Salary cap estimate = 56.1 Million!

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Straight out of David Stern's mouth. This is only a decline of +/- $1 Million. The Kings are currently committed to $33,223,420 next season. They could easily offer a max contract, sign their two picks, AND offer another small contract to keep Brockman / get a shooter. The possibilities!!:D

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/66010/20100416/stern_expects_10_11_cap_to_be_at_$561m/
 
ryanandty said:
Straight out of David Stern's mouth. This is only a decline of +/- $1 Million. The Kings are currently committed to $33,223,420 next season. They could easily offer a max contract, sign their two picks, AND offer another small contract to keep Brockman / get a shooter. The possibilities!!:D

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/66010/20100416/stern_expects_10_11_cap_to_be_at_$561m/
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its good to be a kings fan this year :)
 
The Kings would have had around 16. 3 mil under the old scenario, so if this proves to be true, then were up to around 18.5 mil. It certainly puts us in a position to sign someone or simply make a trade without actually giving up anyone and just absorbing the contract. Of course that would have to be with a team thats just interested in moving salary.

It should, or could be an interesting offseason..
 
I still doubt that we'll even use half of our cap space up, but I think that we might sign a decent PG/SG vet to a Mikki Moore/John Salmons size contract, depending on who we get in the draft.
 
theclash4u5 said:
I still doubt that we'll even use half of our cap space up, but I think that we might sign a decent PG/SG vet to a Mikki Moore/John Salmons size contract, depending on who we get in the draft.
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That is the one thing which I hope does not happen. Spending MLE money, even if it is for one year, would be terrible, especially for a vet. If we can't find a way to sign a FA who is going to seriously help this team over the next 4+ years, then we are far, far, far better off not spending any money and look for trades during the year where we absorb a player's salary to bring them aboard.

The last thing we want to to spend 4+ million on a vet who might take away development time from any of our young guys/new draft picks while not really being a part of this team's future.

Now I'm not against having a vet being a core part of our team's championship future. But I don't want to bring in a vet, especially for a large multi-year deal, until we know exactly what we have in our young core. We don't know how well Hawes/JT/Greene/Casspi will actually pan out and how much of their potential they will reach. So until we've got a clearer idea of exactly where our strengths and weaknesses lie, I'd rather not sign that veteran.


Also, let's assume that we pick up Brockman, McGuire, and Udoka for another cheap 1-2 year deal. We are going to have a top 6 pick plus the 33rd pick in the draft which should be a good player who stays on our roster. That would leave our roster count at: 13

Since Petrie likes to keep the roster at 14, it means that we've got 1 more slot for an impact player. I really hope that we use those roster spaces wisely, and since we may have the opportunity to absorb huge amounts of salary, we could potentially set ourselves up for a fantastic trade mid-season if we don't find the free-agent we are looking for.
 
Uncia03 said:
Also, let's assume that we pick up Brockman, McGuire, and Udoka for another cheap 1-2 year deal. We are going to have a top 6 pick plus the 33rd pick in the draft which should be a good player who stays on our roster. That would leave our roster count at: 13
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Actually, that's 14:
Evans/Udrih/Garcia/(Udoka)
Casspi/Greene/Nocioni/(McGuire)
Landry/Thompson/Hawes/(Brockman)
1st Round/#33

I think we might like to bring McGuire back to see if he can play lock-down perimeter D, and unless the #33 is a backup PG, we probably would like to get a 3rd-stringer, which probably leaves Udoka as the odd man out.

That of course, doesn't even account for any possible free agents. We come in with 9 players under contract at just a hint over $33M. Our 1st rounder will be about $4M or so, the #33 would be less than $1M. Brock and McGuire would be about $1M a pop, which puts us at about $40M for 13 players. The minimum salary will be about $42M, so we would need to sign another player to at least a $2M contract just to follow the rules. But we'll probably make a somewhat bigger splash in the free agent market than that. How big, I don't know.
 
