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The Kings are not ready to win a title yet. Not this year, not next. But they are blossoming before our eyes here as a young team who may one day be a major factor, and I was off looking at some stats today. A couple of things leaped out:

1) Rebounding. For years and years and years and YEARS rebounding has been a bugaboo for this franchise. Much of that was because we simply refused to play fullsized frontcourt players, and when we did have a fullsized guy, most of the time they were glued to the floor. Well that all changed. We now start one of the bggest frontcourt rotations in the league in Dalembert, Cousins and Thompson, and the results show. On the season the Kings are 3rd in the NBA in rebounding. 3rd. Us. At 43.9rebs/game. Only Chicago and Minnesota grab more. If you want to go reb differential, we are 4th, with only Chicago, Orlando, and the Lakers ahead of us. Furthermore we have been completely dominating since the Landry trade. In March we have had two guys average double doubles (cousins at 16.2pts 10.3reb Dalembert at 11.3pts 11.0rebs) and Jason has come off the bench for 8.5pts 7.5rebs. Meanwhile we just came off a game where we had two guards grab more than 10 themselves. In the last 10 games we have completely dominated people, leading the entire league in that time with 48.1rebs/gm (nobody else is close, Orlando is second at 45.5) and outrebounding teams by 9.5rebs a game. We are huge and we are battering people in there. Us, the Sacramento Kings. We should think long and hard before we give that away/break that up in the offseason.

2) Passing. All season long, and even before, a concern has been there about where would the passing come from. A vocal contingent has long advocated acquiring a pure PG. On the season we are only 25th in the league in assists, at 20.2 ast/gm. But again, look what has been happening. In the month of March our assist totals have shot up to 22.2 ast/gm, good for 10th/11th in the league, and just ahead of the Lakers and Chciago totals on the season. Thronton has turned out to be a willing ball mover, we have gotten a huge boost by beginning to run the old Princeton stuff with Cousins, who is leading all NBA bigs in assists since the break with 4.3 a game, Dalembert has surprised with his passing ability, and Reke has come back to us using his penetration to set people up as often as he finishes himself. We've had no single mega-assist player, but Beno has given us 6.0ast, Reke 5.7ast in limited minutes, Cousins 4.3, Thornton 3.6, and wasn't that the way it was back inthe golden era when Bibby/Christie/Vlade/Webb all divied up the duties? This too has accelerated in the last 10 games, and in particular since Reke's return. In the last 10 games we are averaging 23.3ast. In the last 5 games 23.7ast. With a few steadying moves over the summer, could we already have our passing answers in town?
 
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No. Unless by some miracle they remain in this town the passing/rebounding problems have been solved for Anaheim.
 
2) Passing. All season long, and even before, a concern has been there about where would the passing come from. A vocal contingent has long advocated acquiring a pure PG. On the season we are only 25th in the league in assists, at 20.2 ast/gm. But again, look what has been happening. In the month of March our assist totals have shot up to 22.2 ast/gm, good for 10th/11th in the league, and just ahead of the Lakers and Chciago totals on the season.

You mean they played team ball the month Evans was out?
 
And last night's game I think had the most assists and guess who led the team in that category in limited minutes?

See how long it lasts before he's dribbling out the shot clock. It started already in the 4th quarter last night. Thorton was pissed the ball movement stopped the possesions before his 3 pointer.

His quote after he made the shot "Pass me the dam ball"
 
See how long it lasts before he's dribbling out the shot clock. It started already in the 4th quarter last night. Thorton was pissed the ball movement stopped the possesions before his 3 pointer.

His quote after he made the shot "Pass me the dam ball"
What you're speaking about is a real concern of mine. I hope Tyreke can make the change and learn to play that game. He hasn't yet but I think he will try because he has seen what can happen if you/everyone moves the ball.
 
I think we should trade Evans for Martin so we can please section 101. My heart goes out to him, he's gotta suffer through watching Evans play basketball for 7 months a year.
 
I think we should trade Evans for Martin so we can please section 101. My heart goes out to him, he's gotta suffer through watching Evans play basketball for 7 months a year.

Or trade for the rights of Ricky Rubio to appease the others.
 
Is there no room to look for necessary improvement in Tyreke's play? I don't want to get rid of a talented player like that but I do want him to improve. What's this "trade him" business? If is going to play point guard he needs to improve so this bunch of Kings can continue doing what they have lately.
 
Is there no room to look for necessary improvement in Tyreke's play? I don't want to get rid of a talented player like that but I do want him to improve. What's this "trade him" business? If is going to play point guard he needs to improve so this bunch of Kings can continue doing what they have lately.

I have no doubt he'll improve. Heck, as is, he is a pretty damn good basketball player as is. Some people just hold personal grudges against the guy. I was just trying to be funny about it.
 
I have no doubt he'll improve. Heck, as is, he is a pretty damn good basketball player as is. Some people just hold personal grudges against the guy. I was just trying to be funny about it.

Thanks. I appreciate your note. I have no grudge against our Tyreke but his absence has laid bare some of his deficiencies as a point guard. With our three guards we have a great combo especially if Tyreke adjusts well as he is trying to do.
 
Thanks. I appreciate your note. I have no grudge against our Tyreke but his absence has laid bare some of his deficiencies as a point guard. With our three guards we have a great combo especially if Tyreke adjusts well as he is trying to do.

My hope is that he will unleash the defensive beast I know that lies in him. He has defensive player of the year type skills if he expends more energy on defense since he doesn't have to carry the load as much anymore. I think he can be a really good PG in this league. Sometimes we forget that he hasn't been a point guard that long. He played SF in high school and played half a season as PG in Memphis. If he becomes a 17 5 reb 8 assist guy, I'll be happy.
 
