Sasha Watch 2022-2023
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macadocious
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That is weird.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
“no nba escape” does this mean no possibility at all or no escape without buyout?
Even considering that the Euro terms are reported to be post-tax he would make more on one year with the MLE than what is being reported for this new deal.
Earlier it was reported that the new buyout would be over the 800 and change that next year teams will be allowed to buy out, but that there was still a buyout. Would be stunned if he signed a no-buyout deal without getting NBA money.
looks like that report which was addended has him getting roasted.
This would mean that he has to pay approximately 700k out of his own pocket to buy out his contract.
and one year of the MLE will cover all three years of that deal taxes paid (despite only two remaining).
This would mean that he has to pay approximately 700k out of his own pocket to buy out his contract.
and one year of the MLE will cover all three years of that deal taxes paid (despite only two remaining).
serbiangoat
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Life in Greece is pretty damn good I guess plus I'm not sure if he's won a Euroleague title yet maybe he see's the next 3 years as him trying to win his first (or add onto a title) and than at 30 maybe coming over for a season or two.
This extension is a W-W for him. He's played great and deserves every penny. The added years also become a negotiation tactic where he can just tell the Kings, "either you pay me $$$, or I'll happily stay and be a star in Europe."
Money will talk. I haven't had a chance to look at the King's cap situation for next year yet, but if we're down to the MLEs, there's going to be a big difference if we have the non-tax payer mid level exception or not (the one we used to sign Monk)
Here's the differences between them:
Money will talk. I haven't had a chance to look at the King's cap situation for next year yet, but if we're down to the MLEs, there's going to be a big difference if we have the non-tax payer mid level exception or not (the one we used to sign Monk)
Here's the differences between them:
I don't see any way that we would have to restrict ourselves to the taxpayer MLE next season. We'll have something like $52M to play with under the tax level, and our only major free agent is Barnes. We could give Barnes $20M (seems like the high end of what he will command) and still have $32M. Assuming we sign Barnes, we won't have significant cap room for somebody else's free agent, so it will be small contracts (most on exceptions) or re-signing our own guys like TD and Lyles (which can't really budge us over $15M even in a crazy case). Budget $3-4M for a middle of the pack first rounder. We've still got plenty of room ($13M with these high estimates) for the full non-taxpayer MLE (about $10M). We're fine.
So if - and that's an "if" I can't speak to - Vezenkov is our priority next summer we have plenty to throw at him to coax him out of Europe and his current contract, at least from a financial point of view. We *can* do it. We may have other, higher priorities for our MLE, or maybe we don't value him enough to give him the full MLE, or hey, maybe somehow we make a series of trades that allow us to pick up a bunch of salary and change this equation. Maybe Sasha doesn't even want to play in the NBA for any money. But if money is no object, we are well-positioned to commit the money as it stands.
serbiangoat
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sactowndog
All-Star
So as well as Lyles is playing do we want Sasha?
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Why not both?
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
He can do a little of everything. Not sure we can find that type of production for the contract he is likely to get. He’s playing the best ball of his career and it doesn’t feel unsustainable.
Can Sasha flex at all to the wing? Or is he purely a movement 4?
Regardless, Trey Lyles as your small-ball 5 back-up to Domas and him being able to play with him at the 4 might be an answer for us going forward. I kind of expect we'll see that at some point, especially if we do get to playoff time and pair the rotation down to 8. I think it'd be Davion-Monk-Lyles off the bench with the starters
Regardless, Trey Lyles as your small-ball 5 back-up to Domas and him being able to play with him at the 4 might be an answer for us going forward. I kind of expect we'll see that at some point, especially if we do get to playoff time and pair the rotation down to 8. I think it'd be Davion-Monk-Lyles off the bench with the starters
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
He’s not Bjeli slow or anything but he’s a too little stiff on defense to stick on an NBA wing from what I’ve seen.
macadocious
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Pimpis Zajoba
G-League
I am 100% sure if you offered him 10/2 he will take it.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
I just wonder if he makes sense for us. Is he better than Lyles? Would we commit to Lyles as the back up 5? Is Sasha, Lyles, Monk and ? The answer on the bench?
ockingsfan
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His new contract (about $5 mil over 3 years, post income tax) is not as high as I thought it would be.
I think a 3 year deal starting at the MLE (about $27 mil/3 years) should be able to get him over to the Kings this summer. That could also leave room to re-sign Barnes too.
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SacTownKid
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If those shots he's taking translate? He kind of looks like Peja to me. If Lyles had a stroke like that he'd be on a max deal right now, haha. Translate is the key word there though lol. This dude is the wild card answer although he's looking like another player that gets most of his stuff off assisted baskets.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Let’s say it translates and it’s an either or with Lyles. Are you taking 41 percent from 3 with no defense and average rebounding or Lyles 35-37 percent with other stuff he brings?
KingsFanSince85
All-Star
Vezenkov and the Fox and the Ox. Three lefties in the same lineup. I can't imagine that's happened often.
Keegan is a lefty too just disguises it.
Hopefully can give him an MLE deal, BAE I think wasn't going to get it done last year, but he may not require the full MLE either. Maybe something around 8mpy, so like a 3/24 with an option in there? Even with taxes and the portion he has to pay out of the buyout, I think that will represent a pay bump but hopefully allow us to keep Lyles. I assume Metu is gone, Len is gone. Maybe we put Queta on a minimum since I don't think he will be 2-way eligible, as the break glass guy? Obviously the trade deadline will probably see some light shakeup with these guys, TD who probably won't be back unless Davion gets shipped. Holmes situation is also hopefully resolved.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
I regret to inform you that Sasha is at it yet again. Some nice passes from him in this clip package too along with some ridiculous threes with like three hands in his face.
also I don’t know if it’s a matter of Sasha not being able to create his own shot as much as it is Sasha just being such a good shooter with such a quick release that a pull up from the perimeter is a better possession for him than an iso drive.
also I don’t know if it’s a matter of Sasha not being able to create his own shot as much as it is Sasha just being such a good shooter with such a quick release that a pull up from the perimeter is a better possession for him than an iso drive.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
I'm taking the talent in Sasha all day.
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