[Grades] Preseason Grades v. Lakers 10/25/12

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Boxscore

Stats: 24min 9pts (4-7FG, 1-4TP, 0-1FT) 3reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO 2fl
Johnson ( C ) -- quiet start, and not able to hit the long jumpers that were left to him. Able to score on an iso post move late in the first after Metta left, and folowed it with the buzzer beating runner to finish our 30pt first quarter. Later added an alley opp on the break from IT. Defensively was actually less proiminent this time than any of the other starters -- there was no Kobe to harass, defending Metta is no great task most nights, and this game I actually felt he was getting beat when switched onto the big Lakers frontline. After the fun first few drive and post preseason games, seems to have fallen back offensively, but is still potent in a mismatch, and if we can get this type of game from our stars he doesn't need to do much more for us to be dangerous.

Stats: 28min 12pts (4-9FG, 0-0TP, 4-4FT) 5reb 3ast 2stl 2blk 2TO 3fl
Thompson ( B ) -- not much to start, but began to get involved defensively in the latter half of the first quarter, and got a hoop on a scramble play on the semibreak . Struggled to work in the post where he's never been a strong option and still gets stripped or fumbles routinely. But he smoothly stroked a jumper, and was playing garbageman around the hoop. Unuusally active picking up steals and blocks on defense as all our starters got the job done on that end, and capped things with a nice unselfish return pass to Reke on the break.

Stats: 27min 20pts (9-17FG, 0-1TP, 2-2FT) 13reb 1ast 2stl 0blk 1TO 2fl
Cousins ( A- ) -- halfway through this game you would have said Boogie was struggling, yet by the end it was another big night. Was looking good early hitting from outside and able to bang inside, but quickly lost focus, chucking up yet another random three and committing two completely unnecessary fouls on Gasol just riding his hip. Had to sit, and after returning threw up a ridiculous 20 foot step around fall away prayer over Howard. But started to settle in, got the 4th foul on Howard the next time on a driv, and while my initial not was that the traffic and twin 7 footers chased him outside and he started settlgin for jumpers, that turned out to be a good thing. Started hitting 18 footers. And hitting them. And hitting them. Very few centers can get as hot as he can from outside, and it was just jab step, splash for the entire second half of the game as he was raining long jumpers on everyone they put in front of him. And while most of those few centers who can shoot like Boogie can are weenies in the other aspects of the game, once DeMarcus started feeling it his whole game picked up, and he dominated the boards after half. After killing the Lakers scrubs in the 4th for a few minutes to give our shaky bench some punch, sat down with a cool 20-13 in 27min.

Stats: 23min 14pts (4-10FG, 1-1TP, 5-6FT) 5reb 5ast 4stl 0blk 0TO 2fl
Evans ( A- ) -- probably Reke's strongest game of the preseason, and now is of course when you would like to see him cranking it up. Was very involved on both ends of the court from the beginning. But int he early going it wasn't about his own offense, as it was rarely there against the Lakers big frontline, and Reke wasn't forcing it. Instead grabbing rebounds, setting people up, making a nice pass to a backcutting Johnson etc. The "finally! hallelujah!" switch in this game is that we had Reke doing much of the creating while IT played more off the ball as a scorer. But once again, in what has become a distinct enough pattern it can't be accident, once Cousins went out Reke kicked it into another gear and began to very aggressively size his man up and slam inside again and again. Still wasn't all about his own shots though, as he also notched a very nice assist off his iso dribble to Hayes inside. Got called for several called for several illegal defenses cheaitng into the paint, but was picking up loose balls all over the court and igniting our break the other way off the turnovers. Capped his night with a pickpocket of his man up top to start the fourth, and finished the play with an unselfish dish to IT for the layup.

Stats: 23min 20pts (9-12FG, 1-2TP, 1-1FT) 1reb 1ast 2stl 0blk 0TO 1fl
Thomas ( A- ) -- consider the above Kevin Martin after an all night bender statline, and then consider that IT did exactly what he needed to do as our "PG" this evening. From the beginning of the game was playing off the ball more than on, but was doing it very well, getting out on the break, curling and popping open for quick hitters, and being disruptive up top around the ball on defense. One of the Lakers numerous weakpoints is quikcness/defense at the PG, and IT was running circles around the two Steves all night as we let Reke do the creating, and IT do the scoring. Finally got his first assist with a nice alley oop to JJ in the late 3rd. Closed the game in unfortunate fashion as Reke got a steal up top to start the 4th, and dished it to IT on the break for his final points, but the little guy got undercut on the layup and took an awkward step, and had to leave the game.

