Vlade4GM
All-Star
we need to start some sort of petition calling for a rebuilding process and basically showing the maloofs that we want this done and forgive all past mistakes. think that would work?
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we need to start some sort of petition calling for a rebuilding process and basically showing the maloofs that we want this done and forgive all past mistakes. think that would work?
kennadog
Dog On It!
No and not asked about it. They've already said its for personal reasons.
thatguy
Bench
I'm not going to disagree with what you are saying, but that is a little bit of a slippery slope.
6th
Homer Fan Since 1985
Kingzrool
Starter
I heard somewhere that he just had a baby girl.
6th
Homer Fan Since 1985
The Kings want his expiring contract.
nbrans
All-Star
Score one for the front office!!
One thing this has gotten me thinking about, though...
Adelman, for all his faults, was excellent at getting players to perform at their maximum potential much of the time -- perhaps even above it. Guys rarely looked better anywhere else than they did in Sac.
That is definitely not happening under Muss. "Overperforming" is not even in our vocabulary now.
I wonder... blowing the team up does not guarantee that the new roster would better fit Muss' style. Blowing up the roster is also not going to make Muss any better of a coach.
While not seriously questioning the idea that we need to do some rebuilding, I am wondering whether there is any realistic possibility of our assembling a roster which Muss can win with. It would be a pity to replace a bunch of guys, then have them all underperforming and looking just as discouraged as our current bunch.
Can a rebuild work if the coach isn't going to be trusted and respected by the players, whoever they may be? Or would we only manage to drive another dozen guys off a cliff?
Adelman, for all his faults, was excellent at getting players to perform at their maximum potential much of the time -- perhaps even above it. Guys rarely looked better anywhere else than they did in Sac.
That is definitely not happening under Muss. "Overperforming" is not even in our vocabulary now.
I wonder... blowing the team up does not guarantee that the new roster would better fit Muss' style. Blowing up the roster is also not going to make Muss any better of a coach.
While not seriously questioning the idea that we need to do some rebuilding, I am wondering whether there is any realistic possibility of our assembling a roster which Muss can win with. It would be a pity to replace a bunch of guys, then have them all underperforming and looking just as discouraged as our current bunch.
Can a rebuild work if the coach isn't going to be trusted and respected by the players, whoever they may be? Or would we only manage to drive another dozen guys off a cliff?
6th
Homer Fan Since 1985
Bill Nef and Napear are arguing right now. It's the agent vs the the redheaded pineapple.
I thought that the redhead wooped the agent's a**
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Vegas actually would be about gambling my friend. And if you want to get down to the nit and grit of it, about scammers stealing money from the pockets of losers. New York is about winning. And at all costs. There is a difference.
As for the Maloofs not being around during the 90s -- part of the problem. They lack all perspective and understanding that things don't magically all work out just because it says MS&E on the cover.
SLAB
Hall of Famer
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Im truely hoping that is just an agent blithering anything to defend his client...Because if that is true, I am totally pissed at the team.
nbrans
All-Star
Wait, why? The Kings don't have any use for Flip Murray, and it's a sign that they're actually conscious about building some cap room this season.
I think it's more a question of whether or not the Maloofs have a really solid grip on the realities involved. Whatever they do, they are going to lose some fair weather fans. The only questions are how long it will be dragged out, and what sort of team they will have when it's over. The team is being rebuilt, and the process will either complete itself in a planned and deliberate way, or it will happen as a long series of accidents.
ReinadelosReys
Starter
One of my favorite GP used proverbs " Victory has a thousand fathers but defeat is an orhpan"
And thats exactly the situation we have here with the Kings, everyone is point fingers at everyone else, from the players all the way up to the front office.
Bibby: Hey, its not me its those guys over there who need to stop worrying about their shots
Miller: Hey its not me its the about the wrong numbers and plays being called
Musselman: Hey its not me, I only do what the bosses tell me to
Geoff: Hey its not me, my hands are tied.
And then you have Ron Artest who is just in a world all his own. Its really no wonder the state the Kings are in today =/
And thats exactly the situation we have here with the Kings, everyone is point fingers at everyone else, from the players all the way up to the front office.
Bibby: Hey, its not me its those guys over there who need to stop worrying about their shots
Miller: Hey its not me its the about the wrong numbers and plays being called
Musselman: Hey its not me, I only do what the bosses tell me to
Geoff: Hey its not me, my hands are tied.
And then you have Ron Artest who is just in a world all his own. Its really no wonder the state the Kings are in today =/
most_casual_observer
G-League
LA King Fan II
Bench
As we wander around the waiting room waiting for them to take the squad off life support I can't help but reflect...
Who hurt the notion of great Kings basketball worse - Robert Horry or Bonzi Wells?
Who hurt the notion of great Kings basketball worse - Robert Horry or Bonzi Wells?
most_casual_observer
G-League
This is rhetorical as I know you are already aware that you never fire "the team", you always fire the coach. This team is underperforming with Muss, therefore, Muss should go.
Elise10
Starter
Easy.....Horry!
Bonzi and later on down the Ron gave it a temporary reprieve but still that shot set off the moment it all went downhill
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Actually disagree there -- we were going to win the title the NEXT year. That shot hurt for a while, but hell we were one FT from winnign the series anyway. And then the next year we were the behemoths, most talented team in the NBA. So deep. Ravaged by injuries and yet just rolled anyway.
Horry robbed us of a title. But the period of Kings greatness ended the night Webb crumbled down on that endline. Fractured everything.
Elise10
Starter
Agreed, just the choices were between Robert Horry.........................and Bonzi Wells
chelle
Starter
LA King Fan II
Bench
I suppose I used Bonzi, because I think there was a chance the Kings could have chased #4 seed kind of respect. We had an advantage, an edge and a style. It was potentially still very entertaining based on the end of last year. When he left we were no longer a playoff team.
IMO we were one player away from contending.
IMO we were one player away from contending.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
A whole lot of talk about the Maloofs "playing GM", does anybody have any evidence other than circumstantial of course that this is what's going on right now?
If the Maloofs are saying they should play the young guys that tells me thay may be the ones wanting to rebuild if there even is anyone in the organization wanting to rebuild.
Petrie always struck me as a guy very against rebuilding.
If the Maloofs are saying they should play the young guys that tells me thay may be the ones wanting to rebuild if there even is anyone in the organization wanting to rebuild.
Petrie always struck me as a guy very against rebuilding.
