Rock Star: Supernova

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#1
So, they found a way to reprise Rock Star: INXS. This time it's gonna be about finding a lead singer for Tommy Lee's new band, Supernova...
 
#2
Wow, you thought the concept couldn't get any worse... but now, if you win the contest, you are doomed to sing for a band the will be marginally sucessful at best.
 
#3
Agreed. Why can't they just find another established band looking to find a lead singer, such as INXS last season? I heard it was going to be Van Halen this time around, but I guess that didn't pan out. And is Tommy Lee the only well-known person in this Supernova group? Ratings aren't going to be that great if so.
 

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No idea on the particulars. I saw a teaser for it last night...

And, quite frankly, I'm STILL not happy with the INXS choice. I saw them on some show not too long ago and their new lead singer - whose name I appear to have successfully blocked from my memory - is just not that good IMHO.
 
#5
No idea on the particulars. I saw a teaser for it last night...

And, quite frankly, I'm STILL not happy with the INXS choice. I saw them on some show not too long ago and their new lead singer - whose name I appear to have successfully blocked from my memory - is just not that good IMHO.
I saw them perform last Sunday at Day in the Zone. While JD will never replace Michael Hutchence, he was very good, even on the INXS classics. The only exception would be on the song, "Need You Tonight". I just don't think that anyone but Hutchence could ever sing that song right.
 
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CBS's ROCK STAR (working title) TO SELECT LEAD SINGER FOR THE NEW BAND -- SUPERNOVA -- FORMED BY DRUMMER TOMMY LEE (Motley Crüe) WITH BASSIST JASON NEWSTED (Metallica) AND GUITARIST GILBY CLARKE (Guns N' Roses)

New Lead Singer To Be Chosen From 16 Hopefuls When The Second Edition Of CBS's ROCK STAR Returns Summer 2006

New Album To Be Produced By Butch Walker (Rolling Stone Magazine's 2005 "Hot Producer Of The Year")

CBS and Mark Burnett Productions announced today that legendary musicians from some of the biggest American rock bands have joined forces to form a new band, Supernova, and will use CBS's ROCK STAR (working title) as the competition to determine the new lead singer.

Supernova will feature drummer Tommy Lee (Motley Crüe), Jason Newsted (Metallica) and Gilby Clarke (Guns N' Roses). The second edition of CBS's ROCK STAR will premiere on the Network this summer.

After the winning singer is selected on CBS's ROCK STAR, Supernova will record an original album, to be co-written and produced by Butch Walker (hit songwriter/producer for Avril Lavigne, Pink) that will be released in the fall before the band embarks on a world tour starting in early 2007.

"I've toured with both Gilby and Jason. They're incredible musicians and I've always wanted to play with them," said Tommy Lee. "Starting a new band with old friends on worldwide television is going to be a blast, and we're going to pull out all the stops to find the most charismatic and musically talented lead singer to front Supernova. I love breaking the rules."

Bassist Jason Newsted added, "This is a fantastic opportunity for me to play with guys I've respected for a long time. It gives us a chance to be innovators. This is a new thing. It's never been done before. We're going to break new ground musically and on television. The anticipation is building in me Lead guitarist and co-writer Gilby Clarke proclaimed, "Rock n' Roll is so alive and I'm so excited to be a part of CBS's ROCK STAR. This is television history. Where else can you raid three historic bands to form one great band? I can't wait for the summer to begin."

Butch Walker will join the project as co-writer and producer of the new album. Working with the dudes from Guns N' Roses, Motley Crüe, and Metallica sounds like nothing but trouble, so I'm in! I'm looking forward to whoever the new lead singer is going to be so the guys can start corrupting their mind..!"

Dave Navarro and Brooke Burke will return as hosts, with Burke returning to the stage for introductions and Navarro returning to the judges' couch for input and evaluations. "Last year, doing ROCK STAR: INXS was the greatest summer job of my life," Navarro affirmed. "This year, I'm on the couch with my friends Tommy Lee, Gilby Clarke and Jason Newsted as they choose Supernova's lead singer."

This summer's edition of CBS's ROCK STAR will also feature some format twists with a different music celebrity or rock legend each week. Said Navarro, "Friends of mine, like Slash, Macy Gray, Moby and Rob Zombie, will join us and throw in their two cents about who should stay and who should go."