"King" James's nickname was really a prophecy that will come true this summer. He started his career here, and will end it here.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
Actually, that's 14:
Evans/Udrih/Garcia/(Udoka)
Casspi/Greene/Nocioni/(McGuire)
Landry/Thompson/Hawes/(Brockman)
1st Round/#33

I think we might like to bring McGuire back to see if he can play lock-down perimeter D, and unless the #33 is a backup PG, we probably would like to get a 3rd-stringer, which probably leaves Udoka as the odd man out.

That of course, doesn't even account for any possible free agents. We come in with 9 players under contract at just a hint over $33M. Our 1st rounder will be about $4M or so, the #33 would be less than $1M. Brock and McGuire would be about $1M a pop, which puts us at about $40M for 13 players. The minimum salary will be about $42M, so we would need to sign another player to at least a $2M contract just to follow the rules. But we'll probably make a somewhat bigger splash in the free agent market than that. How big, I don't know.
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It's funny, I originally thought it was 14 and had that typed out, and then did a recount and got 13. Thanks for correcting the mistake.

Anyway, I'd like to see McGuire back for his potential defense and I'd also like to see Brockman back, both for cheap contracts.

You're right that if we don't make a big FA splash, then we'll probably have to sign someone to a couple million contract to make sure we get over the minimum salary requirement. But I'd like to keep as much roster/salary flexibility as possible going into the new season in the event that we don't make a big FA splash. Having that sort of flexibility can set up all sorts of great trading opportunities as the trade-deadline approaches.

I would just hate to see us move out of 'max-FA' money to sign a 3rd/4th-tier vet to a multi-year contract for 4+ million.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
Actually, that's 14:
Evans/Udrih/Garcia/(Udoka)
Casspi/Greene/Nocioni/(McGuire)
Landry/Thompson/Hawes/(Brockman)
1st Round/#33

I think we might like to bring McGuire back to see if he can play lock-down perimeter D, and unless the #33 is a backup PG, we probably would like to get a 3rd-stringer, which probably leaves Udoka as the odd man out.

That of course, doesn't even account for any possible free agents. We come in with 9 players under contract at just a hint over $33M. Our 1st rounder will be about $4M or so, the #33 would be less than $1M. Brock and McGuire would be about $1M a pop, which puts us at about $40M for 13 players. The minimum salary will be about $42M, so we would need to sign another player to at least a $2M contract just to follow the rules. But we'll probably make a somewhat bigger splash in the free agent market than that. How big, I don't know.
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I agree with you on Udoka and McGuire. I think it will be either, or. Since they both play a similar game and McGuire is the younger of the two, he may have the edge. But I don't see both of them making the team. And of course it may depend on who the Kings may sign in the way of a higher tier freeagent. Its also possible that some of those players listed may be moved. Or, one last thought, If we were to draft Turner, whose a good defensive player, we may not feel a need for either McGuire or Udoka.
 
Uncia03 said:
It's funny, I originally thought it was 14 and had that typed out, and then did a recount and got 13. Thanks for correcting the mistake.
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If you want double-funny, I said to myself, "That's 14, not 13" and went and typed out a post wherein I could not come up with more than 13. So I figured I had it wrong and deleted it. Then read around the site a bit more, saw Nocioni's name somewhere and realized why I couldn't come up with 14...back to rewrite the post!
 
Capt. Factorial said:
If you want double-funny, I said to myself, "That's 14, not 13" and went and typed out a post wherein I could not come up with more than 13. So I figured I had it wrong and deleted it. Then read around the site a bit more, saw Nocioni's name somewhere and realized why I couldn't come up with 14...back to rewrite the post!
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It's an omen; Noc is on his way to Spain ;)
 
captain bill said:
"King" James's nickname was really a prophecy that will come true this summer. He started his career here, and will end it here.
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captain bill said:
"King" James's nickname was really a prophecy that will come true this summer. He started his career here, and will end it here.
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One can dream... :)
Evans, James, plus another top pick would mean at least 3 rings. :D
But then, the NBA don't like the Kings and this will never happen.:(
 
Lebron ain't leaving cle and even if he did there's very little chance he'd hit up NY or NJ and even less chance he'd hit up sac but I always had this weird feeling that he may have his eyes on sacto.
 
est.1999 said:
Lebron ain't leaving cle and even if he did there's very little chance he'd hit up NY or NJ and even less chance he'd hit up sac but I always had this weird feeling that he may have his eyes on sacto.
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As far as feelings go, that one's pretty weird.
 