My hope is that he will unleash the defensive beast I know that lies in him. He has defensive player of the year type skills if he expends more energy on defense since he doesn't have to carry the load as much anymore. I think he can be a really good PG in this league. Sometimes we forget that he hasn't been a point guard that long. He played SF in high school and played half a season as PG in Memphis. If he becomes a 17 5 reb 8 assist guy, I'll be happy.
Add, and we win, I'll agree.
 
To address the topic, I DO think most of the problems have been solved. The team never rebounded well and this is novel. People are sharing the ball and the horrors some people predicted would happen when Tyreke returned hasn't shown up. There will be a time in a game where his type of play will be welcome.

There is one hole and it can be plugged without a trade. I thought the demands on a new SF would also mean that he had to be a shooter. Now we don't need a shooter except at typical NBA caliber. Thornton expands the number of players that can help this team.

Trade talk makes me real nervous except I have to remind myself no one here effects the team. The team is doing fine and now we discuss shuffling off players to other teams. I don't understand the restlessness. Let these guys have a few weeks together and then let's see what happens. There seems to be an assumption that some people cannot learn and adjust.
 
You mean they played team ball the month Evans was out?

I thought it was adorable that Brick left that fact out in his assessment.


And problems are not solved. The Kings aren't riding their young stars to this improvement, but seeing two guys in contract years (Dalembert and Thornton) step up their play at the end of the season. People should be wise enough not to trust that same sort of play after those guys get their money.
 
I thought it was adorable that Brick left that fact out in his assessment.


And problems are not solved. The Kings aren't riding their young stars to this improvement, but seeing two guys in contract years (Dalembert and Thornton) step up their play at the end of the season. People should be wise enough not to trust that same sort of play after those guys get their money.
Thorton isn't in a contract year. He's only a sophomore in the league.
 
Thorton isn't in a contract year. He's only a sophomore in the league.

I believe he's a restricted free agent since he was only a 2nd round pick last year. We'll throw a qualifying offer his way and then chose to match if a team throws money at him. Barring a max contract offer, they should match.
 
I thought it was adorable that Brick left that fact out in his assessment.


And problems are not solved. The Kings aren't riding their young stars to this improvement, but seeing two guys in contract years (Dalembert and Thornton) step up their play at the end of the season. People should be wise enough not to trust that same sort of play after those guys get their money.

Oh no, I was trying to be nice to the comically sad little group of haters, and not mention that since Tyreke got back we're averaging 25.8 ast/gm, which would be #1 in the entire league. Figured that might be more than you could handle.

By the way our assists have gone up month by month:

Nov: 17.5
Dec: 18.8
Jan: 21.2
Feb: 20.2
Mar: 22.2 (21.0apg w/o Reke; 25.8 with Reke)

You should know better than to troll around in one of my threads. If I didn't have the numbers to back it up I would not start it.
 
Thorton isn't in a contract year. He's only a sophomore in the league.

A sophomore who is averaging about 20ppg in his career when given starters minutes.

Meanwhiel Daly is a 7 year starter in the league who has averaged a double double before for an entire season. But yes this is all new and merely contract related. If you don't actually like the Kings or their personnel and hope that they fail that is.
 
I thought it was adorable that Brick left that fact out in his assessment.


And problems are not solved. The Kings aren't riding their young stars to this improvement, but seeing two guys in contract years (Dalembert and Thornton) step up their play at the end of the season. People should be wise enough not to trust that same sort of play after those guys get their money.

What? Dally has played like this for close to a decade, just a few more scoring opportunities here. And what history are you going on with Thornton? He hasn't even played 2 years. He's just in a much better situation, and anyone who understands the game can see his talent isn't a fluke.

It's absolutely asinine of you to make character judgements like that relating to a guy who hasn't played 2 full years, and another who has played like this his entire career.

If you're going to troll, at least do us all a favor and attempt to use a little logic. Shouldn't be that hard.
 
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What? Dally has played like this for close to a decade, just a few more scoring opportunities here. And what history are you going on with Thornton? He hasn't even played 2 years. He's just in a much better situation, and anyone who understands the game can see his talent isn't a fluke.

It's absolutely asinine of you to make character judgements like that relating to a guy who hasn't played 2 full years, and another who has played like this his entire career.

If you're going to troll, at least do us all a favor and attempt to use a little logic. Shouldn't be that hard.

Dalembert's Career Averages: 8.1 pts, 8.3 rpg, 1.9 bpg
Dalember w/ Kings Averages: 7.8 pts, 7.7 rpg, 1.5 bpg

If anything, he's regressed, and we shouldn't lock him into any sort of contract. Diminishing skills, and what not. ;)
 
Oh no, I was trying to be nice to the comically sad little group of haters, and not mention that since Tyreke got back we're averaging 25.8 ast/gm, which would be #1 in the entire league. Figured that might be more than you could handle.

By the way our assists have gone up month by month:

Nov: 17.5
Dec: 18.8
Jan: 21.2
Feb: 20.2
Mar: 22.2 (21.0apg w/o Reke; 25.8 with Reke)

You should know better than to troll around in one of my threads. If I didn't have the numbers to back it up I would not start it.

^^^To quote the biggest rock-star from Mars ever, Mr. Charlie Sheen... "Duhh... winning".
 
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Dalembert's Career Averages: 8.1 pts, 8.3 rpg, 1.9 bpg
Dalember w/ Kings Averages: 7.8 pts, 7.7 rpg, 1.5 bpg

If anything, he's regressed, and we shouldn't lock him into any sort of contract. Diminishing skills, and what not. ;)

Yeah really. He's played fewer minutes, missed training camp and had a slow start, and has a great rebounder Cousins next to him. His stats could easily be better. But I guess none of that applies when your main objective is trolling, or your mom dropped you on your head as a baby.
 
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