In the first season of CBS's ROCK STAR, rock sensation INXS found their new lead singer in Canadian heartthrob J.D. Fortune. Since the show, INXS has taken to the studio and the road, releasing their massive hit single "Pretty Vegas" and selling out every concert in their North American tour. Their new CD, "Switch," debuted in the Billboard Top 20, and is currently going gold and platinum in countries around the world.

"Millions dream of becoming a rock star...our show actually makes that happen," said Mark Burnett, creator and executive producer of CBS's ROCK STAR. "The winner of CBS's ROCK STAR will not only play in huge stadiums before sold out crowds, they will do it alongside legendary musicians from three of America's biggest, all-time rock bands who have sold a combined total of a quarter of a billion albums: Motley Crüe, Guns N' Roses and Metallica. Fronting Supernova is the ultimate rock 'n' roll dream and it's about to come true."

Tommy Lee rose to stardom as a founding member of Motley Crüe. One of the most successful rock bands in history, Motley Crüe has sold over 40 million albums while also becoming the poster boys of rock star decadence. Most recently, Lee released his third solo album, "Tommyland: The Ride," and announced a documentary project with award-winning filmmaker Bruce Sinofsky. His candid 2004 memoir, "Tommyland," landed on The New York Times best-seller list.

Jason Newsted is a six-time Grammy winner and was a longtime member of the legendary band Metallica, one of the most successful musical acts of all time (100 million albums sold worldwide). After his departure from Metallica, Newsted created the band EchoBrain and, in 2003, he began touring with Ozzy Osbourne while also playing bass for the iconic techno-thrash band, Voivod.

Gilby Clarke was the guitarist for the iconic rock band, Guns N' Roses (90 million albums sold), traveling on their legendary and infamous three-year "Use Your Illusion" world tour. He also worked with Michael Jackson, Lenny Kravitz, Jeff Beck, MC5 and on the Freddy Mercury Tribute Concert. He was a recipient of the MTV Video Vanguard Award.

Butch Walker is best known as the songwriter, musician and producer behind hit songs for Avril Lavigne, Pink, Bowling for Soup and for Tommy Lee's recent solo album, Tommyland: The Ride. His song "My Happy Ending" went to Number One for Avril Lavigne and was the key track in her nine-time platinum album "Under My Skin," leading to him being named by Rolling Stone magazine as "Hot Producer of the Year" in 2005. Pink's new album, "I'm Not Dead," features two Butch Walker compositions.

CBS' ROCK STAR is produced by Mark Burnett Productions. Mark Burnett, David Goffin, Lisa Hennessy, Dave Navarro, Tommy Lee and Carl Stubner are executive producers. Conrad Riggs and Eden Gaha are co-executive producers.

http://rockstar.msn.com/rockstar/supernova

reality tv couldn't get any lamer...

...and talk about taking the rock & roll outta rock & roll. reality tv is, in general, doing a disservice to music. i don't care if you can sing. it shouldn't take a voice and words for someone to enjoy a melody. music was never about singing. singing is only part of it. as a musician, this frustrates me. it's why i get all infuriated over people's obsession with american idol (AI excludes exceptional songwriters from its qualifying contestants, btw), and it's why i get even more infuriated over every copycat "reality" show that has followed in its footsteps. the first rock star reality tv series at least had a few creative nuances that american idol lacked (like allowing its contestants to write and arrange their own songs), but that certainly isn't enough to salvage all the damaged brain cells from watching these kinds of shows.

/end rant. sorry if i offended anybody out there in tv-land.
 
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Thanks for the article, Padrino...

The people who will watch this show aren't your hard-core rock and roll fans anyway. And if they are, their tastes in music aren't going to be swayed.

One line of your "rant" did make me laugh, however:

...isn't enough to salvage all the damaged brain cells from watching these kinds of shows...
Are you saying only people with damaged brain cells watch? Or are you saying that watching damages the brain cells?

I ask because one could argue that even being a hardcore rock and roll fan has, most likely, caused irreparable harm.

:p
 
#8
Are you saying only people with damaged brain cells watch? Or are you saying that watching damages the brain cells?

