Race to the Bottom thread

Padrino said:
Domantas Sabonis, Zach LaVine, and De'Andre Hunter are all out for the rest of the season. Keegan Murray is out and will be reevaluated in two weeks. The Kings are losers of 17 of their last 20 games, and they remain in last place in the entire NBA. Whatever they needed to do to ensure their tank, they've already done it. They've lost with the vets getting big minutes. They've lost with the kids getting big minutes. They've lost by leaning on the vets in crunch time. They've lost by leaning on the kids in crunch time. That they've managed the extremely occasional win is nothing more than a byproduct of the fact that the ball bounces in basketball. Sometimes it's gonna go your way; even the worst teams can't lose them all. It's just insanity to act as some of you are, as if the Kings are committing a grave sin of self-sabotage by winning 2 out of every 10 games, when a .200 win percentage is already Worst in the League™ stuff in an average NBA season.
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Preach, my brother! 🤣
 
ShastaKingsFan said:
Would you plan ahead or make any sort of adjustment in how this is managed going into the last 20 games, if you thought there was a chance that a guaranteed top 5 pick, could be a difference of 1-2 games? or just let the chips fall where they may, because they've lost the most in the first 62 games?
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They've literally.done that since mid-feb. Basically whenever Carter got to start playing.

Now, they took way too long to implement the switch, but they clearly have. And theres a game here or there where Russ and DDR shoot too much. But it's been the young guy priority over that span.

Do you disagree? If we take that frame (Carter first game back in rotation to now), what would you change then to make tanking better?
 
Padrino said:
Domantas Sabonis, Zach LaVine, and De'Andre Hunter are all out for the rest of the season. Keegan Murray is out and will be reevaluated in two weeks. The Kings are losers of 17 of their last 20 games, and they remain in last place in the entire NBA. Whatever they needed to do to ensure their tank, they've already done it. They've lost with the vets getting big minutes. They've lost with the kids getting big minutes. They've lost by leaning on the vets in crunch time. They've lost by leaning on the kids in crunch time. That they've managed the extremely occasional win is nothing more than a byproduct of the fact that the ball bounces in basketball. Sometimes it's gonna go your way; even the worst teams can't lose them all. It's just insanity to act as some of you are, as if the Kings are committing a grave sin of self-sabotage by winning 2 out of every 10 games, when a .200 win percentage is already Worst in the League™ stuff in an average NBA season.
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I saw on Twitter that a few thought Precious was too good to play in a tank.

Like.... the guy who didn't have a job the first 3 weeks of the year? That everyone passed on for a minimum salary?
 
The_Jamal said:
They've literally.done that since mid-feb. Basically whenever Carter got to start playing.

Now, they took way too long to implement the switch, but they clearly have. And theres a game here or there where Russ and DDR shoot too much. But it's been the young guy priority over that span.

Do you disagree? If we take that frame (Carter first game back in rotation to now), what would you change then to make tanking better?
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I already stated it to you. I wouldn't close with any of the experienced veterans from this point through the last game. Will it make a difference? Of course nobody knows, but that's the odds I would go with, if the goal is younger player experience and to win as few games as possible to close this season
 
The_Jamal said:
I saw on Twitter that a few thought Precious was too good to play in a tank.

Like.... the guy who didn't have a job the first 3 weeks of the year? That everyone passed on for a minimum salary?
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This is an odd highlight from you. Never judge a player's impact, based on a clear failure of evaluation by someone else.

We all have seen that Achiuwa is a pro's pro and a quality player
 
ShastaKingsFan said:
Again, I wouldn't close games with any of the experienced vets, regardless of their age. If I wanted to have the best chance to win some games with this roster and situation, I'd start him and have him in there to close.
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Yeah, if he’s been the best player on the floor and a walking mismatch in the game, I’m not sure the minutes and closing would be there in Indiana
 
KingsRUs said:
Yeah, if he’s been the best player on the floor and a walking mismatch in the game, I’m not sure the minutes and closing would be there in Indiana
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Right, of course not. Indiana is a high iQ organization that manages the details closely. The Kings on the other hand...well, we know the story
 
