Sacramento, Golden State, New York Three Way Trade

[Jespher]

Sacramento Out:

Ron Artest

Sacramento In:

Dan Dickau
Fred Jones
Monta Ellis

Change in Team Outlook: +7.5 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and +3.8 apg.

Golden State Out:

Monta Ellis

Golden State In:

David Lee

Change in Team Outlook: -5.8 ppg, +7.2 rpg, and -2.3 apg.

New York Out:

Dan Dickau
Fred Jones
David Lee

New York In:

Ron Artest

Change in Team Outlook: -1.7 ppg, -6.6 rpg, and -1.5 apg.

Why Sacramento Does This: This deal would eliminate an off the court cancer in Ron Artest, and secure the Kings two expiring contracts, and the most improved player last year. This would solve the backup point guard situation for this season with Dickau and Ellis to help out Bibby and Douby.
Making this move expedites the rebuilding process by splitting up Bibby and Artest, and opening up cap space to sign Kevin Martin to a contract extension as well. If Monta Ellis doesn't continue to improve, he is an expiring contract as well, and if he remains on pace to shine, then the Kings would have the Bird rights to resign him, and some space to extend his contract while remaining under the luxury tax.

Why Sacramento Doesn't Do This: This would help out a division rival and would set the team defense back a long way. Although Ron Artest is a major head case, he is very talented, and by far the best defender the Kings have had on their roster since Doug "My favorite" Christie suited it up and bashed with Rick Fox. When rebuilding you have to break some eggs, and this would probably take the Kings out of playoff contention for next year as it is more talent bleeding. Also, this trade doesn't move other key salary clogs in Kenny Thomas, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Brad Miller, or Mike Bibby while removing our most versatile on the court leader, defender, and hustle player. I guess that is how low Ron Artest's trade stock has fallen.

Why Golden State Does This: Golden State has been shopping Monta Ellis all off season, as he came up short in the playoffs. This move adds a perfect player to Don Nelson's run and gun as David Lee is an exceptional rebounder, proficient low post scorer, and is adept at playing big in an up tempo offense. This move trades small for big, and gives the Warriors three future studs down low for Baron Davis and Stephen Jackson to set up in Biedrens, Brandon Wright, and David Lee (Not to mention Al Harrington). This move also opens more playing time for summer league standout Marco Belinelli.

Why Golden State Doesn't Do This: This move ships out a capable guard who worked well with Don Nelson's system. Having already shipped out Jason Richardson for Brandon Wright this would further weaken a back court captained by the injury plagued Baron Davis. Furthermore, Monta Ellis proved he could play in the NBA all season, while his replacement, Marco Belinelli is entering his rookie season and is unproven at the NBA level. Does Nelson's run and gun system work with one less shooter?

Why New York Does This: New York is in such luxury tax hell, that they don't mind giving up expiring contracts to buy more talent. Ron Artest is the most talented player in this trade, and Isiah has been salavating to add him to a SF depleted Knicks team which lacks defensive intensity and perimeter passing. The addition of Ron Artest, along with Zach Randolph, enables the Knicks to contend for the Atlantic Division, against the likes of Boston, New Jersey, and Toronto. The loss of David Lee's rebounding is overshadowed by the gain of Ron Artest's defensive intensity and the homecoming of another New York son.

Why New York Doesn't Do This: Putting Ron Artest, Zach Randolph, Stephon Marbury, and Nate Robinson together is a recipe for trouble (or prison if things go especially bad). Winning in the NBA is dependent on skill, but it is also dependent on chemistry, and too many trouble makers can cause an already tenuous Knicks situation to spontaneously combust. Isiah should be very careful mixing flawed character pieces together, as the possibility for success, could be matched by the possibility of historical off the court calamity.

Kings New Lineup:

PG: Mike Bibby/Dan Dickau(Exp)/Monta Ellis(Exp)/Quincy Douby/Mustafa Shakur?
SG: Kevin Martin/Monta Ellis/Fred Jones(Exp)/Quincy Douby/Francisco Garcia
SF: Francisco Garcia/John Salmons (Also PG/SG)
PF: Mikki Moore/Justin Williams/Kenny Thomas/Shareef Abdur-Rahim
C: Brad Miller/Spencer Hawes/Justin Williams/Shareef Abdur-Rahim

Warriors New Lineup:

PG: Baron Davis/Sarunas Jasikevicius(Exp)/Kelenna Azubuike
SG: Marco Belinelli/Stephen Jackson/Matt Barnes
SF: Stephen Jackson/Matt Barnes(Exp)/Austin Croshere(Exp)/Al Harrington
PF: Al Harrington/Brandon Wright/David Lee/Andreis Biedrens(Exp)
C: Andreis Biedrens/David Lee/Patrick O'Bryant/Al Harrington

Knicks New Lineup:

PG: Stephon Marbury/Nate Robinson/Mardy Collins
SG: Jamal Crawford/Jared Jeffries/Quentin Richardson
SF: Ron Artest/Renaldo Balkman/Quentin Richardson/Wilson Chandler
PF: Zach Randolph/Malik Rose/Ron Artest
C: Eddie Curry/Jerome James/Randolph Morris

 

[bajaden]

You just took the one player I wanted frome New York and gave him to the Warriors. Artest is worth more than the chump change we would get in that trade. Two of those players are throw aways. That means were trading Artest for Ellis. I'll pass thank you. I wouldn't trade Artest straight across for Lee, and I would do that before I'd trade him for Monte and a couple of throw aways....

