So if ever we get the number 1 pick...
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Well, it's tough to say right now without seeing the rookies in workouts, but I think most people would say that it's Wall at #1 and Turner at #2 right now. I tend to think that the Kings would entertain offers for Wall and settle on Turner. If they could pick up some nice assests simply for giving up Wall for Turner they might just do that.
I think Turner would be an easy fit next to Evans in the backcourt. Wall and Evans would be a bit more complicated.
I think Turner would be an easy fit next to Evans in the backcourt. Wall and Evans would be a bit more complicated.
I got the #2 pick in the mock draft, and I am thinking about trading down, I am actually pretty much set on the idea. I am just having a hard time trading Turner. What do you think Circa, trade down for favors and try to squeeze something out else out of the team that drafted him? Hey maybe I could get rid of noc while I am at it........I hope
I wouldn't say that he dominated the ball. I would say that they didn't have anyone else that could handle the ball. It was sort of a default thing. He really didn't look for his own shot that much unless the team just couldn't muster up any offense. I would bet you that in the games he scored a lot of points, that most of them were scored in the second half. I think he is the perfect fit next to Evans.. I'm not really sure that Wall is. I could live with it though. Just get me any of the top four.
I don't know about that.. They are different players.. One uses brute strength, and the other athleticism. Can't say which has the higher ceiling, and watching both of them I wouldn't want to take a guess.. But I would take Cousins over Favors based on I think Cousins will be the better player down the road.
LMAO! cmon guys! you really think i would pick aldrich over the top 4??? wall, turner, cuz & favors?
there are plenty of posts on here that having me scratching my head. i wanted to see what kinda reaction i would get.
there are plenty of posts on here that having me scratching my head. i wanted to see what kinda reaction i would get.
I got the joke bud, just thought I would follow it up with one of my own, your too smart to have saidthat seriously!
If we get a top 2 pick, I'm personally against trading down. It's bad business unless you can really get an amazing offer. I understand the impulse to want to add a big man to the roster, it's clearly our greatest need. However, the NBA is a star driven league. It typically takes 2 superstars (or 1 and a 2nd star) to win it all and and you simply don't pass on the opportunity to add one.
The notion that you can't have two ball dominant players doesn't really fit the evidence. Superstars are typically best with the ball in their hands, but it works. Look at recent history:
The key was that these teams had role players who could shoot 3s and play effectively off the ball. You can't have a team where every player is at their best controlling the ball. However, it's hard for one player to dominate 48 minutes worth of possessions. You actually need 2 players who can dominate the basketball.
In our case, it's more of a weakness for Reke because of his lack of an jump shot. But he's 20 and that as well as his ability to move without the ball will increase. So if we have a chance to land a potential star in the draft, we take it, even if it's Wall or Turner.
The notion that you can't have two ball dominant players doesn't really fit the evidence. Superstars are typically best with the ball in their hands, but it works. Look at recent history:
- Jordan and Pippen won 6 championships. Both were ball dominant and 32% career 3 point shooters.
- Hakeem and Clyde were both ball dominant. Drexler shot a respectable 35% from downtown, but was not an off the ball 3 point shooter.
- The Lakers won 3* titles with Shaq and Kobe. Obviously both ball dominant.
- The Heat won with Wade and Shaq dominating the ball
- The Spurs were a quasi-exception as Ginobili was a very good 3 point shooter off the ball. However, Parker and Duncan coexisted just fine despite Parker's lack of a reliable jump shot.
- Even Kobe and Pau were two stars who were best when the offense ran through them
The key was that these teams had role players who could shoot 3s and play effectively off the ball. You can't have a team where every player is at their best controlling the ball. However, it's hard for one player to dominate 48 minutes worth of possessions. You actually need 2 players who can dominate the basketball.
In our case, it's more of a weakness for Reke because of his lack of an jump shot. But he's 20 and that as well as his ability to move without the ball will increase. So if we have a chance to land a potential star in the draft, we take it, even if it's Wall or Turner.
Well, perhaps not that much. In 2006, Chicago traded #2 (Aldridge) and a 2007 second rounder for Portland's #4 (Thomas) and Victor Khryapa. Yay.
In 1998, the #4 and #5 picks (Jamison and Carter) outright.
Also in 2006, Portland swapped the #7 (Foye) outright for the #6 (Roy), but that's a bit deeper than the 1-4 slots.
I'm not convinced there's much to be had. I suspect that if we do get the #1 pick, we'll take our favorite guy, if it's Wall or Turner or Cousins or Favors. Seems to be the M.O.
In 1998, the #4 and #5 picks (Jamison and Carter) outright.
Also in 2006, Portland swapped the #7 (Foye) outright for the #6 (Roy), but that's a bit deeper than the 1-4 slots.
I'm not convinced there's much to be had. I suspect that if we do get the #1 pick, we'll take our favorite guy, if it's Wall or Turner or Cousins or Favors. Seems to be the M.O.
