I was just curious how everyone felt about musselman now?! once it was announced rick adelman was not going to be the kings head coach any longer many kings fans felt as if their hearts were ripped out... everyone complained and talked about how many victories he had in his past. well guess what, musselman has arrived in sac and he is here to stay. hes got players like bibby playing good defense, and the kings just look like a fluid quick team. when adelman was the coach the kings looked slow and lost on the court. i am very impressed in what musselman has done with this kings and how he realizes defence is the key to the kings being a great team. i know we have only had 1 game but i feel musselman really preaching defense to this team and they are responding. unlike they did in the adelman days!
Rick Adelman Anyone???
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I like how open Muss is with the media. This guy sure is a breathe of fresh air, not trying to disrepect Adelman, but Muss is the guy the Maloofs always wanted a community guy that worked good with the players, management, fans, etc and Muss sure is not disappointing us in this regard. Adelman was very reserved and quiet which was good and bad, mostly bad for what the Maloofs wanted in a coach, but the guy did win and have a great record here in Sacramento. Muss has big shoes to fill, but I like what I see very early on by him making public appearances, going to eat with players and doing things with them to know them personally etc.
The guys on the team really like his hard work ethic and getting to know them on a personal level. I'm really encouraged by this, he has also learned from his GS days to push, but know when to back down to that should be good in getting the most out of his guys all the way down the line. I feel he'll also use his guys a lot more than Rick did.
I wish Skinner survived last year, because we could really use a guy like him this year!!! Can we get him back???
The guys on the team really like his hard work ethic and getting to know them on a personal level. I'm really encouraged by this, he has also learned from his GS days to push, but know when to back down to that should be good in getting the most out of his guys all the way down the line. I feel he'll also use his guys a lot more than Rick did.
I wish Skinner survived last year, because we could really use a guy like him this year!!! Can we get him back???
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Rick Adelman: roughly 400 career wins as coach of the Kings
Eric Musselman: 1 preseason win as coach of the Kings
And you lack so much perspective you choose to start this thread now? Nazr Mohammed started today for the Pistons. Wonder if he's got a "any questions"/what do you think of Ben Wallace now thread going over in Pistons land?
Here's what can be said about Eric Musselman after 1 preseason game -- so far, so good. That's about it.
Eric Musselman: 1 preseason win as coach of the Kings
And you lack so much perspective you choose to start this thread now? Nazr Mohammed started today for the Pistons. Wonder if he's got a "any questions"/what do you think of Ben Wallace now thread going over in Pistons land?
Here's what can be said about Eric Musselman after 1 preseason game -- so far, so good. That's about it.
I think that about says it all - so far.
Rick Adelman and Eric Musselman are completely different types of coaches, on and off the court. We can look forward to good things with Musselman but for someone to somehow feel this negates in way what Adelman did, as evidenced by this kind of statement - "i feel musselman really preaching defense to this team and they are responding. unlike they did in the adelman days!" - is just without merit...or substance.
Rick Adelman and Eric Musselman are completely different types of coaches, on and off the court. We can look forward to good things with Musselman but for someone to somehow feel this negates in way what Adelman did, as evidenced by this kind of statement - "i feel musselman really preaching defense to this team and they are responding. unlike they did in the adelman days!" - is just without merit...or substance.
OMG this is what I was afraid of.
Leave it be... Rick was a great coach for us and almost brought us to the finals. He is not here lets not compare. Two totally different styles not to mention completely different rosters.
Brick nailed this one... nice post
Honestly I liked it better when mods on this forum could ban people at will. This is not a case of different opinions its just another thread to try and start up some crap.
Leave it be... Rick was a great coach for us and almost brought us to the finals. He is not here lets not compare. Two totally different styles not to mention completely different rosters.
Brick nailed this one... nice post
Honestly I liked it better when mods on this forum could ban people at will. This is not a case of different opinions its just another thread to try and start up some crap.
It is WAY too early to be deciding if Muss is a BETTER coach than Rick.. Brick said it right that they are apples & oranges when trying to compare the two...Rick was a GREAT coach for the Kings- I just think after all these years players just started tuning him out..
Muss is just a new coach, whos making a solid effort in communicating with our guys and getting them to believe in his system.. He's done a great job so far and lets hope he continues to keep these guys motivated..
And I'll believe that Bibby can play defense when its April... I'm still not used to hearing "BIBBY" and "Defense" in the same sentence!
