andI don't think you can support that assumption at this point. Moving Bibby for expirings and Shelden Williams was the stereotypical type of move you usually associate with rebuilding.
Trading a highly paid, upper-echelon PG for expiring contracts and a young player is exactly the kind of move rebuilding teams make. Giving Martin his extention was probably a reason for it but this trade, or 1 very similar, was inevitable
Actually, if memory serves, I believe Kenny Thomas' problems started when we acquired SAR. Wasn't it then that Thomas made his fateful "I have to start" comments?
For the first time, the Maloofs actually used the term "rebuilding" towards the end of the 2007-2008 season. Regardless of what may or may not have gone on before, they - the owners of the team - are now pretty much on the same page as those who wanted the rebuild (nothwithstanding that they wanted it to start earlier).
we're going to rebuild. It's going to take a while. You can beat your chest and wail in dismay that it wasn't done earlier, or you can actually look forward to seeing what changes can/will be made.
It's not going to happen overnight.
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The Kings own success in the early part of the decade was not the result of a high draft pick turning into a franchise player, but instead was the product of a number of smart trades and free agent signings.
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actions speak louder than words. if the maloofs were seriously looking at rebuilding they would've yanked reggie to the side and demanded he play the younger players or requested geoff make the necessary moves to rebuild. none of which really happened.
My great aunt that raised me used to say that " IF " is for children. You can only deal with what is, not what might have been. By the way, I remember that at the time we were thinking of tradin Webber, most of the pundits were saying he was untradable because of his huge contract and his gimpy knee's. To think that we could have gotten more for him is simply dreaming. Petrie tried to break his contract down into smaller pieces he could move. It worked except for KT.. Who would have thought..
whats sad is that our stay at the top was extremely brief. we went from "building" for more than a decade, then up and coming playoff team for 2-3 years, then at the top for 2 years, and now we are rebuliding. oh well, at least this rebuilding team is really competitive unlike a lot of the others.
point in case.. it worked except for KT.
While its better for the fans, being competitive while rebuilding is actually hurting us. Instead of having a top 5 draft pick, we have to settle for 10th or worse
Coangelo, if thats how his name is spelled, said at the pre-draft camp that there will be players in this draft that are taken in the second round that will be better than some of the players taken in the top ten. Especially with the bigs.. So choose wisely.
As was pointed out by someone else on the board, Billy Owens a #3 lotto pick was parlayed into the Rock, who in turn was parlayed into Webb.
(3rd)Billy Owens >>> (5th)Rock + (9th)Thorpe >>> (1st) C-Webb
So technically it did take a high pick (Owens) to get to that championship contending level. If it can be done without a high draft pick it would take some amazing low draft picks which Petrie has a history of making (KMart, Peja, Hedo and Hawes IMO looks to have a brighter future than bigs taken prior to him s.a. Noah, Wright, Jianlan).
That is a huge stretch IMO.
That is not a huge stretch, it is a direct progression. And the key to the direct progression is talent, or perceived talent. A high pick is so incredibly valuable it can net you, either directly, or via trade, a level of talent that you otherwise can almost NEVER acquire.
We have had two great franchise leading players, both were the direct result of a single high draft pick. If we are not drafting #3 that year, but #10 or #12, there is no way on God's green earth that any team is going to trade us a player of Mitch Richmond's caliber for a late lottery pick. If we do not have a player of Mitch Richmond's caliber, there is no way on God's green earth that any team is going to trade us a player of Chris Webber's caliber. And of course if we do not have a player of Chris Webber's caliber...there is every way that every team in the league would still have been happy to dupe us into Kenny Thomas.
High draft picks in the NBA might very well be THE single most important asset you will ever acquire. Certainly in a rebuild. People fight it and fight it and fight it, but they are the lifeblood of the league. In every system there are always keys and weaknesses to exploit. In the system of the NBA, those picks are the key.
Well, according to that logic, almost every trade made in the NBA could be somehow tied to high draft picks.
And yes, high draft picks are valuable. But they aren't the ONLY assets that get traded around. The key is to have assets, where draft picks are only one of the kind. Expiring contracts are also assets. Proven talent is also assets.
Well, according to that logic, almost every trade made in the NBA could be somehow tied to high draft picks.
And yes, high draft picks are valuable. But they aren't the ONLY assets that get traded around. The key is to have assets, where draft picks are only one of the kind. Expiring contracts are also assets. Proven talent is also assets.
I think the more draft picks we get the better. I still can't believe K9 Thomas is just sitting on his chair all summer, he could be in the mix, and he is a game changer. If he boosts his trade value, it could lead to a game-breaker trade, mid next season. I.E. Ron and K9 for Anthony Parker and Jorge Garbahosa and Jamario Moon + filler and one 2nd round picks.
Not sure if this is a good subject for my first post, but it never hurts to try and bring in a young proven talent in a trade while using the draft to rebuild. This is what the franchise needs. K Mart is a good young talent to build around. As we all know, one way or another they need to do something about the PG and PF positions. Also looks like Ron isnt going anywhere unless we somehow sign and trade him.
We don't need to sign him. It appears he isn't opting out, so he would be under contract. Not sure if there's a waiting period to trade him after he decides not to opt out..
Not sure if this is a good subject for my first post, but it never hurts to try and bring in a young proven talent in a trade while using the draft to rebuild. This is what the franchise needs. K Mart is a good young talent to build around. As we all know, one way or another they need to do something about the PG and PF positions. Also looks like Ron isnt going anywhere unless we somehow sign and trade him.
i was a pretty big kevin martin fan when he began in the league. but he's not as good as i thought he would be.