Potential Free agent/trade/sign tracker

[SacTownKid]

I'd like to see more variety from Carter on offense. If he receives the ball at the free throw line and is wide open, would he even shoot it? I'm not sure if he even possesses any type of mid range shot. I'd like to see him attack the rim more and draw fouls rather than pull up for floaters. Ask Justin Jackson how far pulling up for floaters every time will get you.

His defense looks like the real deal and it'll look like even more of a real deal when the refs actually allow him to play it. Keon got the whistle treatment his first year and a half or so before he was recognized as a defender and allowed to defend by the game manipulators with the whistles.

In the G league Carter definitely showed some mid range. It was noticeable when Carter went back down they were really letting him get moments to show that pick and roll game he had in college. He was using the floater and there was a game against the Warriors where he was taking mid range jumpers that looked pretty effective. This was the area he never really exploited at Providence. The key thing is his ability to routinely get into the middle. That's basically NBA PG play. Get into the middle off pick and roll and kick.

 

[SacTownKid]

Sell high? Dude’s got a bad shoulder issue that apparently hasn’t healed all season and has mountains of maturity concerns STILL after the league suspended him for the quarter of a season. I’m honestly not sure if he has more value than De’Aaron Fox did for us at this point.

Trae for Morant is the only desperation move that makes sense. haha.

 

[Tetsujin]

Trae for Morant is the only desperation move that makes sense. haha.

Even then, it feels like neither team would be particularly excited about winding up with the guy they traded for. Small guards who can’t play defense aren’t exactly setting the market on fire.

the thing that set De’Aaron apart from both of those guys is his two-way ability and even then he probably wouldn’t have fetched much more than what the Kings got for him on the open market.

 

[SacTownKid]

Even then, it feels like neither team would be particularly excited about winding up with the guy they traded for. Small guards who can’t play defense aren’t exactly setting the market on fire.

the thing that set De’Aaron apart from both of those guys is his two-way ability and even then he probably wouldn’t have fetched much more than what the Kings got for him on the open market.

Yeah, it's kind of over for them. Look at the playoffs right now and the league has definitely changed. Morant has the athletic tools so he might have a bit of an advantage but the guy is borderline toxic and there has been enough years where he's been out with no major team decline that even if not surefire, conclusions about impact can be drawn.

 

[Tetsujin]

fixing the Magic’s bad offseason move last summer for them this summer. Probably need more if I were Scott because KCP is kinda borderline useless with that big ass contract.

it’s another one of those ‘two timelines’ deals where the Kings get a ‘win now’ player in KCP and some okay draft capital.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Mobley winning the DOPY puts the Cavs into the second apron. They are going to have a tough time paying Jerome. If the kings insist on bringing in a point guard he is a great target. He could start but could also come off the bench.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Mobley winning the DOPY puts the Cavs into the second apron. They are going to have a tough time paying Jerome. If the kings insist on bringing in a point guard he is a great target. He could start but could also come off the bench.

I was surprised that Monk openly relented playing the 1 so quickly, given his size and that he is considered a primary ball handler....and was injured again to finish the season. With Lavine the on the roster, it would pretty much mean that he is back to a 6th man role. Maybe he realized for himself that is his best role, after wanting to start for a while and finally getting it.

 

[SacTownKid]

I was surprised that Monk openly relented playing the 1 so quickly, given his size and that he is considered a primary ball handler....and was injured again to finish the season. With Lavine the on the roster, it would pretty much mean that he is back to a 6th man role. Maybe he realized for himself that is his best role, after wanting to start for a while and finally getting it.

Just like Holmes when Domas came in, if the Kings get a PG this offseason and put MLE type money behind, the next move better be Monk heading right out the door. 20 million on a 6th man that doesn't defend and plays the 2 is going to go thud sooner than later.

 

[serbiangoat]

fixing the Magic’s bad offseason move last summer for them this summer. Probably need more if I were Scott because KCP is kinda borderline useless with that big ass contract.
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it’s another one of those ‘two timelines’ deals where the Kings get a ‘win now’ player in KCP and some okay draft capital.

KCP and Keon are the same player if I'm trading with the magic I want Da Silva he brings ball handling and passing from the wing spot.

 

[Caccia]

Just like Holmes when Domas came in, if the Kings get a PG this offseason and put MLE type money behind, the next move better be Monk heading right out the door. 20 million on a 6th man that doesn't defend and plays the 2 is going to go thud sooner than later.