I ask because one could argue that even being a hardcore rock and roll fan has, most likely, caused irreparable harm.

:p
lol

yes...that statement could be classified as ambiguous. i have nothing to say in response, really. i'm at a loss. ;)

and yes, being a fan of music, in general, has caused me irrepairable harm. you should see my cd collection and subsequent collection of concert stubs. that's a lotta $$$....just gone. not to mention my hearing, which will certainly fade a bit sooner than average. all in all, small sacrifices to make for what i consider to be my greatest passion. :)
 
#9
Wow, Supernova is like a rock'n'roll third-string bench squad.

What are some other bands that:
1) Need a lead singer and
2) are willing to whore themselves out for a reality TV deal?

Let's think...

Van Halen would do it.
who else?
Fuel? Do they need a new singer?
Nirvana? No, unless they (he) were looking for a replacement drummer too.
Sublime would do it if anyone remembered who they were and if they could remember what happend fifteen minutes ago.
Oasis would do it in two-shakes of a whiskey glass.
Who else? Can anyone think of any more?
 
#10
Wow, Supernova is like a rock'n'roll third-string bench squad.

What are some other bands that:
1) Need a lead singer and
2) are willing to whore themselves out for a reality TV deal?

Let's think...

Van Halen would do it.
who else?
Fuel? Do they need a new singer?
Nirvana? No, unless they (he) were looking for a replacement drummer too.
Sublime would do it if anyone remembered who they were and if they could remember what happend fifteen minutes ago.
Oasis would do it in two-shakes of a whiskey glass.
Who else? Can anyone think of any more?
this one isn't fair. oasis is still a band together. they haven't even had that much turnover as a band (changes in drums, bass, and rhythm guitar over the last 10 years, though not all at once). noel and liam gallagher are both the principle songwriters, and while they're typically at each other's throats, there's never been an oasis album recorded without one of the two brothers. not to mention they've always had a "**** you, we're just gonna rock everybody's pants off" kinda attitude. i could never see them doing reality tv. there's enough drama as it is between noel and liam at an oasis show. no need to take it to television. ;)
 
#12
Weren't there rumors floating around that Chris Daughtery of American Idol was going to be offered the lead for Fuel?
he pulled out, according to 98 rock. he seems to think he can do better solo. i mean, fuel is only a multi-platinum rock band. an american idol contestant surely can sell as many records off their own name recognition. :rolleyes:

in all honesty, i don't know the whole story. but it did sound to me like daughtry was more interested in pursuing a solo career than he was in becoming the front man for a rather successful late 90's alt rock act. of course, fuel is hardly the same without brett scallions (lead vocals), and the band also parted ways with their drummer a coupla years back because of internal disputes. still foolish of daughtry to turn down the two remaining members of fuel, who are very talented musicians in their own right. the name "fuel" would probably remain, but without scallions and the original drummer, the band would hardly be the same. they'd sell a ton of records off of chris daughtry hype and fuel name recognition, and at the same time, it would be a whole new creative venture, the fuel that many remember for "shimmer," "sunburn," and "hemorraghe" long since gone.
 

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Okay, way too much information. I wouldn't be able to tell Fuel from the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. My rock and roll roots are stuck in the ancient past. T-Rex, Ten Years After, Aerosmith, Iron Butterfly... Now that's hardcore rock n roll.

;)
 
#14
Okay, way too much information. I wouldn't be able to tell Fuel from the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. My rock and roll roots are stuck in the ancient past. T-Rex, Ten Years After, Aerosmith, Iron Butterfly... Now that's hardcore rock n roll.

;)
heh...music is what i do. i can't help myself. i don't even like fuel that much.

as for your rock & roll roots, you should expand your horizons. considering the bands you mentioned, you'd be surprised at what you'd like from bands in the last 10-15 years.

in other news, i'll be reviving my music thread in the near future because i have a few more '06 albums to review. everybody look forward to that! ;) :p
 
#15
So I say to myself that I have no interest in watching...but find myself watching anyways:eek:

There were some hits....and some real misses.

Who I really liked:

Josh: I love everything about him. The kid has style and enough soul to save a madman. Yet, you've got to wonder if he fits in with what the band wants, which seems to be something that I find myself asking with alot of these contestants.