With the Maloofs bleeding money right now, I hightly doubt they will take advantage of their cap space to make a free agent splash. I hope I am wrong. :rolleyes:
 
Capt. Factorial said:
If you want double-funny, I said to myself, "That's 14, not 13" and went and typed out a post wherein I could not come up with more than 13. So I figured I had it wrong and deleted it. Then read around the site a bit more, saw Nocioni's name somewhere and realized why I couldn't come up with 14...back to rewrite the post!
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You number guys can't count to 14!:p
 
LWP777 said:
With the Maloofs bleeding money right now, I hightly doubt they will take advantage of their cap space to make a free agent splash. I hope I am wrong. :rolleyes:
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Unfortunately, I'm just as pessimistic. I think they punt this year when it comes to spending FA money.
 
LWP777 said:
With the Maloofs bleeding money right now, I hightly doubt they will take advantage of their cap space to make a free agent splash. I hope I am wrong. :rolleyes:
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If Maloofs are smart business operators as I believe they are, then they would be stupid to spend the money this summer.

It has nothing to do with them bleeding money but more to do with the uncertainty of the new CBA.

Why would you drop a maximum contract on someone when that copuld potentially cause you so much pain down the track. If I were the Maloofs, I would be looking to spend my money in the 2011 free agency. At least you have some control over your predictions. This way, they drop $16 million on say Bosh, then the new CBA ends up stating that the max salary is $9 million and there is a hard cap instead of the flexible cap that we have in place now. Imagine the negative long term effects that would have on the franchise. It could take a decade or more to recover from such move.
 
Čarolija said:
If Maloofs are smart business operators as I believe they are, then they would be stupid to spend the money this summer.

It has nothing to do with them bleeding money but more to do with the uncertainty of the new CBA.

Why would you drop a maximum contract on someone when that copuld potentially cause you so much pain down the track. If I were the Maloofs, I would be looking to spend my money in the 2011 free agency. At least you have some control over your predictions. This way, they drop $16 million on say Bosh, then the new CBA ends up stating that the max salary is $9 million and there is a hard cap instead of the flexible cap that we have in place now. Imagine the negative long term effects that would have on the franchise. It could take a decade or more to recover from such move.
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I completely agree. There will be a team or two that will overspend this summer, and deeply regret it for years to come. The CBA will be renegotiated, and there will be changes. What those are, we don't know. But unless we are able to pull off a deal that is a no brainer, signing a player for a large amount for any kind of an extended period of time, becomes a risky investment, given the new CBA is completely up in the air right now.

On top of that, the 2011 class is also a very good class, and deeper than this years. This summer, Wade and Lebron are clearly worth max contracts. But I think its likely that most of the other big name signings will end up being overpaid, after what happens with the CBA, and teams will regret the signings.

I have no problem waiting another year, letting our young guys and our draft picks develop for a year, and then make a splash in the 2011 FA market. It will also help that Tyreke will be that much better, this team will be that much better, and that leads to other FA's wanting to come here and play with Tyreke. There are a number of big men who will be FA's in a year, and I trully believe Tyreke will have a few of them attracted to the idea of playing with him.

Here's a list of most of the 2011 unrestricted FA big men. There are more than a few I wouldn't mind seeing in a Kings uniform, and more than likely they'll be available for less than they would have in the past.
Yao Ming
Dirk Nowitzki
Amare Stoudemire
Tyson Chandler
Kendrick Perkins
Joel Przybilla
Samuel Dalembert
Kenyon Martin
Zach Randolph
Carl Landry
Leon Powe
Nick Colliso
Eric Dampie
Jeff Foster
Chuck Hayes
Kris Humphries
Troy Murphy
Glen Davis
Channing Frye
Chris Wilcox
Nenad Krstic
Joel Anthony
Eddy Curry
Solomon Jones
Marcus Haislip
Nazr Mohammed
 
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