Sacramento was 4-13 in games without Monk this season. I doubt they would want to see what happens if he goes to another team, but what do I know?

 

[Joshyjosh31]

Sacramento was 4-13 in games without Monk this season. I doubt they would want to see what happens if he goes to another team, but what do I know?

I mean Monk isn’t a star might not be a starter if the right deal is there you trade him

 

[SacTownKid]

Sacramento was 4-13 in games without Monk this season. I doubt they would want to see what happens if he goes to another team, but what do I know?

It definitely hurt but look at some of the teams they faced. Monk picked the right games to miss. Bucks X 2, Nuggets X 2, Celtics, Thunder, Clippers X 3. Maybe the outcome changes but probably not. If the Kings are looking at PG's and are spending money on that spot rather than basically pulling out another min. McLaughlin level signing then having 20 million sitting in a player like that after just trading for LaVine is a no no. It's not wise cap management for the same reasons that Holmes wasn't. The only potential positive is if LaVine can get major minutes at SF. That would help a lot. I for one think spending MLE type money on a PG is a bad move regardless since I don't know of anyone worth it that provides any more playmaking than what they already get out of Monk. The defense of Monk is horrendous but the clear options in FA aren't much better TBH.

 

[kingsboi]

It definitely hurt but look at some of the teams they faced. Monk picked the right games to miss. Bucks X 2, Nuggets X 2, Celtics, Thunder, Clippers X 3. Maybe the outcome changes but probably not. If the Kings are looking at PG's and are spending money on that spot rather than basically pulling out another min. McLaughlin level signing then having 20 million sitting in a player like that after just trading for LaVine is a no no. It's not wise cap management for the same reasons that Holmes wasn't. The only potential positive is if LaVine can get major minutes at SF. That would help a lot. I for one think spending MLE type money on a PG is a bad move regardless since I don't know of anyone worth it that provides any more playmaking than what they already get out of Monk. The defense of Monk is horrendous but the clear options in FA aren't much better TBH.

trade Monk for Anthony Black, Magic get additional scoring they lack. Kings get a PG with high upside and strong defensive potential.

 

[Tetsujin]

trade Monk for Anthony Black, Magic get additional scoring they lack. Kings get a PG with high upside and strong defensive potential.

The issue there is making the salaries work because the Magic are going to be above the first apron next season somehow (they aren’t even paying Paolo yet!!!) and the young guys that are actually good-ish and don’t cost 30 million a year are too cheap for us to just trade Malik for straight up without getting a bunch more players involved on both sides.

the Magic doled out a bunch of bad long term contracts to some of their role players but I don’t know if I want to be the team stuck with four more years of Glassbones Isaac’s contract on my books all because I wanted to take in TDS (optimistically going to be a LaRavia level player next season while somehow already older than him) instead of draft assets packaged with a shorter (but still sorta crapty) contract.

 

[kingsboi]

The issue there is making the salaries work because the Magic are going to be above the first apron next season somehow (they aren’t even paying Paolo yet!!!) and the young guys that are actually good-ish and don’t cost 30 million a year are too cheap for us to just trade Malik for straight up without getting a bunch more players involved on both sides.

the Magic doled out a bunch of bad long term contracts to some of their role players but I don’t know if I want to be the team stuck with four more years of Glassbones Isaac’s contract on my books all because I wanted to take in TDS (optimistically going to be a LaRavia level player next season while somehow already older than him) instead of draft assets packaged with a shorter (but still sorta crapty) contract.

how about Orlando adds Jett Howard to match salaries? according to the ESPN trade machine, it works.

 

[Tetsujin]

how about Orlando adds Jett Howard to match salaries? according to the ESPN trade machine, it works.

Magic can’t take in more salary than they send out because they’re over the first apron.

Jett and Black for Malik is off by a good five or so million dollars.

you could do a WCJ/Black package (not sure I’d do that because I don’t want to take on four more years of WCJ’s money) or a Black/Mo Wagner for Malik package (but I don’t know if the Magic can necessarily afford to move off of MO’s expiring deal over the offseason and it would probably pee Franz off).

 

[Joshyjosh31]

I don’t think there’s any justification for Memphis to pay JJJ the super max after his playoff disappearances and being shut down by Caruso.

