piksi said:I thought - we lost the game tonight
Mr. S£im Citrus said:Yeah, I have a question: will there ever be a time in Abdur-Rahim's career where he puts up big numbers... and it matters?
Mr. S£im Citrus said:Yeah, I have a question: will there ever be a time in Abdur-Rahim's career where he puts up big numbers... and it matters?
BigWaxer said:I was thinking the same thing Slim... When I get a chance I am going to look up some stats. It seems everytime SAR has a good game we lose. Not sure if thats reality or not just seems that way.
BigWaxer said:I was thinking the same thing Slim... When I get a chance I am going to look up some stats. It seems everytime SAR has a good game we lose. Not sure if thats reality or not just seems that way.
Bricklayer said:The overall stats on the season in games won/lost do not say he plays well we lose -- that's non the deal. Its closer to being even either way. Its more that Reef is just a guy who rarely matters to the outcome one way or the other. Win, loss, has no correlation to how Reef plays. He doesn't help you win. But he doesn't make you lose either.
bozzwell said:Dude, Reef's agent was looking for ya'. He wants to show you his gun rack.
Rome said:Reef played well tonight. He and Bibby were the only 2 that brought there games tonight.
BMiller52 said:Can we get the win next time?
Bricklayer said:The overall stats on the season in games won/lost do not say he plays well we lose -- that's not the deal. Its closer to being even either way. Its more that Reef is just a guy who rarely matters to the outcome one way or the other. Win, loss, has no correlation to how Reef plays. He doesn't help you win. But he doesn't make you lose either.
I only knock it if we're having an "any questions" thread about a largely irrelevant player (not tonight). Its like having "any questions" about Juwann Howard back in the day.nbrans said:Another (less cynical) way of looking of those stats is that when Reef gets time he's very consistent and doesn't take many shots -- so while he doesn't put the team on his back he doesn't kill the team with, ahem, 4-20 or 8-23 nights either. So the numbers end up looking mostly the same win or lose. Don't knock consistency.
Ryle said:I'm not a fan of Kenny Thomas at all and I'm real tired of seeing him when his short man's disease flairs up and he thinks he can go inside against guys that will simply, and easily, block his shot. Shareef is a far better player and needs to be starting.
Bricklayer said:I only knock it if we're having an "any questions" thread about a largely irrelevant player (not tonight). Its like having "any questions" about Juwann Howard back in the day.
And frankly Reef desperately needs a good 8-23 game now and again. Several of our so called "efficient" players do. Because that indicates aggression, desire, it makes other teams have to contend with you every time down court for fear you are going to light them up. A long long time ago when people beyond hardcore Reef fans still thought he mattered (W/L raises a question of whether he realy did, but that's another issue), while opposing coaches still cared whether he was on a team or not, Reef did not shoot 52%. He shot 46% or 47%, and he was FAR more potent player for it. "Efficiency" can be the greater part of irrelevance when its just a cover for passivity. Its nice, but incdredibly overrated when you talk about impact on a team. There are only a handful of truly efficient impact players -- people who can shoot 50+% while actually attacking. Shaq, Yao, Duncan. You can even argue (and the argument is made by some) that KG's 50%+ is a bit problematic and indicative of the lack of killer instinct he needs.
P.S. None of the above applies to the player who was oout there last night. That player attacked and mattered, and would have mattered even if he shot 5-12. Unfortunately that player has been seen perhaps half a dozen times total all season long, and may in agreater sense no longer exist.
Bricklayer said:Here are the two difficulties:
1) rebounding
amongst PFs per48:
KT -- 32nd of 143 (12.9/48)
Reef -- 120th of 143 (9.0/48)
2) shots
as in the beginning of the year we need that roleplayer in the starting lineup. Putting another primary scorer out there, and another post guy to boot, recreates the awkward struggle we had to start the year where everybody needs the ball.
Ryle said:I could care less about stats.....I just think Reef is a better overall player and should be on the floor longer than Kenny.
Warhawk said:I think this is the first time someone has suggested that they want to see a 52% shooter on the Kings get the ball more and shoot a horrible %.How about getting the ball more and still shooting 52%. That's what I'd like to see.... I think it would be more helpful to the teams' goal of winning games as well.
Are you playmaker0017?Wheeler03 said:Any questions?
Wheeler03 said:Any questions?