Sammy Dalembert

[GoodOldDouwe]

Sam Amick(Sports Illustrated) just 'tweeted' something about Sammy D, saying we shouldn't give up hope losing him just yet;

sam_amick Sam Amick
For my Kings folks, don't give up on the idea of free agent center Samuel Dalembert returning just yet. I spoke with him today and he said..
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sam_amick Sam Amick
Dalembert: "Now, we (the Kings) have players with 1 yr more experience, knowing exactly what it takes, and I see the hope."
16 minutes ago

sam_amick Sam Amick
Dalembert said he likes the moves the Kings have made, most notably picking up former teammate John Salmons: "I see the future for them."

sam_amick Sam Amick
Of course it doesn't hurt that he's well aware the Kings have to spend some $18 million to reach minimum payroll by opening night.
15 minutes ago

sam_amick Sam Amick
As for Dalembert taking Miami's $5 mil midlevel (over 4 yrs), I told him I just don't see it happening, to which he said while laughing...
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sam_amick Sam Amick
Dalembert on my Miami skepticism: "Anybody ever tell you you’re too smart for your own good?" The answer, FWIW, is no.
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[=LarryLegend=]

nice, I was just about to add this. early in the year I think Dally was upset at his role on the Kings but towards the end he was fine and seemed to be enjoying himself.

 

[bajaden]

nice, I was just about to add this. early in the year I think Dally was upset at his role on the Kings but towards the end he was fine and seemed to be enjoying himself.

Yeah, I read those tweets as well. Certainly changes my feeling about his possible return.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

now I am wondering if its sign rookies, sign Thornton to 5year 32ish mil and Dally to around 5year 35..... then we would be around 17-18mil and use the rest on a waived player bid.

 

[KingsCitizen]

Wow! As much as I like Nene on this team. I'd take Dally back if continues to believe there is bright future for this team.

 

[rainmaker]

Good news. It's always hard to judge national stories given the agendas of various journalists. All I can say, is I hope Dally strongly considers the talent on this roster, flexibility to add pieces, and upwards trajectory we should be heading, and gives us a fair shake.

In the end, if he does that, and decides he'd rather play somewhere else, then the best to him. But I honestly think Sac is one of the best options for him, not only money wise but also in terms of the future excitement surrounding this team as it gets back to being a perennial playoff participant, as well as him being a great fit next to the best up and coming center in the league, where they can only grow together and develop a great chemistry.

 

[rainmaker]

now I am wondering if its sign rookies, sign Thornton to 5year 32ish mil and Dally to around 5year 35..... then we would be around 17-18mil and use the rest on a waived player bid.

Then use amnesty on Salmons, sign AK, and challenge for the 6th seed.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

Jason Jones tweeted AK47 wants to be a laker. Maloofs are poor...dont think they do it.

 

[KingsCitizen]

AK47 can't stand a season without an injury. He can't play till January with his latest injury in Russia. If Dally signs back, Prince would be better on this team than AK47. Tayshaun shoots better on the perimeter and has comparable defensive respect to AK47.

 

[ParniValjak]

nice, I was just about to add this. early in the year I think Dally was upset at his role on the Kings but towards the end he was fine and seemed to be enjoying himself.

This!

I have said many times before the lockout began, we are one of the best places for Dally to cash in on his last big contract.

He has chemistry with Cousins and was excellent in guarding PFs, rebounding and providing inside defence. We all love Cousins but it is very difficult to find a front court player that will cover his weaknesses. The player needs to be tall enough to play C and PF, he needs to be able to be athletic enough to guard PFs and not need shots to be effective. He also needs to be a good shot blocker because Cousins is not one. Long term Whiteside has tools to be that player but our time is now and Dalembert has shown that he can be that player despite having one of his worse seasons in terms of his offence.

I love what Cousins - Dalembert combo produced after the all star break last season (or specifically when Landry was traded and Dally's role became more clear).

Like I have mentioned a few times before the lockout if we can do the following in the off-season, I think we would have done a very good job:

- Re-sign Dalembert and Thorton
- Sign a veteran PG who is happy to be a 3rd PG on the roster but can step up and play 20 mpg if one of your first 3 options get injured. Someone that would provide veteran leadership, defence and some 3 PT shooting. My ideal candidate would be Earl Watson.