ShastaKingsFan said:
Again, I wouldn't close games with any of the experienced vets, regardless of their age. If I wanted to have the best chance to win some games with this roster and situation, I'd start him and have him in there to close.
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Who should have closed then? Who's LEFT to close that fits your criteria?
 
sactowndog said:
Indiana loses to Memphis by 20. The other teams around us are not going to lose. We play Indiana in a couple games.
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The NBA needs to just take away Indiana's pick and give it to the Clippers now. Trading a first round pick with 1-4 and 10-30 protections mid-season and then doing their best to lose out the rest of the season is like all 4 seasons of "The Process" crammed into 3 months. They are flaunting the rules and it's probably going to ruin the draft for everyone.
 
hrdboild said:
The NBA needs to just take away Indiana's pick and give it to the Clippers now. Trading a first round pick with 1-4 and 10-30 protections mid-season and then doing their best to lose out the rest of the season is like all 4 seasons of "The Process" crammed into 3 months. They are flaunting the rules and it's probably going to ruin the draft for everyone.
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We can either whine or make sure we get the Lin.
 
hrdboild said:
I'm not talking about what happens with this year's draft. I'm talking about next year when the NBA might take away the draft entirely or severely alter the lottery in a way that does not work out well for Scott Perry's multi-year rebuild because of what Indiana is doing.
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Got it. March 4 is going to be interesting. Indiana @ Clippers. Clippers have major incentive to hand Indiana a win. They need to deal with protections on picks first. That drives a lot of the current tanking for Indiana, Utah and Washington.
 
Doug playing the starters 30+ in hopes of winning detrimental games I see.... (didn't watch)... I just don't see any way, unless he's reigned in, that the Kings won't beat some lesser opponents and finish 4th to 5th (luckily, I think we are too bad, even with Doug trying to win, to get out of the top 4 odds for the top of this draft)
 
I'm going to laugh my *** off if we tank to get the worst record, fall to #5, and then he stays in college and we lose out on all the top picks. All this misery and we'd still fail.

www.deseret.com

AJ Dybantsa says he 'might not leave' for the NBA after this season

In an interview with the "Deseret Voices” podcast, Dybantsa shared that he hasn’t completely shut the door on staying in college.
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Warhawk said:
I'm going to laugh my *** off if we tank to get the worst record, fall to #5, and then he stays in college and we lose out on all the top picks. All this misery and we'd still fail.

www.deseret.com

AJ Dybantsa says he 'might not leave' for the NBA after this season

In an interview with the "Deseret Voices” podcast, Dybantsa shared that he hasn’t completely shut the door on staying in college.
www.deseret.com www.deseret.com
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It’s 2026 this has been said by nearly every pick since 2000
 
Warhawk said:
I'm going to laugh my *** off if we tank to get the worst record, fall to #5, and then he stays in college and we lose out on all the top picks. All this misery and we'd still fail.

www.deseret.com

AJ Dybantsa says he 'might not leave' for the NBA after this season

In an interview with the "Deseret Voices” podcast, Dybantsa shared that he hasn’t completely shut the door on staying in college.
www.deseret.com www.deseret.com
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Acuff, Philon, and Brown have all been having some big games recently. I don't think it's necessarily going to be as top 5 or bust as it looked at the beginning of the season. Drafting yet another small guard as our one and only lottery pick would probably still set off a wave of Kings fan despair though... so your point still applies.
 
ESP47 said:
We'll be in the running for him next year too.
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Not if the league goes through with a revision to the draft lottery to prevent teams from getting top picks two years in a row. And even if we do, we'd have to hit #1 to get him next year (from what everyone says about the weakness of next year's draft). He might not go #1 this year.
 
Warhawk said:
And for the Kings it has sometimes been true. It seems that we sometimes fall to one pick later than the "good" picks (except Luka, of course, then we were just too stupid to make the right choice).
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Stop thinking negatively until it happens

Flagg literally said the same thing last year he’s not staying in college unless BYU offers him something ridiculous like 30mill for that one year
 
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