NewArena
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This is important. Anything can happen lol i just hope a team like the Mavs doesn’t get the ultimate prize
Race to the Bottom thread
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I'm so pumped our fans want to intentionally throw games! Makes this place THAT much more enjoyable to keep coming back to!
Very few games this year were "vets only" wins. I distinctly recall a contingent here pissed when Devin Carter went off for 20+ in the 2nd half and said we should have benched him to lose that game vs Indy.
Yeah DDR+Russ ball was incredibly annoying and they carried a few wins. They also carried a BUNCH of losses and were basically a main component of why this team was where it was.
Max was 17-10 from March 1st on. Should he have been benched during some of the bigger games he had? Should we have pulled Carter amidst his huge scoring surge in that Indy game? Just fully kill the last sliver of confidence that kid might have? Nique dropped 23-6-5 on 16 shots vs NOP. Tell him to take a hike? Or when he dropped 20-6-6 on 14 shots vs GS? Same thing?
I've been fully on board with turning this to the kids WAY sooner than we ended up doing. But people acting outraged when we win a game with the kids playing extremely well is just par for the course for a few here. I might respect your stance if you just come out and say they should have intentionally thrown the game, at least you wouldn't dance around your take.
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"BUT THE 2 VERY OBVIOUS TOP 5 PICKS, HE'S THE DRAFT GOD"
Seems like we've won about 80% of the coin flips we've been in over the last decade. Can't win 'em all.We can't even win a damn coin flip. SMDH
I'm not 100% on this, but I think if we jump Utah in the Lottery then Utah's second round pick will slip in front of ours. But if that happens, we won't care, I promise.
Well at least Utah’s pick won’t convey to OKC, not yet anyway. They already have the Clipper’s lottery pick, im not sure about the protections on that one, and the 76ers pick around 17.
Their own pick goes to Dallas. Amazing how many first round picks they have accumulated.
I also think we have won the majority of tiebreakers over the years. I’m not too fussed, it might mean the difference of Acuff vs another possibly better PG, but I expect a trade or two in the summer which could alter our fortunes as much as the pick.
Their own pick goes to Dallas. Amazing how many first round picks they have accumulated.
I also think we have won the majority of tiebreakers over the years. I’m not too fussed, it might mean the difference of Acuff vs another possibly better PG, but I expect a trade or two in the summer which could alter our fortunes as much as the pick.
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Kingster
Hall of Famer
The highest probability of getting Ben McLemore, Jason Williams, Bobby Hurley, Walt Williams or Lionel Simmons. Of course beloved Killian Hayes was also a 7th overall pick. Woo woo!
coolhandluke
Starter
What the hell? On the first try today at Tankathon 
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
The funniest possible outcome for tanking discourse lol
The pacers doing what they did all season just to lose their pick would be must see TV
You guys need to stop spinning the Tankathon simulator, you're using up all of our luck.
HndsmCelt
Hall of Famer
I think for some folks it’s like a Tibetten prayer wheel
MizzouKing
Starter
It would help spread the karma, as Utah is still mad at Sacramento for tanking Jimmer's path to superstardom... having to give us AJ might rip a hole in the space-time continuum starting in downtown Salt Lake City.
Wait, what? Is this actually a thing? Utah had the third overall pick that year and we took Jimmer 10th. If they really wanted him they could have drafted him at #3 or traded down. It's not like there was a ton of "can't miss" talent in that 2011 draft either. They took Enes Kanter and ended up trading before the end of his rookie contract.
I don't they're mad about us drafting him, but rather made with us "ruining his career. Nevermind that he had peaked in college like a Texas high school FB player.
Do you think they blame us for the USA 3v3 Basketball team headlined by Jimmer going 0-3 in the Paris Olympics too?
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
They probably blame us for Jimmer even being on that team in the first place instead of his rightful place on the actual men’s team roster.
MizzouKing
Starter
All true, but apparently there is quite a bit of resentment in some quarters. There was an article out in the last couple of days that I ran across and I was surprised too.
MizzouKing
Starter
Seems like alias "D.A. Sweat" is just one particularly disgruntled BYU fan who writes for a BYU Sports Blog and a Carolina Panthers blog. Jimmer also played for Chicago, New Orleans, New York (Knicks), and Phoenix and didn't impress in any of those stops either. Even as a Sacramento Kings fan, there's a part of me that doesn't want any of these players to get saddled with our dysfunctional organization. Which makes it a rather lazy article to write. Team is bad and has been bad for awhile and also, a previous BYU star went there and had a disappointing career. Okay. If AJ Dybantsa is as good as many of us think he is, it shouldn't matter which team drafts him.
I know you're just posting this argument, not making it yourself, so I'm not responding to you so much as the concept posed by this article in general. It merits little more than an eyeroll. This writer doesn't seem to know anything about any of our players aside from what the internet told them. And surely a similar resume of ineptitude could be compiled for the other 4 or 5 teams most likely to end up with Dybanta.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Agents are probably a little more at ease with the Kings since they started to play the young guys, but no, ain't a single agent hoping their guy goes to the Kings and a few will without question play games to make sure they don't go to Sac. The recent use of Carter alone probably did some damage. Ellis as well.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
They also trust Scott Perry (looooong time front office exec) and BJ Armstrong (ex-agent) more than they do past front offices (*coughcough* Vlade)
MizzouKing
Starter
Which means we'd better hit this year, because next year the Small Market Penalty kicks in and we won't have much hope of building via the draft anymore.
I guess it's just as well that we've sucked building via the draft anyway, right?
Insomniacal Fan
Starter
The Option 1. proposal only mentions flattening the odds for the #1 pick. It's unclear how the odds for picks 2-5 will be affected, and in my mind those picks are still worth targeting.
But yeah, I'm not a fan of Option 1. I like Option 2 (lottery position determined by 2 year moving average)
Unless they're doing something really different than the current setup, the odds for all the lottery-selected picks will be based on the number of combos that a team has, so the odds (for teams 1-10) would be flat all the way down as far as they draw.
There was talk of drawing every single pick between 1-18 but I don't remember if that is part of Option 1, or if they would still intend to do that.
Insomniacal Fan
Starter
It seems like the appeal of Option 1 to the NBA is because it's the most boring option. It's the least creative way to address tanking.
sactowndog
Hall of Famer
A trained monkey could do a better job than Silver.
Not quite a return to the "dog-eared envelope" days, but it's close. I guess the silver lining would be that the odds of drafting in the top 4 should go up for teams finishing in what was formerly known as no man's land, a favorite landing spot of our beleaguered franchise. The negative would be that there's no way to mitigate against bad luck. Instead of complaining about this franchise hardly ever landing a top 3 pick we may instead be complaining about them hardly ever landing a top 6 pick. Even so, you still need to make the right picks wherever you're seeded and we haven't been particularly good at that either.
Angelo127
Bench
Why not just scrutinize more in regards to how teams are running their team.
Tanking means you're doing something and the team is performing worse than it should actually be performing.
Why can't you just investigate more into what the team is doing. Medical reports, idk, Statistics, isn't there some metric that can enlighten.
And if teams are tanking strip away their draft pick. It's as easy as that.
Tanking means you're doing something and the team is performing worse than it should actually be performing.
Why can't you just investigate more into what the team is doing. Medical reports, idk, Statistics, isn't there some metric that can enlighten.
And if teams are tanking strip away their draft pick. It's as easy as that.
