him credit for most persistent effort in the face of adversity. Made a difference with some shotblocks in the 4th. Drained a 30 foot three at the 40 second mark to cut the deficit back to three, but that was it..
Chism ( B ) -- wasn't doing much eitehr in the early going, and then got hurt and sat out the rest of the half. Back after half and returned to more of his normal solid output. Had a strong rebound in traffic. Got infected by the teamwide blown layup syndrome in the third, but kept getting the boards back and eventually scored. Got into it with Dorsey too, eventually picking up double technicals. Hit a deep corner 2 inside the 1 mintue mark. Nothing enormous, but solid again and stood out for not struggling too badly.
Atchley ( INC ) -- let's just say we aren't going to be seeing him in training camp. Missed long jumpers and provided no relief at all for our beleagured bigs.
Rice ( C+ ) -- came in just to give us some life, had a nifty behind the back pass to Greene, hit a nice litte floater. Just dumb gunning in the third as he and Bobby Brown decided to give us a display of one on one midget gunner guard play. Scrambled for a few steals at least, and was our best PG of the day, which is saying pretty much nothing.
Cummard ( INC ) -- I did not even know he was on the team, and based onn these minutes I am still not sure. I think thrown in there in desperation early wiht no other guards (think he's a SG) doing muhc of anything, and Thompson hurt. Didn't get anything accomplished.
Christmas ( C ) -- was in later in the game. Hit his only shot, but joined the defensive issues of the rest of our guard line.
 
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#2
Cousins was PO'd and frustrated the entire game and his motor was very inconsistent as a result. This is something he needs to improve on as well.
 
#3
I was there today and to Cousins credit he had really every right to complain about these calls that he was given in my eyes of the 10 fouls he had maybe 5 of them were legit fouls.the Raptors flopped alot in this game trust me
 
#6
Bad calls but kept cool

No, most of them were pretty legit.
I was actually impressed that he kept his cool with all the bad calls. Why bad calls? guys ran straight into him and he gets the foul. He gets pushed in the back all day long by Dorsey and no call. I'm surprised he didn't act up and get technicals.
 
#7
I was actually impressed that he kept his cool with all the bad calls. Why bad calls? guys ran straight into him and he gets the foul. He gets pushed in the back all day long by Dorsey and no call. I'm surprised he didn't act up and get technicals.
No the blocking call was definitely on him. He was leaning into him.
 
#9
Whiteside is so freaking fragile. I see no why he slipped. NBA is a man's league. He's got to put on some muscle. Greene is a stud if he can just stop over dribbling again!. Geez just rise and shoot. No one can block a jumpshot by 6'11" guy. Just ask Durant. Whiteside try to fake and spin around and gets blocked. Same problem. Just rise and shoot. He's got the highest reach on the whole court. These kids need to get some BB IQ. Without Cousins, we would have gotten killed because of rebounds. You can see how we're exposed on physicality. We're tall but too weak inside. Our guards cannot guard my gramma. They better get these guys to pump some iron this summer.
 
#10
Whiteside showed a nice stroke on a couple of turn around jumpers. I was more impressed with Hassan in this game though he does look like he's just standing there most of the time waiting for the play to come near him; kind of like a robot with a proximity sensor.

Thought Cousins played pretty well all things considered one thing he definitely should not do is try to put the ball on the floor when he's struggling; he can't blow by people like Tyreke so he shouldn't bother. When the shots arn't falling get down low draw the double and show us that passing skill.

i really like Omri but i sometimes wonder if he looks up before he passes or just throws first and hopes someone was there!
 
#11
Thought Cousins played pretty well all things considered one thing he definitely should not do is try to put the ball on the floor when he's struggling; he can't blow by people like Tyreke so he shouldn't bother. When the shots arn't falling get down low draw the double and show us that passing skill.
Agreed. But what's encouraging is that it didn't take a week for him to get that concept -- it didn't even take him another game to understand it. It took him just one half of a game to remember what got him there and to go back down and get himself some much better shots or to create for others when his shot wasn't there. We'll have to see if the concept sticks tomorrow, but based on how smart he's shown himself to be for the most part this week, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and wager that he'll be resorting to fade aways a lot less.
 