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Bench

Stats: 27min 2pts (1-3FG, 0-0TP, 0-0FT) 8reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 1TO 2fl
Hayes ( C ) -- not as effective as he has been in many games this preseason, but that was largely about role and what the rest of the bench was not doing. Got his only bucket of the night soon after entering on a nice feed by Reke for one of his little flips. Added one of his slap strips on Sacre. But for most of the night when the backups were in and Cousins was out, we were just offensively impotent. Our gunning backcourters had no rhythm or chemistry, and Chuck's extreme offensive deficiencies got exposed as there was nobody to feed inside. Got his share of the boards, and added a nice give and go pass to Thornton in the late garbagetime, but we were offensively impotent during his minutes as the feautred big.

Stats: 25min 10pts (5-12FG, 0-3TP, 0-0FT) 1reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 0TO 1fl
Thornton ( D+ ) -- after starting the preseason very hot, over the final 3 games only ended up shooting a combined 12-36 .333. this time out not able to add much punch to a suddenly very punchless and dysfunctional bench crew. Very very quiet this time after coming in. Rarely getting the ball, smothered when he did. Finally just sored 1 on 1 taking advantage of the switch vs. Hill. Never got any sort of rhythm going, and ended up throwing up several really ugly attempts off the back or the underside of the rim. Began getting a little better in the late garbagetime, but these were 10 very forgettable scuffling points, and not much in any other category.

Stats: 25min 4pts (2-6FG, 0-1TP, 0-0FT) 0reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 2TO 1fl
Brooks ( F ) -- last time out against the Lakers torched them to the tune of 16 pts in 18 min This time out it was a real struggle throughout. The difference? Who knows. Really though prettty much a complete failure as either a backup PG or backup gunner this time. Wasn't given much to work with, as he spent a few minutes trying to feed some really terrible teammates in a Hayes/Outlaw/Garcia frontline...then said screw it and just thew it up 1 on 1. But he was struggling to create all night, for either himself or anybody else, and it was a primary cause of our terrible benchplay tongiht. Missing his shots. Making ballhandling errors, and probably reflecting on the difference between feeding Chuck Hayes and Ndiaye inside rather than Yao or Cuz. Fianlly got a nice drive to go with 40 seconds to go after running the clock down. That was not enough to keep this from being the whiplash F after the A last time out against this same team.

Stats: 10min 0pts (0-3FG, 0-0TP, 0-0FT) 0reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 0TO 3fl
Garcia ( F ) -- much better working in the shadows off stars. In a chaotic backup unit with no creaters, just throwing up junk. Quiet after most of the main guys returned.

Stats: 20min 2pts (1-6FG, 0-2TP, 0-0FT) 4reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 0TO 2fl
Outlaw ( F ) -- if anybody has seen Outlaw's game lying around in a ditch somewhere near Portland, he'd like it back. Continued his awful preseason still unable to hit the broadside of the Sierras. Missing all of his jumpers, and this time getting things further compounded by getting worked on defense -- not entirely his fault as Smart had him in there as part of our front office's idiotic conviction that he's the world's first 200lb PF, and Jordan Hill -- yeah that Jordan Hill -- was chewing him up in the post. Finally got a jumper to fall in the early 4th, and predictably he again had to blow the assist, pull it down, dribble to his spot, and throw it up Salmons style in order to feel comfortable. Can't just catch and shoot. That's gotta be a training issue from way back. If he gets minutes in the regular season after years of incompetence and shooting .273 in preseason, the fix is in.

Stats: 7min 1pt (0-1FG, 0-0TP, 1-2FT) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO 3fl
Ndiaye ( INC ) -- man, finally got some minutes in the 4th, and immediately got pulled way out of the air for big a fall on his back while going up for a dunk. Just puts a painful exclmation point on likely being cut. Did nothing after the fall. Battled but no more than held his own position. Losing the boards batttles. Did show a roleplayer's instincts coming out to set little freeing picks for his guards up top. But not able to finish inside or post, and while he tracked a few things on defense the way shotblockers will, never got to anything.
 
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Never wise to read to much into preseason, but can't help myself. If Smart can do a decent job managing this rotation I'm buying into this being a .500 team. He's got them playing hard on both ends and the talents there, he just can't out think himself. On top of that our style of play could be pretty damn entertaining.
 
yep i agree. high hopes if he does. please for the love of god Kieth, stick to a 8 or 9 man rotation and dont bench starters for 10 minutes at a time!
Got to have hope, just can't help but have flashbacks to last season. All the small ball, icing guys for no reason, and most blatantly his total mismanagement of Evans. He just seem to take the whole players coach thing a step to far and imo underestimates the importance of consistent rotations/roles. This isn't little league. We got a solid 9 man rotation, no reason to complicate things. Seeing the starting lineup tonight is a good sign though.
 
