Rubio might stay in spain for another year or two according to his dad
I say keep him there and we will keep Tyreke. He would have done the same to us. So why should we trade for him. Great job to draft Tyreke over Rubio. Our goal is to strengthen our team. That doesn't happen when little boys are not happy with where they are traded and talk about trying to stay over seas. Sounds like he was a bust after all?
i really think that us taking a look at his contract has something to play with us picking tyreke...
an agreement maybe
"ok stay in spain for said years and well come after you when you still want to"
didnt sources say we got a peek at his contract?
i dont know
but if rubio sticks to spain.. ill be laughing my @%% off at the t'wolves for wasting their picks on 4 point guards....
thats what you get for not having an interview twolves
hope we can still snag him
okc hiring a law firm lmao
an agreement maybe
"ok stay in spain for said years and well come after you when you still want to"
didnt sources say we got a peek at his contract?
i dont know
but if rubio sticks to spain.. ill be laughing my @%% off at the t'wolves for wasting their picks on 4 point guards....
thats what you get for not having an interview twolves
hope we can still snag him
okc hiring a law firm lmao
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Why draft Tyreke? Probably because, unlike a lot of fans, the Kings just weren't that convinced Rubio was NBA ready.
There are several links in the gazillion threads posted about Rubio that lead back to his comments about Sacramento. In fact, it was even mentioned on ESPN this evening that he had clearly indicated his excitement over the possibility of coming to California because of the similarity in weather to his home country.
I was intrigued by Rubio but I can see why the Kings wouldn't want to take the risk.
There are several links in the gazillion threads posted about Rubio that lead back to his comments about Sacramento. In fact, it was even mentioned on ESPN this evening that he had clearly indicated his excitement over the possibility of coming to California because of the similarity in weather to his home country.
I was intrigued by Rubio but I can see why the Kings wouldn't want to take the risk.
I don't think we should overlook the fact, that unlike the other players there tonight or at most drafts, Rubio would have to pay a lot of money come play in the US. It just may be that falling down the draft some, made it less desirable to pay a bunch of money to come over now. He's only 18, he's got time.
I think he really does want to come and play in the NBA, but I can understand not wanting to come here, if you have to pay big bucks to play for a team that you don't particularly want to play for. Besides, Minny drafting and keeping 2 PGs wasn't exactly a big vote of confidence in Rubio, either.
Other players may not like the team that drafts them, but they don't have to pay millions of dollars for the priviledge of playing for that team either.
Of course, Rubio may still choose to come anyway.
I think he really does want to come and play in the NBA, but I can understand not wanting to come here, if you have to pay big bucks to play for a team that you don't particularly want to play for. Besides, Minny drafting and keeping 2 PGs wasn't exactly a big vote of confidence in Rubio, either.
Other players may not like the team that drafts them, but they don't have to pay millions of dollars for the priviledge of playing for that team either.
Of course, Rubio may still choose to come anyway.
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Ricky and Evans aren't good fits together, lets face it guys, they just didn't want Rubio. Personally, I think they made a mistake. I don't understand the idea about Rubio not being NBA ready. Yeah, he probably still has a lot of kinks to work out considering he's coming to a very different environment, but nothing that he isn't likely to easily adjust to with time. This pick is about the long term (or at least should be about the long term) and Evans is the bigger risk long term than Ricky is IMO.
On a sidenote, I'm very disappointed for Ricky. I don't think he ended in that bad of a situation, but I think it's obvious their GM has no freaking clue what he's doing with that backcourt. I still hope Ricky will play in the summer league, I was looking forward to seeing him square off against a lot of these guys, too bad it won't be in a Kings uniform.
On a sidenote, I'm very disappointed for Ricky. I don't think he ended in that bad of a situation, but I think it's obvious their GM has no freaking clue what he's doing with that backcourt. I still hope Ricky will play in the summer league, I was looking forward to seeing him square off against a lot of these guys, too bad it won't be in a Kings uniform.
I tend to agree with this.
The thing is though, our roster is full of guys that can't create their own shot. That's why Rubio was, IMO, the best fit AND the BPA for us. With Evans and Rubio, we'd have one floor leader who can run the pick and roll and another who can create his own shot in crunch time.
