Sacramento, Indiana Closing in on Deal?
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And ALL the rumors are based on the one piece from draftexpress...and Phillips keeping his client's name out there in the media.
Sarunas just got married. There are LOTS of reports he may want to return to Europe. I simply don't see the benefit in us doing this deal.
Sam Amick saying it would give the Kings "the depth down low they need" doesn't convince me. In fact, quite a bit of what Amick has had to say lately hasn't impressed me whatsoever.
If anything, this looks more like something that resulted from Phillips making a late-night phone call to Amick than the other way around.
Sarunas just got married. There are LOTS of reports he may want to return to Europe. I simply don't see the benefit in us doing this deal.
Sam Amick saying it would give the Kings "the depth down low they need" doesn't convince me. In fact, quite a bit of what Amick has had to say lately hasn't impressed me whatsoever.
If anything, this looks more like something that resulted from Phillips making a late-night phone call to Amick than the other way around.
So you would rather have a rookie with no real PG experience or a phantom veteran PG that magically joins the team?
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
First you say things about how Bonzi will never duplicate those numbers yet you bring them up as if to ultimately justify how this trade sucks for the Kings. I hope Bonzi stays, but the idea is time. This deal would have to START at around 9 million. Meaning it may very well end at around 13-14 million. That is just too much for Bonzi Wells who is a 13 and 6 player.
#1 I want Bonzi back more than anyone, but that is rediculous.
Jkbiker
Starter
I really hate this deal, for most reasons that Brick has said.
Why trade down for more roleplayers, and give up our starting sg?
We need to up the ante and then dare Bonzi to leave 9 mil or so at the table, dont think he will do it.
We then keep our starting guard, then have 1-2 years to work on a real consolidating trade combining Bonzi with KT or Reef for a big upgrade to the PF starting slot, whereever he may come from. If we loose Bonzi then Kevin will be ready and we can then upgrade our starting five on our terms , when GP can make the big trade. Not when all we get are 1 maybe 2 backup players.
Why trade down for more roleplayers, and give up our starting sg?
We need to up the ante and then dare Bonzi to leave 9 mil or so at the table, dont think he will do it.
We then keep our starting guard, then have 1-2 years to work on a real consolidating trade combining Bonzi with KT or Reef for a big upgrade to the PF starting slot, whereever he may come from. If we loose Bonzi then Kevin will be ready and we can then upgrade our starting five on our terms , when GP can make the big trade. Not when all we get are 1 maybe 2 backup players.
sidney
Starter
2 thoughts:
1) The team trading away in a sign and trade does't usually get fair value. If Bonzi is restricted or has a year left, no way we trade him for Foster. Considering we may be too far apart, AT LEAST we are getting a big man that has some skill and size.
2) If Saras is part of this deal but goes back to Europe, we clear up a fair amount of room under the luxury tax level to resign Ron in a couple of years. Don't think that is the main goal here but it could be of some benefit.
don't like losing Bonzi but it's not a complete loss.
1) The team trading away in a sign and trade does't usually get fair value. If Bonzi is restricted or has a year left, no way we trade him for Foster. Considering we may be too far apart, AT LEAST we are getting a big man that has some skill and size.
2) If Saras is part of this deal but goes back to Europe, we clear up a fair amount of room under the luxury tax level to resign Ron in a couple of years. Don't think that is the main goal here but it could be of some benefit.
don't like losing Bonzi but it's not a complete loss.
Ryle
Starter
Would you then prefer Bonzi walks for nothing???
Kings may not have alot of leverage in this matter because Bonzi could just go to Indiana and take the MLE. Why not get something in return??
SLAB
Hall of Famer
People have already mentioned this, but I'll say it again.
Bonzi for Foster/Daniels...Then we can talk.
Bonzi/Cisco/pick for Foster/Granger...Then we can talk.
Bonzi for Foster/Saras?...Hang up the phone Geoff.
If we don't get one of their young, good swingmen in the deal I am not going to be happy.
nbrans
All-Star
If Geoff really truly gets the sense that Bonzi is going to do that, then yeah, you have to get something in return. I just have a hard time believing Bonzi would leave $10 million on the table.
Ryle
Starter
See my above post. We don't have a whole lot of leverage in who we get and Bonzi could walk for nothing.
sidney
Starter
watch any kings games this last year?
Ryle
Starter
I agree with you on that front but you never know.
I'd rather have a guard in Douby who has quickness, is a better athlete, younger, a versatile scorer, 6'9" wingspan, and a better prospect. Douby can handle the ball, just needs to work on his point skills, which he said he will and is this summer, ditto with adding weight.
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Diabeticwonder
Bench
The Pacers are one of 5 teams interested in aquiring Jamal Magloire...meaning, that they are most likely looking for him to replace Foster.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/41431/20060711/five_teams_in_the_running_for_magloire/
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/41431/20060711/five_teams_in_the_running_for_magloire/
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Hey, look at me, I'm a tool!
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Hey, I got a better idea. Why don't we keep Bonzi and trade for Magloire. I know...sounds easier said than done. The only way I'd let Bonzi go is if we can package one of our overpaid contracts along with him. We have too much $$ just sitting on the bench, and we need something in return.
Hicks
G-League
No we didn't. And if someone digs up a stat saying we did, it was due to injury.
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Would you trade Bonzi is throw in Kenny Thomas just to get rid of his lame contract?
Hicks
G-League
Lots? I've seen one, and it was a questionable source.
Ryle
Starter
I'm all for that. If they would take Thomas and we get Magliore it would be great.
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Starting Five
Bench
Umm..Grant and Mike Lamb think this is a good deal. I think we could get more for Bozni.
Torched? Kevin Martin has superb lateral quickness and is a good defender considering that young players generally need two to three years to learn to play defense at the NBA level.
I'm very much in favor of bringing Bonzi back, but Kevin is already a better perimeter defender than Wells.
Now, Martin is still easily pushed around by bigger guards who post him up (which is why I would hate to face Bonzi Wells with Kevin as our starting SG) but otherwise his defense is good and will get better.
I'm very much in favor of bringing Bonzi back, but Kevin is already a better perimeter defender than Wells.
Now, Martin is still easily pushed around by bigger guards who post him up (which is why I would hate to face Bonzi Wells with Kevin as our starting SG) but otherwise his defense is good and will get better.
