Please, let Petrie choose the next head coach.
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Big Cuz 15
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yes, let petrie who is being paid.. do his job.
HighFlyingMonkey
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Lets see...
2006: Maloofs want defense, Adelman is let go. Maloofs favor Whisenant, Petrie brings in Thibodeau and Musselman to hopefully cut them off. Maloofs fall in love with Muss, worst season in a decade occurs.
2007: Maloofs say they want to let Petrie do his job, Petrie prefers Brian Shaw or Terry Porter. Maloofs fall in love with Reggie, team is dysfunctional but does better. Lots of drama at the end of the year leaving the team in a shaky state in offseason.
2008: Horrid start to the year, Maloofs call out Reggie in the press. Reggie falls out of favor quickly, doesn't even last to the halfway point of the season. By all indications, firing Reggie was a Petrie decision.
What a dysfunctional three years. Yikes.
2006: Maloofs want defense, Adelman is let go. Maloofs favor Whisenant, Petrie brings in Thibodeau and Musselman to hopefully cut them off. Maloofs fall in love with Muss, worst season in a decade occurs.
2007: Maloofs say they want to let Petrie do his job, Petrie prefers Brian Shaw or Terry Porter. Maloofs fall in love with Reggie, team is dysfunctional but does better. Lots of drama at the end of the year leaving the team in a shaky state in offseason.
2008: Horrid start to the year, Maloofs call out Reggie in the press. Reggie falls out of favor quickly, doesn't even last to the halfway point of the season. By all indications, firing Reggie was a Petrie decision.
What a dysfunctional three years. Yikes.
LPKingsFan
All-Star
Indeed. Did anyone else see this quote from Joe on NBA.com?
Terrifying. Do they get it? Four, soon to be five, coaches in five years. Methinks ownership might be part of the problem.
Terrifying. Do they get it? Four, soon to be five, coaches in five years. Methinks ownership might be part of the problem.
nbrans
All-Star
I would have posted that, but I was busy pounding my head on my desk Piksi-style.
Ryan
I like turtles
hahaha, oh that made my day
I think that's the most telling part of his comment. You can't almost beat the Lakers twice and yet be blown totally off the court by the Nuggets and the Knicks.
You can be consistently bad or you can consistently show improvement. Both of those situations are understandable. But when the fluctuation is as drastic as what we all watched the past four games even the most patient owner would be questioning why. And I don't think the Maloofs list patience as their top virtue..
I never saw Reggie as a Maloof hire. SVG seemed to be the hire and then we saw what happened there. I am hoping this 'Petrie didn't want Theus' stuff isn't revisionist history.
Anyways, the way the team only gets up for high profile games started with Artest and it hasn't left. To blame Theus for that is just wrong.
Anyways, the way the team only gets up for high profile games started with Artest and it hasn't left. To blame Theus for that is just wrong.
Variant
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I just think that given the last few poor coaching choices and a lack of recent success that the Maloofs would be more likely to axe the GM (he's had a good run after all) were these coaches his choices. Especially in that they flamed out so spectacularly.
Total speculation of course... either that or Geoff has some serious blackmail on them.
Total speculation of course... either that or Geoff has some serious blackmail on them.
Petrie has too much rep to be fired. Musselman wasn't his hire and Rick wasn't his fire, so you can't even pin those on him. To fire Petrie, placing the coaching situation on his shoulders and citing it as reason, would get the Maloofs lampooned by the media. Though, one more bit of intereference by them and the lampooning might start anyways.
Um, it was fairly well known that Petrie didn't really want Theus. Reggie Theus, an UNLV alumnus AND then-coach of New Mexico, was very clearly the golden boy choice of the Maloofs. There's nothing revisionist about it at all...
Packt
Starter
yes, this is a problem. Its one thing for fans to be weary, but when owners don't believe, why should the players. The coach should be the first and last authority in the locker room, and everyone has to understand there are no other options but to do what the coach wants.
You can't forsake the veterans in favor of the kids without risking locker chemistry. You can't teach (and learn) without there being consequences. Why work on rebounding or defending when you're guaranteed 30 minutes.
There are things to criticize, but we were not under performing.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
That was what Petrie said, I think.
=LarryLegend=
Starter
Why doesnt anybody like Natt? I mean people want Shaw, Turner, Thibodeau.....Yet Natt has been an Ast for 15years....he has earned his do. I mean I like Flip and Mitchell....but the more and more I think about it...No Big name coach wants to come here at the moment...and not with "Return to the Kingdom coming".
RalphySampson
G-League
Well I think Natt is in a no-lose situation. If the team does really well then he has a shot of getting the job. If they continue to suck, then all he has to do is give the young guys minutes and he's accomplished what they have asked him to do and then he goes back to being an assistant coach.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
I'm certainly open about Natt. He has a lot of experience, unlike Theus. If he can chip away at improving the team this year, why not?
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Natt may surprise some people. Of all the assistants, he would have been my choice. He has the most experience and a layed back demeanor. He tutored under Jerry Sloan. I think he knows that if he does a good job, that Petrie will go to bat for him. I like his attitude of "keep it simple stupid". Something thats important when teaching young players.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
We've got a long way to go this season to look at Natt. There is NOTHING he can realistically accomplish that would make him the choice over a big name coach, if that's how we go. But its possible if it just becomes a question of him vs. bringing in somebody else's untested assistant that he could put himself ino the competition. We'll see. One suspects we just traded in a twitchy sportscar of a coach for a meat and potatoes pickup truck, which in the end would make Natt a solid #2 assistant and just the fill in guy rather than the guy with great ideas. But every once in a while pickups are the right car choice. They just don't excite. And really everyone from the Maloofs down to the fans would like this next choice at coach to have some real lasting power.
PurpleHaze
All-Star
Question for Brickie:
If Kenny Natt is the sturdy pickup truck and Reggie Theus was the twitchy sportscar, what was Eric Musselman?
IMO, Musselman will be forever defined DUI busted in his 2006 silver Mercedes-Benz E350 - and laughing all the way to the bank after Maloof's fired him.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Question for Brickie:
If Kenny Natt is the sturdy pickup truck and Reggie Theus was the twitchy sportscar, what was Eric Musselman?
Sptsjunkie
Starter
I'm not sure Brick, I think that Musselman needs to be a car that looks really spiffy on the outside - but that constantly breaks down, is hard to drive, has a navigation system that send you in the wrong direction, and when it breaks down the car blames you for all of it's problems.
Sptsjunkie
Starter
Yeah, I don't want to overreact and get too happy after 1 win over a mediocre team. However, I was actually pleasently suprised by Natt's credentials. He also seems like a Petrie type of coach (good fundamentals, solid technical knowledge, softer spoken). I don't know if he can stick, but if he does well this season, he could put himself in contention for the job. Unless we are going to bring in a proven coach, Natt isn't any less credentialed than Shaw and Thib.
fairlane1964
Prospect
One thing that I noticed during last nights game was that Kenny Natt doesn't do something that both Musselman and Theus did. Both Musselman and Theus spent most of every game screaming at the players from the sidelines. I never understood this and I thought it made both of these former coaches look foolish. I didn't see Kenny doing this which I'm glad about.