CruzDude

Senior Member sharing a brew with bajaden
#12
Sitting directly behind Kings bench watching play closeup and 4 of those fouls were non-fouls. Two were even admitted to by other Kings.....they talked about it in the huddle and were heard clearly joking about them. Cousins was dead tired and could be excused from one bad game but Coach Elie kept him in there, I think to give him a taste of what the next level is all about.

When Cousins came to the bench after the last 2-3 fouls his head was down and was clearly bummed. BUT, he recovered quickly with encouragement fm Assnt. Coaches SAR and Truck each time. SAR has clearly taken DMC under his wing and quietly helped him each time.

We sat behind the Kings bench so my wife could finally hear the coach and player dialog first hand. With Coach Elie we sure smiled and laughed a lot with his loud and sometimes gruff approach but his never failing to provide positive feedback was apparent as well.

Fun game as Bajaden was sitting directly behind JT's parents and chatted with them the whole game and we all had a great chat after the game with the Maloof's (Momma included) and Mrs.Cousins, a really nice quiet lady who commented how well she thought the Kings were treating her son. I asked JT how his brother was doing after the nasty fall he had taken Wednesday night and said he is fine and will play in the final two games. Then we all vacated to the Hofbrauhaus across the street for a liter (or two) of German bier to cap the night.
 
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Im glad we saw a atrocious game outta our big man, it shows that big Cuz is still a 19 yr old rook who will get into tons of foul trouble as he comes along in his career. But had he not picked up that final foul I guarantee you he would of brought this game home. After a terrible 3 Q's his Jumper started getting buttery sweet at the end, add some FT's he was gonna finish that game out nicely bringing that one home. All things considered outta him he did prove he's gonna be a consistent rebounder for us and that's really what we need.

As for the rest of these guys they are not doing anything out there. I really wonder question what GP has think hes found in Sloan as I think Rice has out played him in every game this SL.
 
#14
We sat behind the Kings bench so my wife could finally hear the coach and player dialog first hand. With Coach Elie we sure smiled and laughed a lot with his loud and sometimes gruff approach but his never failing to provide positive feedback was apparent as well.

Fun game as Bajaden was sitting directly behind JT's parents and chatted with them the whole game and we all had a great chat after the game with the Makoof's (Momma included) and Mrs.Cousins, a really nice quiet lady who commented how well she thought the Kings were treating her son. I asked JT how his brother was doing after the nasty fall he had taken Wednesday night and said he is fine and will play in the final two games. Then we all vacated to the Hofbrauhaus across the street for a liter (or two) of German bier to cap the night.
Epic. I must go to Vegas!!
 
#15
Cousins was dead tired and could be excused from one bad game but Coach Elie kept him in there, I think to give him a taste of what the next level is all about.
At the end of Dime smack today:
http://dimemag.com/2010/07/miami-adds-another-piece-to-the-championship-puzzle/#more-49862

Not long after we mentioned on Dime’s Twitter page that Cousins is becoming a popular Rookie of the Year pick in the office, one of ours boys in Vegas wrote us, “I saw DeMarcus Cousins chillin at 3:30am in Vegas last night. Might want to factor that into your ROY prediction.”
Nothing but love for the guy but something was obviously off more then just his tape being watched. For my money he looked more beat then the 3rd game in 3 days on wed. I figured that they must have had a couple hard practices on their day off but maybe not.
 
#16
Cousins' lack of bounce was really evident in this game. Hopefully he will learn how to either avoid blocks with his nifty movies in the future OR simply become a better/quicker leaper himself.
 