And if we REALLY want to have our cake and eat it too, sign Andrei Kirilenko to give us some flexibility at SF/PF. An ultimate glue guy who can guard the big SFs that Salmons can't (eg LeBron) but can also swing to PF on the type of "quick" PF that have caused Dally some grief in the past (eg West, Jamison etc..)

That would be a very deep team with all the areas covered (size, athleticism, scoring, passing, defence, shooting, rebounding, leadership etc) all that would be needed is to let it all simmer and gel together. It would be ridiculously well constructed team without breaking the bank thanks to rookie deals of Reke and Cousins

 

[whozit]

Then use amnesty on Salmons, sign AK, and challenge for the 6th seed.

sam_amick Sam Amick
Dalembert said he likes the moves the Kings have made, most notably picking up former teammate John Salmons: "I see the future for them."

One of these things doesn't seem to go with the other ...............................

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Good news, obviously.

I do wonder how interested the Kings still are in bringing Dalembert back. I always kind of viewed the Hickson trade as a Dalembert replacement because they thought he was gone aswell. Do I think they still want him back? yea .. do I think they are still willing to overspend for him like they would have been before trading for Hickson? I don't know.

Now, the fact that we HAVE to spend the money makes Dalembert returning make a lot of sense for both sides .. I hope it happens.

 

[Rug King]

I hope he signs with the Kings also. He's just what we need at this time and there's nobody available that's better and who would come here.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

One of these things doesn't seem to go with the other ...............................

It just seems that some people have fallen in love with the idea that we're going to amnesty Salmons. Mostly, it would seem, because they weren't happy with his play during his last stint here. Fair enough, to a point. But the cold hard reality is that we're not going to amnesty Salmons, or anybody else, this year. Maybe next year, but not this year.

 

[ESP47]

This makes me happy....I really hope Sammy returns.

If we go into this season with Cousins at C and Hickson at PF....the paint is going to be a revolving door for opposing offenses.

We need this guy to start and get close to 30minutes a game. His defense is awesome and he can cover the centers and power forwards that Cousins and Hickson can't. Not to mention he's an underrated passer.

I really hope we get to see the two towers again. With those guys starting, Hickson off the bench, Thorton continuing his success, Tyreke getting back on track and Jimmer contributing anything....we're going to have our first real exciting season in a long time as Kings fans.

 

[pshn80]

It just seems that some people have fallen in love with the idea that we're going to amnesty Salmons. Mostly, it would seem, because they weren't happy with his play during his last stint here. Fair enough, to a point. But the cold hard reality is that we're not going to amnesty Salmons, or anybody else, this year. Maybe next year, but not this year.

I tend to agree on amnesty and Salmons. I am interested in seeing how Salmons works at the three with Tyreke, Thornton, Cousins and Dalembert or Hickson. It might just work quite well. We are a different team now compared to Salmons' time.

 

[Kings Faithful]

I tend to agree on amnesty and Salmons. I am interested in seeing how Salmons works at the three with Tyreke, Thornton, Cousins and Dalembert or Hickson. It might just work quite well. We are a different team now compared to Salmons' time.

Sure, there is a possibility that it will work. However there is also a possibility that it will be disastrous and Salmons will be the same ball dominating player he's always been while playing 30 mins a night regardless of what he does on the court. To me that risk is to big... especially considering the SF's that are available through free agency. I think we would have been a much better team keeping Beno and making a run at one of the FA SF's...

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

It just seems that some people have fallen in love with the idea that we're going to amnesty Salmons. Mostly, it would seem, because they weren't happy with his play during his last stint here. Fair enough, to a point. But the cold hard reality is that we're not going to amnesty Salmons, or anybody else, this year. Maybe next year, but not this year.

People want to remember his first stint here, but back then we had no direction...Salmons, given direction, plays well within a system. I double doubt that we amnesty Mr Salmons.