I’d try a Sabonis for JJJ swap with JJJ and Keegan at the wing spots we can start monk and Lavine together

 

[kingsboi]

I don’t think there’s any justification for Memphis to pay JJJ the super max after his playoff disappearances and being shut down by Caruso.

I’d try a Sabonis for JJJ swap with JJJ and Keegan at the wing spots we can start monk and Lavine together

Memphis has reached their ceiling in my view with Morant, Jackson & Bane trio. If the goal is to continue to make Playoff appearances to garner ticket sales and merchandise and continue to be the Dame/McCollum Blazers squad, then so be it but they do have some nice pieces contending teams can acquire.

 

[Joshyjosh31]

Memphis has reached their ceiling in my view with Morant, Jackson & Bane trio. If the goal is to continue to make Playoff appearances to garner ticket sales and merchandise and continue to be the Dame/McCollum Blazers squad, then so be it but they do have some nice pieces contending teams can acquire.

The goal will be playoffs they can’t rebuild if there winning owners wouldn’t allow it. As a GM there’s zero chance I supermax JJJ I’d chose that backcourt over JJJ anyday

 

[sactowndog]

I was surprised that Monk openly relented playing the 1 so quickly, given his size and that he is considered a primary ball handler....and was injured again to finish the season. With Lavine the on the roster, it would pretty much mean that he is back to a 6th man role. Maybe he realized for himself that is his best role, after wanting to start for a while and finally getting it.

I would go a bit off script and bring in Ben Simmons an an affordable deal for the point.

 

[sactowndog]

Sacramento was 4-13 in games without Monk this season. I doubt they would want to see what happens if he goes to another team, but what do I know?

Unless you all want to declare Carter yet another Monte busted draft pick, sign Chris Paul as a player coach and have him work all summer with Malik and Carter as a point guard.

Meanwhile a Keon, Zach backcourt might work if you have Simmons as your primary ball handler.

Personally I would blow the Fing thing up but I don’t think Monte wants to blow it up and I don’t think Zach is tradable for at least 18 months

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I would go a bit off script and bring in Ben Simmons an an affordable deal for the point.

There's a temptation to do this, but then the Clippers played him a total of 42 minutes in a 7-game series and DNP-CD'ed him the last two games. He just can't seem to establish that he deserves minutes, much less a starting role.

 

[Joshyjosh31]

There's a temptation to do this, but then the Clippers played him a total of 42 minutes in a 7-game series and DNP-CD'ed him the last two games. He just can't seem to establish that he deserves minutes, much less a starting role.

Was just gonna say this

 

[sactowndog]

There's a temptation to do this, but then the Clippers played him a total of 42 minutes in a 7-game series and DNP-CD'ed him the last two games. He just can't seem to establish that he deserves minutes, much less a starting role.

True but the Clippers had some guy named Leonard and a point guard named Harden.

Look it’s absolutely reaching and I don’t disagree. But for a team unwilling to take a step back and with limited cap space it’s one of the few realistic options.

 

[Joshyjosh31]

True but the Clippers had some guy named Leonard and a point guard named Harden.

Look it’s absolutely reaching and I don’t disagree. But for a team unwilling to take a step back and with limited cap space it’s one of the few realistic options.

Ben can play five positions when he’s on he got benched cause he sucks now Dunn and Batum played over him

 

[Capt. Factorial]

True but the Clippers had some guy named Leonard and a point guard named Harden.

Look it’s absolutely reaching and I don’t disagree. But for a team unwilling to take a step back and with limited cap space it’s one of the few realistic options.

Ben can play five positions when he’s on he got benched cause he sucks now Dunn and Batum played over him

The ideal of Ben Simmons is that you can sign a former consensus #1 overall pick for half of the MLE and reap the benefits like Rick Blaine is running the roulette wheel for you. The reality would appear to be more like you can sign a former consensus #1 overall pick for half of the MLE and then jump into a crash diet like Sara Goldfarb.

 

[sactowndog]

The ideal of Ben Simmons is that you can sign a former consensus #1 overall pick for half of the MLE and reap the benefits like Rick Blaine is running the roulette wheel for you. The reality would appear to be more like you can sign a former consensus #1 overall pick for half of the MLE and then jump into a crash diet like Sara Goldfarb.

Yeah I am assuming he can guard wings and pass the ball still. To attributes we still need.