#17
Sitting directly behind Kings bench watching play closeup and 4 of those fouls were non-fouls. Two were even admitted to by other Kings.....they talked about it in the huddle and were heard clearly joking about them. Cousins was dead tired and could be excused from one bad game but Coach Elie kept him in there, I think to give him a taste of what the next level is all about.

When Cousins came to the bench after the last 2-3 fouls his head was down and was clearly bummed. BUT, he recovered quickly with encouragement fm Assnt. Coaches SAR and Truck each time. SAR has clearly taken DMC under his wing and quietly helped him each time.

We sat behind the Kings bench so my wife could finally hear the coach and player dialog first hand. With Coach Elie we sure smiled and laughed a lot with his loud and sometimes gruff approach but his never failing to provide positive feedback was apparent as well.

Fun game as Bajaden was sitting directly behind JT's parents and chatted with them the whole game and we all had a great chat after the game with the Maloof's (Momma included) and Mrs.Cousins, a really nice quiet lady who commented how well she thought the Kings were treating her son. I asked JT how his brother was doing after the nasty fall he had taken Wednesday night and said he is fine and will play in the final two games. Then we all vacated to the Hofbrauhaus across the street for a liter (or two) of German bier to cap the night.
This is exactly the kind of reporting I need.
 
#18
Cousins' lack of bounce was really evident in this game. Hopefully he will learn how to either avoid blocks with his nifty movies in the future OR simply become a better/quicker leaper himself.

I think his lack of bounce was more from him being tired. He clearly couldn't get up on some easy putbacks, even very early in the game.
 
#19
Anyone know how tall Chris Bosh is?

Reason I ask is cause I was out at a Hollywood club last night and it was a pretty star-studed event. I saw Chris Bosh, Rampage Jackson, Too Short, Lamar Odom, and T.O. Chris Bosh looked HUGE! And if he's 6'11" I can only imagine how huge Donte looks. I also agree that he needs to just start rising up and shooting. No one is gonna block his shot at 6'11"-7'.
 
#20
Anyone know how tall Chris Bosh is?

Reason I ask is cause I was out at a Hollywood club last night and it was a pretty star-studed event. I saw Chris Bosh, Rampage Jackson, Too Short, Lamar Odom, and T.O. Chris Bosh looked HUGE! And if he's 6'11" I can only imagine how huge Donte looks. I also agree that he needs to just start rising up and shooting. No one is gonna block his shot at 6'11"-7'.
Bosh is listed at 6'10". Donte is taller than Durant, but Durant is much more skilled with a silky smooth jump shot. Donte is a very inconsistent shooter and can't really shoot off the dribble. If donte can become a deadeye shooter, he'll be a star.
 
#21
Thought Cousins played pretty well all things considered one thing he definitely should not do is try to put the ball on the floor when he's struggling; he can't blow by people like Tyreke so he shouldn't bother.
Yeah... just because he has done well as a helper for our SL PGs does not make him a PG, no 7' player is quick/fast enough for that. He's also not ready to play big minutes, 4 nights out of 5, yet. And he's not going to be able to do things in the NBA quite like he did in HS and college, even in SL the competition's tougher than he's used to.

Good to learn these lessons now, Cousins gets a sneak preview of the rookie wall.

I hope this gets our FO to realize that we don't have an amazing roster of undrafted guys this year. Chism's pretty decent (but leaving for Europe shortly), but we really need a combo guard, and, so far, those really aren't looking so hot. I sure hope that none of Sloan's contract was guaranteed.
 
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I think a D+ is a little low for Cousins, especially considering his final numbers. His passing looked really good again with a few being of the spectacular variety. I think he figured it out by the 4th, but couldn't shake the fouls (quite a few which were questionable). The main thing to watch for is how he plays tonight after a tough game.

Regarding his D. Yes, it needs work, but I did notice during the times he was on the bench, the Kings interior D opened up. He's a lane clogger and extremely skilled defensive rebounder. I don't like big men taking charges from guards as a first reaction. We'll see how the coaches work with him on holding ground and using his bulk and length rather than always trying to draw offensive fouls.
 