 

[cuad]

Sure, there is a possibility that it will work. However there is also a possibility that it will be disastrous and Salmons will be the same ball dominating player he's always been while playing 30 mins a night regardless of what he does on the court. To me that risk is to big... especially considering the SF's that are available through free agency. I think we would have been a much better team keeping Beno and making a run at one of the FA SF's...

Salmons had no problem passing the ball around and giving up shots to Carlos Delfino and Brandon Jennings on the Bucks last year.

These Amick tweets are what we expected anyway.

 

[Kings Faithful]

Salmons had no problem passing the ball around and giving up shots to Carlos Delfino and Brandon Jennings on the Bucks last year.

These Amick tweets are what we expected anyway.

Which is why I'll give him a shot. He isn't required to be the man like he was a few years ago. But if he looks anything like I think he is going to, he better GTFO.

 

[kingsboi]

Sammy is a goner IMO. I am pretty sure he's willing to take a pay cut too just for the simple fact that he will get to live in South Beach. Quite frankly, if he doesn't want to be here, let him go. I want players that want to play for a young rebuilding team.

 

[gunks]

Please Jeebus grant us a Sammy D return. Amen.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Sammy is a goner IMO. I am pretty sure he's willing to take a pay cut too just for the simple fact that he will get to live in South Beach. Quite frankly, if he doesn't want to be here, let him go. I want players that want to play for a young rebuilding team.

totally agree. i think he was a goner as soon as we swapped casspi for hickson

 

[Hoovtrain]

Sure, there is a possibility that it will work. However there is also a possibility that it will be disastrous and Salmons will be the same ball dominating player he's always been while playing 30 mins a night regardless of what he does on the court. To me that risk is to big... especially considering the SF's that are available through free agency. I think we would have been a much better team keeping Beno and making a run at one of the FA SF's...

This is why I would still like them to sign a guy like Prince or Battier. Not only do I think they are better than Salmons, but it gives them the luxury of being able to stick his *ss on the bench if he's not on board with what they are trying to accomplish.

 

[Bricklayer]

People want to remember his first stint here, but back then we had no direction...Salmons, given direction, plays well within a system. I double doubt that we amnesty Mr Salmons.

There is basically no proof for that statement BTW. And Westphal certainly isn't going to test it.

He's left 4 different cities now under a cloud, and I always thought a big part of the cloud was his own inability to see that he was causing it. Good skills. Inherently selfish player with all the personality and leadership of sea sludge. Leaves two questions for me. The first being even if he still has the skills is there any possibility he could take such a huge step forward in basetball IQ and unselfishness that he would be willing to use them in a complimentary fashion? The second being concern that those skills might be eroding. Last year in Milwaulkee the guy who's drives used to define his game looking like a sluggish aging mid-percentage 3pt bomber. Which begins to remind one of one of Geoff's dumber mistakes back in the golden era when he picked up a formerly very good player by the name of Nick Anderson and failed to see that he was well on the road to aging, sluggish, low percentage 3pt chucker and not the player he once had been.

 

[sdballer]

There is basically no proof for that statement BTW. And Westphal certainly isn't going to test it.

He's left 4 different cities now under a cloud, and I always thought a big part of the cloud was his own inability to see that he was causing it. Good skills. Inherently selfish player with all the personality and leadership of sea sludge. Leaves two questions for me. The first being even if he still has the skills is there any possibility he could take such a huge step forward in basetball IQ and unselfishness that he would be willing to use them in a complimentary fashion? The second being concern that those skills might be eroding. Last year in Milwaulkee the guy who's drives used to define his game looking like a sluggish aging mid-percentage 3pt bomber. Which begins to remind one of one of Geoff's dumber mistakes back in the golden era when he picked up a formerly very good player by the name of Nick Anderson and failed to see that he was well on the road to aging, sluggish, low percentage 3pt chucker and not the player he once had been.

Exactly. A leopard rarely changes its spots. Especially not ones that get paid millions and are fawned over by the general public to play a game. I'd love to be wrong but I'm always wary when fan's in every city a guy plays are thrilled to see him gone.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

Battier or Prince would be perfect. Overpay a little for battier for like a two year deal put him on our bench after that.