It's interesting. If it was available, I'd just send Kevin to Minny for Rubio + expiring contract (Cardinal?). Use the 2010 cap space to sign another talent.
The thing is though, our roster is full of guys that can't create their own shot. That's why Rubio was, IMO, the best fit AND the BPA for us. With Evans and Rubio, we'd have one floor leader who can run the pick and roll and another who can create his own shot in crunch time.
It's interesting. If it was available, I'd just send Kevin to Minny for Rubio + expiring contract (Cardinal?). Use the 2010 cap space to sign another talent.
I might, Top 3 protected that is. John Wall is a better prospect, and so no way I would risk him, so I would need the Top 3 protection.
Thing is though that Rubio and Evans are kind of oil and water as players. Two totally different schools, and each needs to have the ball a lot. But given our current projected status of again having one of the worst passing bckcourts in the league, yeah, I would consider that trade just to get a shot at Rubio's potential. The real trick is then you want to get real aggressive in the rest of your moves this summer to try to add talent so that you can make your pick be as late in the lottery as possible (unless you get Top 3 lucky).
Thing is I am not at all sure we, meaning the Kings, would do it even if offered. There seemed to be a decided lack of enthusiasm on our part for Rubio, whether that be our traditional disdain for true PGs, Rubio's now shaky looking decision not to work out, our decisive move to draft for toughness, or whatever.
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Rubio not playing for T-Wolves?
The day before the NBA draft, Ricky Rubio played word association.
I said "Sacramento," and he said "Nice weather."
I said "Oklahoma City," and he said "My best friend lives near there."
I said "Minnesota," and he said "Too cold."
It was fairly meaningless. Watch it on video, and you'll see it was a throwaway line.
Now that sentiment is emerging as something of a major theme of draft night. Does Ricky Rubio hate Minnesota?
When the fifth pick of the NBA draft was announced, Minnesota fans went crazy. They had the their dream player. But the relationship quickly began to feel like unrequited love.
Shortly after the pick, Rubio met the media. At a moment like that, tradition, public relations sense, and just about everything else dictate smiling and saying how much you love your new city -- even if you can't wait to demand a trade.
But the 18-year-old Spaniard was not playing that game. "Are you excited to go to Minnesota?" he was asked.
It was a fair question. It's a team with quality big men, and a mandate for change. What more could a young point guard want? "I'm excited," he responded, "to come to the NBA."
He said his mother hated cold weather.
He was asked about whether being picked by the T-Wolves might inspire him to stay in Europe. He said: "I don't know yet. I have to think about that ... I'm going to talk to my agent about that and we're going to see."
He also said he was very surprised that the team had drafted another point guard in Jonny Flynn. He evaded a question about whether or not he'd even come to the NBA -- until the very end of the meeting with reporters when he threw in a line saying "I want to play basketball, and if they give me minutes, I'm going to come."
Just minutes later, his father was quoted in the Spanish newspaper Marca saying it was probable Rubio would not come to the NBA this year. Translated, he said: "He might go now or he might remain [in Europe] one more year ... or even two. It's all open, although the most likely scenario is that he stays in Europe more time. We have to talk with the folks in Minnesota... and see what happens, because, at this point, we can go to Minnesota or otherwise."
The assumption among those present at Madison Square Garden was that the Timberwolves -- a team long on power forwards and rookie point guards, but short on everything else -- would be trading one of their elite rookie point guards away.
Minnesota general manager David Kahn said that was wholly not the case. On ESPN's TV broadcast, he was adamant that he envisioned Rubio and Flynn playing together. "Absolutely!" he said. "Otherwise we wouldn't have done it."
He called Rubio potentially a "transformational" player, and was clear that "it was not an attempt to take Ricky to trade him."
(There was a report from a TrueHoop reader in Minnesota that Kahn was effusive about Jonny Flynn, and mentioned to the assembled crowd that it was possible Rubio would not come over this season, which was odd as Rubio had said time and again he would come.)
