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coolhandluke
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Poetic justice. Who knows, maybe the puppy was trying to put him out of his misery!
BlingBling
Prospect
Putting an dog asleep with a needle is more humane then a .38-caliber revolver. Come on now, we don’t live in a third world country.JSin said:
JSin
Bench
Your going to stab the dog to death with a needle or also find some chemicals to inject in to him. How is it more humane... a shot to the head the dog is dead instantly, with chemicals, who knows... the dog could be suffering. Needless to say, it's not abuse, and if this guy couldn't afford the $40 to have a vet do it and decided to use a 3 cent bullet. Perfectly logical.BlingBling said:
Sad either way. I agree the difference in the amount of suffering is probably very small. I don't think I could bring myself to actually pull the trigger on a cute little puppy though. "Putting them to sleep" at an animal shelter sounds so sterile but the end result is the same.
I guess he should have listened to Bob Barker, "Spay or Neuter your animals."
I guess he should have listened to Bob Barker, "Spay or Neuter your animals."
C Diddy
Starter
My wife adopted a manchester terrier puppy for us a couple years back from Oroville animal shelter. Giving up an animal to an animal shelter is better then pointing a gun at its head while its in your arms.JSin said:
It doesn't sound like that guy even made an effort. I see people every once in a while with a box of puppies at the local grocery store or somewhere else and people come by all the time to take them home. Puppies are a hot commodity, especially at shelters. It's the older dogs that don't have a chance at adoption.
Shooting 3 puppies that could of got a home is absolutely heathenistic.
BlingBling
Prospect
I see what you are saying, but the Chemicals causes the animals heart to fully stop with in 10 seconds. There is a good reason why the death by fireing squads are banned and leather injections are not in the states. Plus I've seen dogs and people survive gun shot wounds to the head which means there is always room for error when using a fire arm.JSin said:
If money was his concerned this guy should have taken these dogs to the pound and state he found them versus firing a gun in public. Second he needs to have his dog spayed if he doesn’t want puppies.
It's common sense.
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JSin
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And then the brain will die in the next couple of minutes... that sounds humane.BlingBling said:
What was that good reason? Because people didn't want to see it, people equate blood with inhumane. The best way to die (speaking purely on chance of instant death with no pain) is having your head chopped off, I'd imagine a gunshot would be a close second.
Is it that this guy killed the dogs, would you be just as mad if he has given them a leathal injection, or how how he did it, you would be okay if he had given them a lethal injection?
coolhandluke
Starter
Ha. An old KT thread resurrected here!
C Diddy
Starter
Yes. I would be just as upset as if he gave them a lethal injection. Putting down an old injured animal is one thing and shooting a healthy puppy is another. The point that you are missing is that this guy did not even give the puppies a chance. He didn't take them to the shelter to have a "chance" at adoption. He gave the puppies a 0% chance to live. He held them in his arms, pulled out his gun and pulled the trigger. When you take an animal to the shelter, they get time to be adopted by the public before being put down. That chance, while still minimal, is still considerably better then a bullet to the head in the owners backyard. They aren't simply taken into a back room from the reception area and put to sleep.JSin said:
monk
G-League
Why not? Cattle are killed with a bullet to the head but that's somehow OK. I guess we only need to be humane to animals that we like.RoyalDiva said:
Bottom line is this: People get upset over the killing of puppies because they are cute, loyal, and people like to pretend that they have human characteristics.
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C Diddy
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I guess, to me, what it boils down to is the food aspect of the argument. A cow, chicken, pig is something that we farm for food and it is widely accepted that killing these for sustinance is ok. A puppy, like a kitten or a canary, is considered a pet, a loved one, and a friend. It isn't widely accepted to eat household pets or loved ones.monk said:
Also, shooting a cow in the head at the factory is "out of sight, out of mind" so to speak whereas killing a puppy in your backyard hits a bit more close to home.
I'd be interested to hear your stance on the story too, as opposed to just arguing my opinion with you.
monk
G-League
I've heard that argument before, which doesn't address it's inhamane-ness, which is the argument against shooting puppies. Inhumane should be inhumane, no matter what we do with the corpse. Eat it or bury it - an animal was shot in the head.C Diddy said:
I'm not calling you (or anyone else here) a hypocrite, but I am saying that your position is inconsistant. In my mind, one should be either against the unnecessary killing of all animals, or OK with the killing of any animal (as long as it's done as painlessly as possible). An animal is an animal and I don't think one should be given preferential tratment above others, whatever that standard should be.
And though your out-of-sight, out-of-mind point is honest and likely true, it's not right. If people are getting shot somewhere else, we still care, right?
And my take on the story...
It makes me sad that he had to kill the pups, but I have no problem with the way he did so. I also think it's kind of funny that he shot himself in the wrist doing so. Note that I'm not saying that the puppy shot him, as a puppy is a dumb animal and has no idea what a gun is and it was the mans responsibility to guard the trigger. I think "what adumbass" and I feel sorry for him that he not only shot himself, but he now has to deal with animal creulty charges. What a shmuck.
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JSin
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Umm, a person who knows something about how the body works. The brain doesn't have any pain receptors, thus it's impossible to feel pain in your brain.ILV said:
Fact is, not all puppies are adopted. By killing these 3 he made it possible for 3 others to be adopted. The hypocrisy is troubling, considering the man is being charged with cruelty to animals.
Thinking a dog is somehow "better" than a cow and thus its okay to shoot a cow in the head, but not a dog is like saying white people are better than black people and so its okay to use them for slavery. I mean, I don't have any black people in my family... they aren't "loved ones" to me, right?
I won't even get started on the "out of sight, out of mind" comment...