Muss is just a new coach, whos making a solid effort in communicating with our guys and getting them to believe in his system.. He's done a great job so far and lets hope he continues to keep these guys motivated..
And I'll believe that Bibby can play defense when its April... I'm still not used to hearing "BIBBY" and "Defense" in the same sentence!
I agree with everyone so far!
I agree that Adelman was good for the team we had 5 years ago. He's the greatest coach in Sacramento Kings history and should always be honored as such until someone beats his records set for victories! Bless him whereever he may end up!
Musselman seems to be the right fit as someone to take the Kings into a new era. I think he'll be successful and I think the Maloofs and Petrie have given him a team that he can have success with.
As far as comparing the two...right now there's no comparison. Adelman's numbers are in his favor, but that's unfair to Musselman because Muss is a lot younger and hasn't had near the amount of games coached to even compare numerically.
Let's just appreciate and honor the great Kings of the past, and support the Kings of the present and future. Comaprisons will only cause more stress and hostility than we actually need around here.
Let's jsut put it to rest now! Go Kings!!!
I agree that Adelman was good for the team we had 5 years ago. He's the greatest coach in Sacramento Kings history and should always be honored as such until someone beats his records set for victories! Bless him whereever he may end up!
Musselman seems to be the right fit as someone to take the Kings into a new era. I think he'll be successful and I think the Maloofs and Petrie have given him a team that he can have success with.
As far as comparing the two...right now there's no comparison. Adelman's numbers are in his favor, but that's unfair to Musselman because Muss is a lot younger and hasn't had near the amount of games coached to even compare numerically.
Let's just appreciate and honor the great Kings of the past, and support the Kings of the present and future. Comaprisons will only cause more stress and hostility than we actually need around here.
Let's jsut put it to rest now! Go Kings!!!
I don't think he is trying to stir up stuff at all, it is just that when Adelman was let go everybody, meaning the majority was very upset, saying how can we let a guy who has over 750 wins go for a guy who has never had a season over .500%. People bashed the Kings, and their choice of hiring, while I said yea he has over 750 wins, AND OVER 400 WINS AS A KINGS COACH, but in the end what has he ever won? The offense only approach that many people liked, just did not work in the postseason as evidenced by Adelmans record/Kings record in the Regular season vs. the postseason.
It is very apparent in only one preseason game the difference in styles/approaches that the 2 kings coaches had. If you can't notice that difference then you have rose tinted goggles on. It is very apparent the Kings pressure all 94 feet, they contest more shots, they don't give up easy layups, and he is willing to play more than just his top 6-8 players. Which in turn will lead to players not breaking down towards the end of season do to exhaustion, fatigue, and other syptoms related to his overworking of the Starters under Adelman. In the end all I want is a successful Kings season, as do all of you, but I am very very glad we have a defense 1st mentality, rather than an offense 1st mentality. Not trying to stir up anything, that is just my opinion.
It is very apparent in only one preseason game the difference in styles/approaches that the 2 kings coaches had. If you can't notice that difference then you have rose tinted goggles on. It is very apparent the Kings pressure all 94 feet, they contest more shots, they don't give up easy layups, and he is willing to play more than just his top 6-8 players. Which in turn will lead to players not breaking down towards the end of season do to exhaustion, fatigue, and other syptoms related to his overworking of the Starters under Adelman. In the end all I want is a successful Kings season, as do all of you, but I am very very glad we have a defense 1st mentality, rather than an offense 1st mentality. Not trying to stir up anything, that is just my opinion.
The point is people had every reason to be upset when Adelman left. It's natural. We "grieved" his loss and then, as is usual in sports, we welcomed the new coach.
The original poster took it into the "stirring stuff up" realm when he made the derisive and erroneous comments about Adelman, such as "hes got players like bibby playing good defense, and the kings just look like a fluid quick team. when adelman was the coach the kings looked slow and lost on the court..."
You (and BALLER4LIFE) are making a lot of conclusions based on one pre-season game, which is fine. What I strenuously object to is the hidden digs at Adelman. It's not necessary and, from my viewpoint at least, it's not fair.
Rick Adelman took the Kings to consecutive playoffs and the WCF. IF and WHEN Musselman does that, then maybe we can compare styles and results. Until then, any recriminations about how Adelman coached this team - keeping in mind some of the years with HORRENDOUS INJURIES - are without basis in fact.