Whether Kahn intends to keep Rubio or trade him, it's a good strategy to say he's in Minnesota to stay. Were Kahn to say that he drafted Rubio to trade him, he'd lose leverage in trade negotiations. (He needs his suitors to think that he'd hate to part with Rubio, but for the right price ... we could talk.)
Remember when the Bucks drafted Yi Jianlian, and there was much bellyaching about whether not the Chinese player would report to Milwaukee? A year later, Yi was later traded to a team more to his liking, in New Jersey. His hard-bargaining agent was Dan Fegan -- who also represents Rubio.
That's no sign the relationship between the Timberwolves and Rubio will end the same way -- culminating in an eventual departure. But it's starting out in similar vein.
(Photo: Nathaniel S. Butler/NBAE/Getty Images)
Source:ESPN.com
The day before the NBA draft, Ricky Rubio played word association.
I said "Sacramento," and he said "Nice weather."
I said "Oklahoma City," and he said "My best friend lives near there."
I said "Minnesota," and he said "Too cold."
It was fairly meaningless. Watch it on video, and you'll see it was a throwaway line.
When the fifth pick of the NBA draft was announced, Minnesota fans went crazy. They had the their dream player. But the relationship quickly began to feel like unrequited love.
Shortly after the pick, Rubio met the media. At a moment like that, tradition, public relations sense, and just about everything else dictate smiling and saying how much you love your new city -- even if you can't wait to demand a trade.
But the 18-year-old Spaniard was not playing that game. "Are you excited to go to Minnesota?" he was asked.
It was a fair question. It's a team with quality big men, and a mandate for change. What more could a young point guard want? "I'm excited," he responded, "to come to the NBA."
He said his mother hated cold weather.
He was asked about whether being picked by the T-Wolves might inspire him to stay in Europe. He said: "I don't know yet. I have to think about that ... I'm going to talk to my agent about that and we're going to see."
He also said he was very surprised that the team had drafted another point guard in Jonny Flynn. He evaded a question about whether or not he'd even come to the NBA -- until the very end of the meeting with reporters when he threw in a line saying "I want to play basketball, and if they give me minutes, I'm going to come."
Just minutes later, his father was quoted in the Spanish newspaper Marca saying it was probable Rubio would not come to the NBA this year. Translated, he said: "He might go now or he might remain [in Europe] one more year ... or even two. It's all open, although the most likely scenario is that he stays in Europe more time. We have to talk with the folks in Minnesota... and see what happens, because, at this point, we can go to Minnesota or otherwise."
The assumption among those present at Madison Square Garden was that the Timberwolves -- a team long on power forwards and rookie point guards, but short on everything else -- would be trading one of their elite rookie point guards away.
Minnesota general manager David Kahn said that was wholly not the case. On ESPN's TV broadcast, he was adamant that he envisioned Rubio and Flynn playing together. "Absolutely!" he said. "Otherwise we wouldn't have done it."
He called Rubio potentially a "transformational" player, and was clear that "it was not an attempt to take Ricky to trade him."
(There was a report from a TrueHoop reader in Minnesota that Kahn was effusive about Jonny Flynn, and mentioned to the assembled crowd that it was possible Rubio would not come over this season, which was odd as Rubio had said time and again he would come.)
Whether Kahn intends to keep Rubio or trade him, it's a good strategy to say he's in Minnesota to stay. Were Kahn to say that he drafted Rubio to trade him, he'd lose leverage in trade negotiations. (He needs his suitors to think that he'd hate to part with Rubio, but for the right price ... we could talk.)
Remember when the Bucks drafted Yi Jianlian, and there was much bellyaching about whether not the Chinese player would report to Milwaukee? A year later, Yi was later traded to a team more to his liking, in New Jersey. His hard-bargaining agent was Dan Fegan -- who also represents Rubio.
That's no sign the relationship between the Timberwolves and Rubio will end the same way -- culminating in an eventual departure. But it's starting out in similar vein.
(Photo: Nathaniel S. Butler/NBAE/Getty Images)
Source:ESPN.com
Where exactly does Rubio stand if he doesn't sign with Minn? If he goes back to europe without signing a contract can he sign with any team next year, or does he have to sign a contract with Minn before playing in the nba? Or does Minn have to trade his draft rights to another team before he signs a contract?