 

[Smills91]

Let's see we need a QUALITY 4. So we'll get one from NY and deal him for another combo guard????

Cut the warriors out and send KFT to the Knicks for Rose and I'd say deal.

 

[Heuge]

Great deal. Monta Ellis is a potential all star.

 

[vfettke]

Monta is good and all, but what do we need him for

Zeke is not trading David Lee for Artest. even if he were, why do we do this trade when WE want Lee?

 

[bajaden]

Monta is good and all, but what do we need him for

Zeke is not trading David Lee for Artest. even if he were, why do we do this trade when WE want Lee?

I think Zeke will trade Lee for Artest. It won't happen until aug 28th. Lets face it, Artest would be their starting SF and they have Randoff as thier starting PF. That makes Lee a back-up at that position. I know that Zeke would love to give us Balkman instead and keeps pumping him up, but Lee is bigger, stronger, faster, and has more skills. Balkman is nothing but a hustle player. Thats not a knock on him, thats just what he is. You want to give me both, I'll take them.

 

[Heuge]

Monta is good and all, but what do we need him for

Zeke is not trading David Lee for Artest. even if he were, why do we do this trade when WE want Lee?

Why we want Lee, I just don't get. Another undersized, relatively unathletic 4.

 

[Jespher]

Why we want Lee, I just don't get. Another undersized, relatively unathletic 4.

The Kings would be getting Monta Ellis in this deal, not David Lee, so we wouldn't worry about Spencer losing the minutes he needs to develop. David Lee is pretty athletic thou, as he averaged a double double coming off the bench (pretty impressive).

 

[Jespher]

Let's see we need a QUALITY 4. So we'll get one from NY and deal him for another combo guard????

Cut the warriors out and send KFT to the Knicks for Rose and I'd say deal.

Why do we need another PF Smiles? The Kings already have Mikki Moore, Justin Williams, Kenny Thomas, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, and Daryl Watkins all competing for minutes there (both BM and Spencer can play there too), and you want to get more? I know it would be nice to move KT and Reef, but it takes two to tango.

Looking back at the acquisitions of the summer, it seams the back court is the one piece we didn't seriously address (Mustafa Shakur aside), and I think adding the most improved player, who is only 20 himself, to this back court would go a long way to rebuilding the team. Monta Ellis is a stud who would play about 30 minutes a game either spelling Kevin, or backing up Bibby. If Bibby is also dealt, as rumor has it is off and on, the Monta is a capable starter if necessary, and Douby would take on more of a roll. Removing Ron also allows Francisco Garcia to start and get more PT. Furthermore, adding expiring contracts would enable us to make extension offers to our young players who are due (Kevin, Francisco, Ellis if we got him).

 

[Smills91]

Why do we need another PF Smiles? The Kings already have Mikki Moore, Justin Williams, Kenny Thomas, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, and Daryl Watkins all competing for minutes there (both BM and Spencer can play there too), and you want to get more? I know it would be nice to move KT and Reef, but it takes two to tango.

Looking back at the acquisitions of the summer, it seams the back court is the one piece we didn't seriously address (Mustafa Shakur aside), and I think adding the most improved player, who is only 20 himself, to this back court would go a long way to rebuilding the team. Monta Ellis is a stud who would play about 30 minutes a game either spelling Kevin, or backing up Bibby. If Bibby is also dealt, as rumor has it is off and on, the Monta is a capable starter if necessary, and Douby would take on more of a roll. Removing Ron also allows Francisco Garcia to start and get more PT. Furthermore, adding expiring contracts would enable us to make extension offers to our young players who are due (Kevin, Francisco, Ellis if we got him).

I guess you missed the capitalized word saying quality.

 

[venom_7]

Nate Robinson gets in one NBA scuffle and he's mentioned in the same breath as Zach Randolph, Starbury, and Ron Ron? Give me a break, he might be feisty, but his head is on straight. As for the deal, no way. Just give me David Lee, no need for Monta, Dickau, or Jones, which just makes us overloaded on tweener guards AND tweener forwards.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Nate Robinson gets in one NBA scuffle and he's mentioned in the same breath as Zach Randolph, Starbury, and Ron Ron? Give me a break, he might be feisty, but his head is on straight. As for the deal, no way. Just give me David Lee, no need for Monta, Dickau, or Jones, which just makes us overloaded on tweener guards AND tweener forwards.

dickau, jones are expiring contracts. i'd rather have lee instead of ellis-

 

[Superman]

Any deal involving the Knicks and Artest that doesn't get Kenny F. Thomas' contract out of Sacramento is a failure, plain and simple. I'm not really interested in Monta Ellis, as we have Kevin Martin and Francisco Garcia.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

Nate Robinson gets in one NBA scuffle and he's mentioned in the same breath as Zach Randolph, Starbury, and Ron Ron? Give me a break, he might be feisty, but his head is on straight. As for the deal, no way. Just give me David Lee, no need for Monta, Dickau, or Jones, which just makes us overloaded on tweener guards AND tweener forwards.

hey, just one a side note...for your offseason 'wish list' would KFT getting bought out count as 'traded' to you? lol I actually see that possibly happening.

 

[Superman]

hey, just one a side note...for your offseason 'wish list' would KFT getting bought out count as 'traded' to you? lol I actually see that possibly happening.

Nope. The point in trading him is not having to account for his salary on the payroll. That doesn't happen if we buy him out.

 

[beb0p]

Dream on. Zeke is not going to trade David Lee. The Knicks have the worst defensive big men combo in their starting lineup; they need Lee's hustle now more than ever.