#26
Anyone know how tall Chris Bosh is?

Reason I ask is cause I was out at a Hollywood club last night and it was a pretty star-studed event. I saw Chris Bosh, Rampage Jackson, Too Short, Lamar Odom, and T.O. Chris Bosh looked HUGE! And if he's 6'11" I can only imagine how huge Donte looks. I also agree that he needs to just start rising up and shooting. No one is gonna block his shot at 6'11"-7'.
Bosh is 6'10.25 w/o shoes
 
#27
I was there too. Had a good time. Liked the Summer League atmosphere. Players sitting in the stands. A bunch of kids, just a very laid back casual few hours of b-ball. :)

As far as "Boogie". 19 years old, and ultra-super talented. Yes, his body language needs work, and his defense needs polish. That is why the Kings got him at #5. If those things were up to par, he would have been the #1 or #2 pick in the draft. After watching him play in person and way up close, he reminds me so much of a taller, bigger version of Chris Webber in so many ways. The jump shot, the passing, the emotion (even though Chris' motor was always high), DeMarcus' motor seems to be in neutral. In my opinion because he has not matured yet. But the skills are so there and I can not wait until DMC, Reke and the like mature into a playoff contender.

But if you have not been to Summer League, come check it out for a day "if" you are a basketball junkie.

P.S. John Wall is the sho-nuff truth. Already the fastest player in the league with the ball in his hands.
 
#28
Cousins ( D+ ) -- oh boy. A red flag palooza. Well, maybe not red flag. Yellow flag perhaps. In any case everything that could go wrong, went wrong. All those things that have been going right, did not. First yellow flag was this -- faced with a Toronto summer league team built exactly opposite of its big league counterparrt of the last few years, full of defenders and shotblockers, Boogie was considerably disrupted. Blew a number if layups and finsihes early as our old friend Dorsey bothered him. The groundbound nature of his game was exposed as a Toronto team that had obviously been watching some tape sat on his moves and blocked 4 or 5 of his shots on help defense. Things got so bad that he missed his first 11 shots of the game. Now the positives were that he continued to contribute some nice passes (it tells you everything that you need to know about this game that he tied for the team lead in assists with 2), and he continued to chew up rebounds. Yellow flag #2 was htis though: the defense. First, as certain incredibly brilliant and handsome individuals predicted, Boogie's desire to play defense like a guard and try to run in front of people for charges acted like a foul magnet today as he managed to get a triple double...with fouls, and fouled out of a summer league game (not easy to do). Secondly, his issues as a shotblocker/defender were put on display as he tried to amp up his defense and impose himself, and instead only got himself deeper into foul trouble. And he had trouble even looming over 6'7"ish Joey Dorsey without going for the block and picking up another foul. It almost looks like he has a hard time getting around that big body of his when trying to block, and so he might get some ball, but the big body slams into the other guy first, and its a foul. After the disastrous first half picked things up a little in the third, albeit by basically retreating out to 20 feet from the hoop and draining some long uncontested jumpers. Started the 4th with a nice jump hook, and late in the period started to make another Boogie run that could have changed the feel of this grade considerably had he pulled out another victory. But he remained careless with his fouls, and fouled out before he could finish things up. Too often looked the big slouchy unhappy kid this time out, which I guess is the last yellow flag. On more of a green flag note, its always a good sign when your young center can clearly have a terrible game and still give you 16pts 12rebs in it.
Pre-emptive note to Boogie and Boogie fans... Learn to love the low grade! It's definitely a good thing.

I'd agree with this one, too. I was thinking C-/D+ depending on how the game finished, and he fouled out so it couldn't go any higher. And while it was a little disappointing to see Cousins seem to get extra frustrated and not hustle on one or two occasions (maybe due to fatigue?), I love how he just kept playing his game, rebounding, passing and not forcing it. Seeing him respond to a bad game is about as nice as seeing him have another good one.