Dilana: She was awesome. Fabulous stage presence and performance.

Lukas: Great way to end the show, plus anytime you can make Billy Idol sound cool gets a thumbs up from me.

Who was ok-enough to notice:

Toby: Bob Dylan song, enough said.

Storm: Knows how to work the stage and crowd

Who I did not like:
Magni, Ryan, Chris: Sounded like bad karoke

Jill: Yelling or letting out a big scream doesn't make you a rock star

Jenny: An impossible sell.
 

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#16
Storm is a local fave in the pdx, I liked her singing but hated her moves. The only others that stood out in a good way for me were Dilana and Lukas. And I was ready to bring the hate out for Lukas.

Josh is just not roit for Supernova. Not that he sucks, that's just not what I call "soul" but even if I did its the wrong sound for this band.

The only two I thought absolutely sucked were Chris and Phil. Jill and Jenny don't really have a place in this contest either but I'm sure they'll keep Jill around for a few weeks like INXS did with the chesty one on that show.
 

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I like Storm and I think Supernova did, too...

A number of the hopefuls showed promise but I don't think they're anywhere near ready to front a major rock band.

I think I'll just watch and see what happens for a few weeks before I form any real opinions other than I think Storm is the early favorite for the women and Lukas for the guys.
 
#18
I like Storm and I think Supernova did, too...

A number of the hopefuls showed promise but I don't think they're anywhere near ready to front a major rock band.

I think I'll just watch and see what happens for a few weeks before I form any real opinions other than I think Storm is the early favorite for the women and Lukas for the guys.
one of the big differences i see between these two editions of "rock star" is that the "band" seeking auditions for a lead singer isn't really a major band at all. they're just a bunch of guys who came together spontaneously. they'll sell records and sell out stadiums based on the popularity of the show, not previous musical endeavors. INXS had been around a while, and i'm sure they still plan to be around for awhile. for the rock star hopefuls this time around, its a real crap shoot whether "supernova" will remain a band for very long. it is, of course, exposure regardless, but these supergroups tend not to last very long.
 

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We're talking about different things.

I just wasnt' that impressed with the talent level of some of the hopefuls. I called Supernova a "major rock band" more because of the talent, not because of how I think they'll do in the long term...
 
#20
We're talking about different things.

I just wasnt' that impressed with the talent level of some of the hopefuls. I called Supernova a "major rock band" more because of the talent, not because of how I think they'll do in the long term...
i haven't watched the show yet, but i'm sure you're right, and the hopefuls are not that impressive. looking at the individual contestant profiles that the show's website has released, my guess is the producers of the show are shooting for "look" as opposed to "voice." i was just piggybacking your post and commenting on the assumption that it probably makes little difference in the long term how much talent these people have, because the "supernova" project is unlikely to last very long, and my guess is that it is not supposed to last very long. it will run its course through the duration of the show, and afterwards it will ride on the hype and the success of the show until people lose interest (which usually means when the next season of american idol begins). then my guess is the founding "members" of supernova will move on to different things (i think tommy lee has ADD or something), and the winner of the show won't be left with much. i just think its kind of sad for the hopefuls that they're more or less walking into a ticking timebomb.
 

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You need to watch the show to understand what I'm saying. A couple of those hopefuls looked so starstruck I thought they were going to rush over to Tommy Lee and ask for an autograph.

Even if the winner only gets a short period of fame, it's more than they have right now. Success is always fleeting and a whole lot of bands never even get the exposure the hopefuls had last night. I don't think any of them really expect to still be part of Supernova down the road... It's a big step up on the competition, however.

A lot of the American Idol contestants have had decent careers, even if they didn't win.
 
#22
You need to watch the show to understand what I'm saying. A couple of those hopefuls looked so starstruck I thought they were going to rush over to Tommy Lee and ask for an autograph.

Even if the winner only gets a short period of fame, it's more than they have right now. Success is always fleeting and a whole lot of bands never even get the exposure the hopefuls had last night. I don't think any of them really expect to still be part of Supernova down the road... It's a big step up on the competition, however.

A lot of the American Idol contestants have had decent careers, even if they didn't win.
hahaaa....then i indeed won't be tuning in. starstruck enough to ask for tommy lee's autograph? what for? glorified toilet paper?