 

[Telemachus]

Good news. It's always hard to judge national stories given the agendas of various journalists. All I can say, is I hope Dally strongly considers the talent on this roster, flexibility to add pieces, and upwards trajectory we should be heading, and gives us a fair shake.

I've noticed that the national media always assumes that any big name FAs will obviously want to go to the bigger cities or to play with other big name players. I don't think I have ever seen any of them say they thought a FA would want to sign with the Kings.

 

[Telemachus]

Sure, there is a possibility that it will work. However there is also a possibility that it will be disastrous and Salmons will be the same ball dominating player he's always been while playing 30 mins a night regardless of what he does on the court. To me that risk is to big... especially considering the SF's that are available through free agency. I think we would have been a much better team keeping Beno and making a run at one of the FA SF's...

The only team that I have seen Salmons dominate the ball with is the Kings (which he was asked to do BTW, just proved he wasn't a PG). He didn't play that way with Philly, Chicago, or Milwaukee. And I'm pretty sure he played a lot of minutes with both the Bulls and the Bucks.

 

[rainmaker]

The only team that I have seen Salmons dominate the ball with is the Kings (which he was asked to do BTW, just proved he wasn't a PG). He didn't play that way with Philly, Chicago, or Milwaukee. And I'm pretty sure he played a lot of minutes with both the Bulls and the Bucks.

NBA Black Holes, last year. SG position.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=8847

Shooting Guards Pos G Min MPG T/Min %Pass %Shoot %Fouled %TO
Nick Young SG 52 1641 31.6 0.81 27.4% 55.4% 12.0% 5.1%
Anthony Morrow SG 40 1274 31.9 0.62 36.0% 52.0% 7.1% 4.9%
DeMar DeRozan SG 56 1926 34.4 0.84 36.0% 44.4% 13.9% 5.7%
Kevin Martin SG 55 1722 31.3 1.21 36.6% 39.1% 18.7% 5.6%
Jason Richardson SG 56 1849 33.0 0.78 36.6% 51.5% 7.7% 4.2%
Wesley Matthews SG 56 1915 34.2 0.92 39.4% 42.2% 12.5% 5.9%
Dwyane Wade SG 52 1928 37.1 1.47 47.6% 33.5% 12.9% 6.0%
Stephen Jackson SG 54 1999 37.0 1.26 48.7% 35.6% 8.8% 6.9%
Brandon Roy SG 23 813 35.3 1.17 48.9% 36.7% 10.4% 4.0%
Kobe Bryant SG 57 1933 33.9 1.70 49.7% 34.1% 10.8% 5.4%
Ray Allen SG 54 1948 36.1 0.95 50.5% 37.8% 7.3% 4.4%
Eric Gordon SG 41 1550 37.8 1.39 50.7% 33.0% 11.3% 5.0%
Raja Bell SG 50 1534 30.7 0.62 51.4% 37.8% 6.6% 4.3%
John Salmons SG 46 1586 34.5 1.06 51.4% 34.5% 8.9% 5.3%
Monta Ellis SG 55 2262 41.1 1.46 52.2% 33.6% 8.8% 5.4%
Landry Fields SG 54 1759 32.6 0.64 53.3% 34.0% 6.4% 6.4%
Jamal Crawford SG 49 1504 30.7 1.25 53.4% 31.8% 9.6% 5.2%
Arron Afflalo SG 57 2001 35.1 0.71 53.9% 34.9% 6.9% 4.3%
Tyreke Evans SG 46 1740 37.8 1.47 57.0% 29.9% 7.3% 5.8%
Jason Terry SG 55 1768 32.1 1.38 58.0% 32.1% 5.3% 4.7%
Joe Johnson SG 46 1661 36.1 1.54 59.0% 31.0% 6.3% 3.6%
Manu Ginobili SG 55 1706 31.0 1.56 59.3% 26.4% 9.5% 4.8%
Andre Iguodala SG 44 1631 37.1 1.44 67.8% 21.4% 7.4% 3.4%

How come when I copy and paste stats, it never comes out well, lol? Anyway, it's the %pass which is key. Salmons dominates the ball, well, just like the other names you see around him. THAT, is why I'm worried about him fitting in here, when it's the youngsters who need, and are going to get the shots. His attitude has me just as worried.