Joshyjosh31
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With the bottom 3 teams having the same odds what’s the difference in finishing since you just want to be bottom three not necessarily the worst
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With the bottom 3 teams having the same odds what’s the difference in finishing since you just want to be bottom three not necessarily the worst
MizzouKing
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Yeah, the odds are the same. The only benefit to being the very worst is that you're guaranteed to get no worst than the 5th pick in the draft.
MizzouKing
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It has to do with cloning and the DC multiverse, it's all very hush hush...
Insomniacal Fan
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Do you have a source for the graphic?
At the moment it kind of seems like you just posted slop
HndsmCelt
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It’s AI man, so don’t expect accuracy
HndsmCelt
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The flipside that is that if you have the very worst record, your pick can only get worse
sactowndog
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And draft order in round 2
I mean... sure. But then we probably shouldn't be drawing conclusions from "facts" which are not facts. Hence my deeply rooted suspicion of all things AI.
HndsmCelt
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You and me both my friend
Here's the results since the odds changed:
Funny how the Pistons fell to 5th three years in a row, and twice from 1st!
Funny how the Pistons fell to 5th three years in a row, and twice from 1st!
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Our odds are slightly better than that though since we finished in a tie with Utah. These are the updated odds and there's still a chance we swap pre-lotto places with Utah whenever they do the coin flip. It hasn't happened yet.
I'm undecided if I actually want to win the coin flip. The 5th slot seems to have historically done better than the 4th spot. Yes, slotting in at 5 lowers our floor slightly with a slim chance of picking 9th, but winning 1-4 is what actually matters here.
Kingster
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So who are we going to get with the 9th pick?
Apparently a 4x all-star with how everyone is playing up this draft.
sactowndog
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The pre-lotto odds are split. The coin flip is our place if neither are in the top 4
I understand how the odds work. This has come up before so this may be like the 20th time we've had this same disagreement. In my mental conception of how the draft lottery works, because the hopper is stuffed with numbers not team names and the number combinations are assigned to teams based on lotto seeding, and because the four number combinations drawn out of the hopper are what actually determine the draft order, that means TO ME that we won't actually know if we "won" the coin flip until after the number combinations are drawn and we see if any of those number combinations correspond to the 4th slot or the 5th slot.
You're going to argue that those two events (the coin flip and the lotto draw) have nothing to do with each other so we can win one without winning the other. And I disagree. I don't really want to write another essay about quantum physics so we can agree to disagree on this point.