;)

and yes, any success for any of these hopefuls is better than anything. it just would be nice to achieve success on one's own terms. at least then you have the security of knowing you deserved that fame, however fleeting it may have been. but that's my soapbox. i've taken issue with reality tv and the opportunism it breeds many times before. and dammit, reality tv appears to be here to stay, so i'll probably be fighting the good fight a whole lot more down the road. :)
 

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But there's the problem. "Achieving success on one's own terms" has forever changed. The days of struggling to cut that first record, to find your way to Nashville or LA or even Detroit have been replaced by producing your own demo CD, posting it on various sites online and hoping for the best.

Don't you remember the movie "The Running Man"? It's set in the future and it basic foretold the emergence of "reality" TV to the exclusion of everything else.

;)
 

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#24
I was disappointed that the guys seemed mostly cut from the emo-mold, there wasn't one true hard rocker amongst them. The guys in RS:INXS were all appropriate for INXS but there should be some crusty long haired metal dudes in this contest. Although with that goofy looking producer they have maybe they're telling the truth that this won't be a metal album, but that's hard to believe knowing who's involved in the band. Anything to stay relevant I guess.

Did anyone else get the Michael McConaughy in Dazed and Confused vibe from Jason Newstead when he was talking to the youngest girl?
 

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#25
Really not impressed tonight. Chris' attitude was weak and Lukas is a major headcase.

I am beginning to believe they're just letting the guys think they have a chance. They're gonna go with a female lead just to shake things up. If they do, I still think Stormy has the edge.
 
#26
I didn't think the show was all that bad. Talent was lacking on what I watched tonight but entertaining in it's own niche. OH and great job by having it follow BB, otherwise I would have never tuned it in.
 

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It was lacking in talent but wasn't all that bad? ...

I guess I'm just old-fashioned or something. I actually expect contestants who have been picked from the masses to possibly become the new lead singer of a band to have talent.

Silly me.

;)
 

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#28
I think the people on Rockstar by and large blow American Idol away but most of these peeps still bore me. I can't believe Matt chose Duran Duran, how effin-stupid do you have to be to do that, especially after doing Coldplay and being told to "rock".

Chris transformed from emo-boy to Scott Stapp overnight (or a week since the first show is taped). His LA Woman was pretty weak and he should have gone home but Matt saved him with his song selection.

Lukas seriously bugged me. Which is depressing, because I rooted for JD last season and I didn't want to root for someone like that this season but the guy is pretty much the complete package despite being a freakshow.

I hate facial piercings so even though I think Dilana is slightly better I'm going to root for my "home"town girl Storm.

The worst part of the show was that there was no catch phrase for the elimination. Rockstar isn't Rockstar without "You're just not roit for our bend, ..." Maybe when they boot the Aussie guy they can bring that back?
 
#29
It was lacking in talent but wasn't all that bad? ...

;)
That did not come out right, gotta give me a pass on my Monday at 03:00, I was tireeed. :D

It should of read, I thought the talent was just okay but the show was entertaning. It's a genre I listen too now and then but am no expert. However I did stay at a Hol....
 

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I think the people on Rockstar by and large blow American Idol away but most of these peeps still bore me. I can't believe Matt chose Duran Duran, how effin-stupid do you have to be to do that, especially after doing Coldplay and being told to "rock".

Chris transformed from emo-boy to Scott Stapp overnight (or a week since the first show is taped). His LA Woman was pretty weak and he should have gone home but Matt saved him with his song selection.

Lukas seriously bugged me. Which is depressing, because I rooted for JD last season and I didn't want to root for someone like that this season but the guy is pretty much the complete package despite being a freakshow.

I hate facial piercings so even though I think Dilana is slightly better I'm going to root for my "home"town girl Storm.

The worst part of the show was that there was no catch phrase for the elimination. Rockstar isn't Rockstar without "You're just not roit for our bend, ..." Maybe when they boot the Aussie guy they can bring that back?
I think Lukas is just a little too far out there. And he ain't earned the right to look down on the rest of the hopefuls, IMHO. I hope Tommy Lee or even Dave eventually reminds him of just who he isn't... a successful rocker.

;)