I don't have rose-tinted goggles on. I've been a fan of the Kings since they first arrived in Sacramento. Was it time for a change? Probably. Does that in any way diminish what Rick Adelman did for us? No bleeping way.
I won't argue coaching styles and results based on a full career on one side and one pre-season game on the other. Let's see what happens when Musselman has to deal with some of the things Adelman faced. Let's see how he handles rotations when he's not trying to figure out which additional players have to be cut within the next couple of weeks.
Don't get me wrong. I'm excited about what Eric Musselman and the 2006-2007 Kings might do. I just don't have to knock Adelman down to build Muss up. Musselman will succeed or fail based not on how he compares to Adelman but how he can coach this current roster and future rosters.
The original poster took it into the "stirring stuff up" realm when he made the derisive and erroneous comments about Adelman, such as "hes got players like bibby playing good defense, and the kings just look like a fluid quick team. when adelman was the coach the kings looked slow and lost on the court..."
You (and BALLER4LIFE) are making a lot of conclusions based on one pre-season game, which is fine. What I strenuously object to is the hidden digs at Adelman. It's not necessary and, from my viewpoint at least, it's not fair.
Rick Adelman took the Kings to consecutive playoffs and the WCF. IF and WHEN Musselman does that, then maybe we can compare styles and results. Until then, any recriminations about how Adelman coached this team - keeping in mind some of the years with HORRENDOUS INJURIES - are without basis in fact.
I don't have rose-tinted goggles on. I've been a fan of the Kings since they first arrived in Sacramento. Was it time for a change? Probably. Does that in any way diminish what Rick Adelman did for us? No bleeping way.
I won't argue coaching styles and results based on a full career on one side and one pre-season game on the other. Let's see what happens when Musselman has to deal with some of the things Adelman faced. Let's see how he handles rotations when he's not trying to figure out which additional players have to be cut within the next couple of weeks.
Don't get me wrong. I'm excited about what Eric Musselman and the 2006-2007 Kings might do. I just don't have to knock Adelman down to build Muss up. Musselman will succeed or fail based not on how he compares to Adelman but how he can coach this current roster and future rosters.
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Unless Musselman brings a championship, and even though it's not completely for sure, there isn't much Musselman can do better for the Kings than what Rick did...This team needed a change, Musselman is a young ambitious coach. I like what I'm seeing, but they are two seperate coaches, from seperate times, with seperate players. They are not comparable, and anything that will be done from now on can't be compared to Rick. They are seperate entities and in no way reflect upon eachother. End of story
Plain and simple Rick was a great coach he did great things for this team. It was just time for a change. Usually its the coach first in this case we lost our superstar first and started rebuilding then the coach went. All in all Musselman may be the man to change the teams dynamic only time will tell but, I like what i see so far.
^^Why talk to you at the end of the year?
If Musselman has a successful season, it still won't detract from what Rick Adelman accomplished during his time here. And if Musselman bombs, it won't make Adelman's stats any better.
Rick Adelman is the past. Eric Musselman is the present - and hopefully the future. Until Musselman has as many years under his belt as Adelman, comparing their careers is just a little silly, IMHO.
If Musselman has a successful season, it still won't detract from what Rick Adelman accomplished during his time here. And if Musselman bombs, it won't make Adelman's stats any better.
Rick Adelman is the past. Eric Musselman is the present - and hopefully the future. Until Musselman has as many years under his belt as Adelman, comparing their careers is just a little silly, IMHO.
He asked how we all feel about Muss. I was just answering that question.
Basically my stance is wait until the end of the year, than ask how I feel about Muss. Mayyyybe mid season if we are kicking some butt. But until then yah, I don't feel anything for Muss yet until he actually coaches some regular season games. You can't even put him in the same boat with Adelman right now. Not by a long shot.
Basically my stance is wait until the end of the year, than ask how I feel about Muss. Mayyyybe mid season if we are kicking some butt. But until then yah, I don't feel anything for Muss yet until he actually coaches some regular season games. You can't even put him in the same boat with Adelman right now. Not by a long shot.
VF21 wasn't trying to be mean or anything. Hope you didn't think it came out that way. I should have explained better in my first post. I read through my explanation and it sounded a bit rude. Sorry about that! Wasn't intended that way at all.
I think we're in full agreement on one thing...
We're excited for the real season to start!!!!
GO KINGS!!!!!