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Can't leave starters out so long that you lose them for the game due to lost rhythm and getting cold. It happened frequently last year. If you sit the entire 2nd quarter, while it's 12 mins on the clock it's usually about 30 mins in real time. Add in 15 mins for halftime and you've been out of the game for about 45 mins. I don't care who your are, you lose rhythm and tighten up. There's also the pissing off the players aspect.
 
Can't leave starters out so long that you lose them for the game due to lost rhythm and getting cold. It happened frequently last year. If you sit the entire 2nd quarter, while it's 12 mins on the clock it's usually about 30 mins in real time. Add in 15 mins for halftime and you've been out of the game for about 45 mins. I don't care who your are, you lose rhythm and tighten up. There's also the pissing off the players aspect.

Plus it never seemed to be based on merit. If your bench is rolling extending a few key contributors run is defensible. Smart would often leave the entire bench in for long stretches for reason beyond me, even when his starters had given him good minutes.
 
Can't leave starters out so long that you lose them for the game due to lost rhythm and getting cold. It happened frequently last year. If you sit the entire 2nd quarter, while it's 12 mins on the clock it's usually about 30 mins in real time. Add in 15 mins for halftime and you've been out of the game for about 45 mins
plus the fact that the players are about to get a 15 minute rest at half time, so why the hell rest them for so long in the 2nd quarter?
 
I think the key to our rotations is that one of DMC, Tyreke, or IT NEED to be on the floor at ALL times, they are our 3 best shot creators. If i liken it to soccer, some teams consist of 9 or so regular players that play their position and are able to function, then you might have 2 guys on the team that can break down a defense, maybe go around one or two defenders to open up space for the rest of the team or themselves. DMC, Tyreke and IT are those guys for us, Everyone else should be getting their shots off screens, cuts etc.

When that second unit comes in, i want them setting tons of screens for Thornton, don't really want to see Thornton in iso plays, he is much better as a catch and shoot/ cut and shot/drive.
 
I have no problem with MT in iso with the second unit. Most nights he's simple going to be outclassing his defender. Not that it should be the first option, but late in a possession or against a favorable match up you can let him gun. Same goes for Brooks to a lesser extent.
 
I have no problem with MT in iso with the second unit. Most nights he's simple going to be outclassing his defender. Not that it should be the first option, but late in a possession or against a favorable match up you can let him gun. Same goes for Brooks to a lesser extent.

MT iso late in the possesion is our best option if it comes to it for the second unit. However i saw some MT iso early in the shot clock tonight. Run him off some screens and if it comes to it let him do his thing.
 
I have no problem with MT in iso with the second unit. Most nights he's simple going to be outclassing his defender. Not that it should be the first option, but late in a possession or against a favorable match up you can let him gun. Same goes for Brooks to a lesser extent.

He's got the ability to just create his own shot, but it'd be best if we could create some easy baskets to get him in rhythm first. Thing is he's less of a playmaker than Terry/Crawford, but once he gets hot he can score like Crawford. Run some screens for him to get some easy shots, and then let him go 1 on 1 and if they double swing it over to Brooks/Jimmer for open 3s.
 
Looks like MT and Reke are returning to who they are as players. MT a one dimensional chucker who does nothing if his shots arnt falling, Reke doing it all.

Nice to Smart try the starting lineup we've all been clamoring for, as well as using Tyreke in a way that is conducive to his (and the team's) success.

Question is; will Smart actually do something as simple as sticking with what worked? Probably not, but we'll see...
 
MT a one dimensional chucker who does nothing if his shots arnt falling

i dont understand how people on here think this. do you guys watch the games? do u not see his passes and the way he rebounds for a guy his size. hes always hustling. he may take a lot of shots, but hell, he's the teams best shooter, why not?
 
Looks like MT and Reke are returning to who they are as players. MT a one dimensional chucker who does nothing if his shots arnt falling, Reke doing it all.

Nice to Smart try the starting lineup we've all been clamoring for, as well as using Tyreke in a way that is conducive to his (and the team's) success.

Question is; will Smart actually do something as simple as sticking with what worked? Probably not, but we'll see...

to be fair MT was playing with Garcia, Outlaw, Hayes and Brooks the whole night.
 
Hey Brick I just want to say thanks for doing these grades. It's my favorite part of visiting this board during the season.

I like the added stat line as well. Gives those of us who didn't see the game a better basis of why you gave them the grade you did.
 
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