Predict the WC & EC Standings
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Man didn't your parents teach you that eating those mushrooms growing in your back yard is BAD?
I think that because of what I've gathered on him for almost 2 years. Many various articles, interviews, and games. Thus have formed that conclusion, as how I feel about him "blowing up again". That's a question mark to you, not me. As already established, we feel differently there.
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TheJoker
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Kings113 said:
So you based you're conclusion on something you read on a article or heard on a interview? Ron Artest has always been a question mark player. he had his problems in Chicago and Indiana. with Ron it's never safe to say that he won't blow up there is a chance he will then he won't some time during his career in a Sacrmento uniform.
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Kings113 said:
You also forgot to include games in the material I listed.
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I know plenty about his past problems. I've followed the guy for awhile, and through out that time, I have naturally come across stuff related to them. For example, If i was assigned to do a report on a figure, and I chose a sports figure and I chose Ron Artest - I'd get a high grade.
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As I've already said, yup.
Did you even watch him to any significant degree before this past season?
Yes.... hes been a inconsistent jump-shooter pretty much his whole career but i think whatever we say it will be a agree to disagree debate me and you are never suppose to agree its impossible
Well, I didn't say for his career.
So, in 04-05, he wasn't a good jumpshooter?:
http://www.82games.com/04SAC12A.HTM
http://www.82games.com/04PHI10A.HTM
03-04 and 02-03, no, he wasn't.
Not the best with that site, but I think that shows he was good. And aside from that, I remember him hitting that j a lot.
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Gargamel
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Prolly gonna be similar to how last year rounded out. If Amare's healthy, Phx wil prolly take the conf -- they are built for the reg season. Whatever Houston or Utah does remains to be seen. Wake me when injuries haven't impacted their season. Clipps should be around a 5/6 seed again. Grizzlies may be in danger if either team does suprise. Denver's a wildcard, their season could be screwed w/ personal issues. Sacto prolly ahead of NO and LAL. I think NO gets nudged if Utah and Houston both have lucky seasons injury wise. I'm not sold until they prove me wrong -- young team.
Phx, SA, Dallas, LAC, Hou (I'll go w/ them to have least injuries), Sac, LAL, Grizz/Utah/NO.
Phx, SA, Dallas, LAC, Hou (I'll go w/ them to have least injuries), Sac, LAL, Grizz/Utah/NO.
Gargamel
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Depends on how the pieces mix, but I would put them on more solid ground than HOU or Utah. You can't ever trust McGrady or Kirilenko to be fully healthy.
I don't see NO that high though. Right now they look good on paper, but they are young and relatively inexperienced (save for Stojakovic). There's been young up-comers who've had good seasons followed by less than stellar ones. I'd expect Sacto to jump that high before NO does (assuming Gasol's injury really derails Memphis for a month or two).
TheJoker
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Hornets probably have to hope for Injurys to make the playoffs, yes they have upgraded but that doesn't mean things will go concrete on the Basketball court. and i agree with Gary the Kings will be around the 8th seed and considering we haven't done much at all this off-season the expectation should fighting for the low playoff seeds 7th or 8th.
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nbrans
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No idea how the East is going to shake out except that it's going to be Miami and the also-rans, regardless of who has the best regular season record. Chicago still has holes and Detroit lost Wallace, making the gap between Miami and everyone else even greater.
In the Western Conference (by W/L record):
1. Mavs
2. Spurs
3. Suns
4. Clippers
5. Kings
6. Nuggets
7. Lakers
8. Jazz
Outside looking in: Rockets, Hornets, Grizzlies, T-Wolves, Warriors in that order.
I'd say #3 best record is the best case scenario for the Kings, out of the playoffs the worst case. Who knows what will happen.
In the Western Conference (by W/L record):
1. Mavs
2. Spurs
3. Suns
4. Clippers
5. Kings
6. Nuggets
7. Lakers
8. Jazz
Outside looking in: Rockets, Hornets, Grizzlies, T-Wolves, Warriors in that order.
I'd say #3 best record is the best case scenario for the Kings, out of the playoffs the worst case. Who knows what will happen.
Why is that? Once again, people have different views than you for various reasons.
nbrans
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I think where I disagree with you is that you are so certain that this team isn't going to be good. You may be right, they may be terrible. Or they could be good. It's a team with ton of talent but with a new coach and a new direction. They were terrible last season and they showed flashes of being really good last season, sometimes in back to back games.
So, who knows. I don't think anyone has any expectation that they're going to take the league by storm. The prevailing sentiment seems to be cautious optimism. I just don't trust anyone who is absolutely confident that the team is going to be a certain way, good or bad.
It's the best of times and the worst of times and all that...
TheJoker
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Kings113 said:
Because 113, it's hard to predict how things can turn out with a new coach at helm. and the fact that we have not made any additions to this ball-club who can impact the W/L's totals makes it more realistic assessment. at this point we can't expect Eric Musselman to get his team to the 5th seed, newly required coaches take time to adjust what the players are comfortable with. and to put 5th seed is a high expectation right now it's a process for Eric and the team.
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Man, you don't need to put stuff like that out there to me anymore, I already know how you feel about our team and season. As do you with me.
No, why it is, is because of what I said after the question.
Also, please stop putting the 5th seed as what I think the Kings will be. I've explained multiple times why I put the Kings at the 5 spot on my standings list. That's not how I generally feel.
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Jerryaki
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just as a note, avery johnson and mike d'antoni seemed to do okay their first seasons as head coaches, and they started with a talented roster like the kings. if several of the players pan out, then it could be a possibility.
your assessment isn't necessarily the more realistic one, but it is more cautious.
That's not what I meant in saying that. You assumed I was feeling like that. You also assumed I have "hopes" with the Kings season - what I've talked about with the Kings season isn't hopes.
Do I hope KT gets his jumper back like in 04-05? Yeah.
What I actually meant was you simply don't need to tell me all those kinda things anymore in post #52. I have a good memory, and know you've told me stuff like that multiple times in this thread and in recent threads regarding Kings playoff/outlook talk.
Okay?
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TheJoker
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Jerryaki said:
It's possible but the chances are not that high. Avery coached the Mavericks during Don Nelson's time aswell so he knew what to do. and Mike D'Toni had a squad that was ready to run his style considering Steve Nash was the one who best fits the system.
Eric Musselman is in a different situation.
Jerryaki
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but again, it's how you feel. like you said, it can take a team some time to get rolling with a new coach. or they may roll right away. because no one knows what musselman will bring to the table, i don't feel like any one scenario is more "realistic."
i find myself commenting more and more to the posts that tell me how i should feel/view/think about the team.
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