Rudy Gay?
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bajaden
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Gay has been discussed endlessly already. I can't say that there's a consensus one way or the other. But in general it doesn't make a lot of sense for the Kings. They already have two very good prospects at the SF position, and Gay would require a max contract. In essense it would be trying for a quick fix. I understand those that would do that, but it doesn't make sense financially. Especially when its not a position of need. This has nothing to do with my opinion of Gay, who I like, but I'm not sure he's worth a max contract. At least to the Kings.
ParniValjak
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In a word, NO!
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NME
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He would good athletically alongside our front line, but his game is all wrong. He's a volume scorer, a focal point scorer, and a black hole. Among the league's SF's, his shooting efficiency is middling, and he's dead at the bottom in both assisted baskets and passing ratio. He takes the ball and he scores, but he doesn't score off anybody else's activity and nobody scores off of his. With a team that's hopefully going to be built on two dominating go-to guys in Tyreke and Cousins, this is the last type of player we want to add to the mix, especially since we'd be investing a lot in him. The types of wings we want are more efficient, reactive and complementary scorers, and we already have a couple along those lines.
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RekeDMC
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How much would he cost?
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Lafayette
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I'd sign him for 3 years/$10/12m a season at best with a team option for the 4th year.
Why???
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Lafayette
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So he can play the 3 spot and you'll have a young player for up to 4 years. Why not?
Because you are wasting a good chunk (WAY too much) of our cap space at a position where we already have 2 young players (Casspi and Greene) and Garcia? Why would you want to do that????
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Lafayette
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Your kidding right, you wouldn't want him over Garcia.
King-Da-Yah
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Cuz he is gonna be an all-star Warhawk. Cuz he gets paid a lot of money and he deserves it because he is just so good. Cuz he is the only second tier player that the kings can get. Cuz we have a big huge glaring hole at the 3.
Wait a minute, I just noticed the goons that don't understand our team out in the East coast have a lot in common with some posters here! NMR put it perectly, we just don't need a volume scorer on our team. I would rather spend less money on Landry next year and have him be our black hole (he would not be as bad as Gay in that department too).
Wait a minute, I just noticed the goons that don't understand our team out in the East coast have a lot in common with some posters here! NMR put it perectly, we just don't need a volume scorer on our team. I would rather spend less money on Landry next year and have him be our black hole (he would not be as bad as Gay in that department too).
Telemachus
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This really has nothing to do with Garcia. It has a lot more to do with Greene and Casspi. They are both younger than Gay, and I don't think his talent level is enough of an improvement over them to warrant the salary space he would take up. I also tend to agree that he is a bit of a black hole on offense, and I don't really want that on this team. I have seen many national media refer to Tyreke in this regard, but disagree with them. With Tryeke on the outside and Cousins on the inside for the future, the Kings need complimentary scorers around them. Gay doesn't compliment the players around him. He likes to be the main scorer on the team (or at least seems to play that way).
We need a backup PG and/or a combo guard, not a $10+ million per year player at a position we have some good young talent to develop. We just dug ourselves out of a financial quagmire and have some talent to start paying in two years, let's not blow all that now on a short-sighted signing.........
I agree and I hope people really understand the wisdom in this post. Guys, we are not contending for the Championships yet. No need to be in a hurry and spend lavishly when we have some very promising young players on that spot.
King-Da-Yah
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Bingo, I saw someone make the analogy before that we are going the OKC route and not the Celts route. We would have traded our #5 pick if we were trying to be more like the C's, and we would have Gay AND Bosh for the upcoming season (not that they would want to come here). I think Donte needs to be given more of a chance too. IMO he could very well end up being for Tyreke what Ron Ron is for Kobe, and DMC can be that dominant big that takes us to the next level (see Pau Gasol for L.A.)
Jkbiker
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Per David Aldridge:
Two sources have told me that the Memphis Grizzlies are going to make the first major move in the Summer of 2010 free-agent bonanza by taking their emerging star small forward and restricted free agent Rudy Gay off the market, agreeing to terms with Gay on a five-year deal that could be worth about $82 million.
http://www.nba.com/news/features/aldridge.2010.freeagency/
Two sources have told me that the Memphis Grizzlies are going to make the first major move in the Summer of 2010 free-agent bonanza by taking their emerging star small forward and restricted free agent Rudy Gay off the market, agreeing to terms with Gay on a five-year deal that could be worth about $82 million.
http://www.nba.com/news/features/aldridge.2010.freeagency/
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bajaden
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I don't know the length of the contract, but at 6 years it would be over 13 mil a year. There is no way I want the Kings to commit that much money to one player with a new CBA looming a year from now. But if I were, it would be for a position of need. We need a back up point guard and another SG. Last time I checked Gay doesn't fit either of those job descriptions. Bear in mind folks, that in the near future were going to have our own Rudi Gay situation. Thompson and Greene will be up for new contracts. A couple of years later so will Evans and Casspi. It behoves the Kings to be extremely careful right now. No one knows how user friendly the new CBA will be. Will there be a hard cap? And if so, how will that affect resigning your own freeagents if you can't go over the cap to resign them?
We max out our salary cap right now and for the forseeable future, and we may just be stuck watching Tyreke walk out the door because we have no room under the cap to resign him. And my gut tells me he'll be in high demand at that time. Now I doubt that will happen, but I wouldn't want to bet the Kings future on my ability to predict anything. May I suggest that we start to put a little thought into some of these threads. I realize were not the GM, and its all in good fun. But it should make some sense in the overall scheme of things. And that includes the finanical future of the Kings.
We max out our salary cap right now and for the forseeable future, and we may just be stuck watching Tyreke walk out the door because we have no room under the cap to resign him. And my gut tells me he'll be in high demand at that time. Now I doubt that will happen, but I wouldn't want to bet the Kings future on my ability to predict anything. May I suggest that we start to put a little thought into some of these threads. I realize were not the GM, and its all in good fun. But it should make some sense in the overall scheme of things. And that includes the finanical future of the Kings.
Dreadnought
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I would assume that even under new the agreement, teams will still be allowed to go over the cap. So I believe that as long as Tyreke HAS the desire to stay in Sacramento, we'll always have enough to afford him, under or over the cap.
Telemachus
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The owners are pushing for a HARD CAP in the next CBA. It is one of the main issues they are pushing for.
ElRey
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When I saw that I was like WOW, just wow! A lot of teams are going to commit financial suicide this year in free agency. I'm perfectly happy with the Kings taking a backseat this year.
captain bill
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all chances of building through FA just evaporated. wouldnt be suprised to see reddick get 7-8 per at this point. good thing we have a solid rotation at every position (outside pg) moving forward. lots of teams will be handcuffed to 25-35 win seasons within the next 2 years because of whats happening right now
