Samuel Dalembert

#1
Ok, so since Ty Chandler is not available anymore, here is my proposal for an acquisition that fills most of our needs and doesn't involve anyone named KG. What do you guys think?

Philadelphia Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Samuel Dalembert
6-11 C from Seton Hall
7.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 0.4 apg in 26.7 minutes

Incoming

Francisco Garcia
6-7 SF from Louisville
5.6 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.4 apg in 19.3 minutes

Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
3.4 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.9 minutes

Vitaly Potapenko
6-10 C from Wright State
2.5 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 10.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: +4.2 ppg, -1.7 rpg, and +1.7 apg.

Sacramento Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Francisco Garcia
6-7 SF from Louisville
5.6 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.4 apg in 19.3 minutes

Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
3.4 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.9 minutes

Vitaly Potapenko
6-10 C from Wright State
2.5 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 10.6 minutes

Incoming

Samuel Dalembert
6-11 C from Seton Hall
7.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 0.4 apg in 26.7 minutes

Successful Scenario
Due to Philadelphia and Sacramento being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Philadelphia and Sacramento had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

We do it for obvious reasons. Fills most of our weaknesses without losing Brad. We can move Miller to the 4 spot where his lack of defense wouldn't be so noticeable with a shot blocker like Dalembert having his back.

Philly does it because they want to rebuild. They get rid of Dalembert's big contract, get two expiring deals and a young star in the making in the process.
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#2
As long as Philly has AI on the roster any hope of rebuilding is futile. Now if they DO manage to trade AI THEN you might be on to something.
 
#3
Ya if they truly are rebuilding then you are on to something. But I don't know if they want Garcia. They have Iguadola, Carney, and Korver. What they would need if they were to rebuild would be a C, PF, or PG probably.
 
#5
Ya if they truly are rebuilding then you are on to something. But I don't know if they want Garcia. They have Iguadola, Carney, and Korver. What they would need if they were to rebuild would be a C, PF, or PG probably.
Plus Bobby Jones, who should be a really good hustle player and defender.
 

Gary

All-Star
#6
If Philly is indeed rebuilding and have gotten rid of AI, I am sure they would want to use SD as part of the build.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#12
Not if they are looking to dump his contract. Thats what this deal is. Basically the same situation as Tyson Chandler, expiring and a young prospect.
They'll be able to get considerably more than that for Dalembert. Unlike Chciago, they have no uber-replacement for SD, and a young center would be a key part of any rebuild plan wheras a duplicative OG/SF (Iggy anyone?) would not.
 
#13
Yeah I don't get this trade idea at all. Dalembert is a gem. No appeal at all from Philly's perspective.

How about Bibby and Miller for Iverson and Dalambert? I don't know the salary figures, but that deal has obvious upsides for both teams.
 
#14
No chance in hell Philly would bite on that deal. They aren't ready to give up on Dalembert yet and sure as hell could get more for him than two garbage time players and one prospect. Besides, as much as I think Dalembert would bring things the team needs, his $90m contract is silly (and unwarranted) and it would be a terrible idea for the Kings to lock themselves in to something like that.
 
#16
No chance in hell Philly would bite on that deal. They aren't ready to give up on Dalembert yet and sure as hell could get more for him than two garbage time players and one prospect. Besides, as much as I think Dalembert would bring things the team needs, his $90m contract is silly (and unwarranted) and it would be a terrible idea for the Kings to lock themselves in to something like that.
His contract is around 60-64 million, it's basically Brad Miller money. That seems to be the number ever decent big man signs for these days.
 
#18
Dalembert was behind Hunter last year in the rotation for some reason, they might be more willing to trade him then we think
 
#19
Dalembert was behind Hunter last year in the rotation for some reason, they might be more willing to trade him then we think
They tried to get rid of Hunter.

Dalembert was coming off a quad injury, he was inconsistent, and as many like to point out, is foul prone, but he still played more minutes, started more games, and has the better overall numbers.
 
#20
Yeah I don't get this trade idea at all. Dalembert is a gem. No appeal at all from Philly's perspective.

How about Bibby and Miller for Iverson and Dalambert? I don't know the salary figures, but that deal has obvious upsides for both teams.

no no no no no no no no

Why would you want Iverson on your team? Now if the NBA was 1-1 basketball yes, but not when it's 5-5 :)
 
#21
His contract is around 60-64 million, it's basically Brad Miller money. That seems to be the number ever decent big man signs for these days.
Nevermind, you are right. He's one year in to a 6 yr/$58mil contract. Still too pricey, not nearly as bad as I thought though.
 
#22
no no no no no no no no

Why would you want Iverson on your team? Now if the NBA was 1-1 basketball yes, but not when it's 5-5 :)
I can't believe that is a serious question. Grant Napier got you brainwashed? Allen Iverson is a superstar who can fill it up, is mentally and physically tough, and can play defense. It's not as though our current PG is NOT a ballhog.

I love Allen Iverson's game. I don't mind having a shoot-first guy bringing the ball up. A rich man's Bobby Jackson!
 
R

Rome

Guest
#23
no no no no no no no no

Why would you want Iverson on your team? Now if the NBA was 1-1 basketball yes, but not when it's 5-5 :)
Wow. Do you even know how good iverson is? He averaged 33 ppg on 44% FG shooting while dishing out 7.4 assists. He's also #2 in FT attempts and #9 in steals. What more can ask?

This talk about him playing 1 on 1 is just plain and simply wrong.
 
#24
Wow. Do you even know how good iverson is? He averaged 33 ppg on 44% FG shooting while dishing out 7.4 assists. He's also #2 in FT attempts and #9 in steals. What more can ask?

This talk about him playing 1 on 1 is just plain and simply wrong.
And his team missed the playoffs because he and Webber took all the shots.
 
#25
Wow. Do you even know how good iverson is? He averaged 33 ppg on 44% FG shooting while dishing out 7.4 assists. He's also #2 in FT attempts and #9 in steals. What more can ask?

This talk about him playing 1 on 1 is just plain and simply wrong.
I love Iverson, love him. And maybe you were just talking about whether or not he's a good player to have overall.

But the only time Iverson had real success was when he had an entire group of selfless role players around him who really peaked (Aaron Mckie, Eric Snow, George Lynch) and a world-class coach. He ran off any potential star running mate like Stackhouse or Hughes. And even though he made the Finals one year, it was in the East and he hasn't gotten close since then...in the East.

So I don't know if he's the best guy to pair up with Artest, Bonzi and KMart.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#27
AIs not a fit much of anywhere.

The criticisms of him are overblown at times, but nonetheless ont he right track. The very things that make him great make him just about an impossible teammate for any teammate with offensive talent. he plays keepaway with the ball.

Now he might be able to go to a team like Chicago and win big, but that's precisely because Chicago is shaping up as a defensive minded squad of guys with few offensive players. But us? Not even close. A.I. is better than Bibby. But history has shown that because of his game nearly every other offensive player on our squad would take a step back and struggle.