Peja's rebounds tonight-over/under

[4cwebb]

You what I think the problem with Pedja is that he is half way down the court when the shot is missed by the oppossing team. He always looks to fast break more then defensive rebounding. I do not know it is Rick telling him to run the fast break to kick start his offense or him doing on his own, but it does put pressure on our other guys to rebound the ball.

If Peja is going to get any fastbreak layups/dunks, it's going to be b/c he gets a start ahead of everyone else...he's not winning many foot races in the NBA (no shame in that, really).

 

[AleksandarN]

If Peja is going to get any fastbreak layups/dunks, it's going to be b/c he gets a start ahead of everyone else...he's not winning many foot races in the NBA (no shame in that, really).

But you see that puts alot of pressure on the rest of our guys to rebound the ball. Not a very good idea considering how bad of a rebounding team we are.

 

[4cwebb]

But you see that puts alot of pressure on the rest of our guys to rebound the ball. Not a very good ideal considering how bad of a rebounding team we are.

Agree entirely. I didn't mean to provide a justification for Peja leaking out --- I'd much rather see him putting his effort into the defensive glass instead of taking his first step toward the other end when the shot goes up.

 

[Bricklayer]

But you see that puts alot of pressure on the rest of our guys to rebound the ball. Not a very good ideal considering how bad of a rebounding team we are.

I agree -- and there's a certain irony to that since of course the old axiom very much applies: can't fast break without the ball.

 

[GoGoGadget]

I agree -- and there's a certain irony to that since of course the old axiom very much applies: can't fast break without the ball.

That's where the full court football pass comes in handy.

 

[Bricklayer]

That's where the full court football pass comes in handy.

Oops, think I was a little too obscure with my old (and apparently not as widely distributed as I thought ) axiom -- its susposed to refer to the fact that if the other team gets the offensive rebound, then leaking out is pointless because your team doesn't get the ball and can't pass it to you while you cherry pick. Unless of course you meant we could football it to him on the inbounds after the other team converts on the o-board.

 

[GoGoGadget]

Oops, think I was a little too obscure with my old (and apparently not as widely distributed as I thought ) axiom -- its susposed to refer to the fact that if the other team gets the offensive rebound, then leaking out is pointless because your team doesn't get the ball and can't pass it to you while you cherry pick. Unless of course you meant we could football it to him on the inbounds after the other team converts on the o-board.

I was mostly just referring to tonight's spectacular play....

that looked stupid and risky right until Peja made the layup.

As is usually the case, there was no REAL point to my original post.

 

[kingskings!]

Oops, think I was a little too obscure with my old (and apparently not as widely distributed as I thought ) axiom -- its susposed to refer to the fact that if the other team gets the offensive rebound, then leaking out is pointless because your team doesn't get the ball and can't pass it to you while you cherry pick. Unless of course you meant we could football it to him on the inbounds after the other team converts on the o-board.

So, explain this to me again, please? If all five guys on our team are going for the rebound, who is left to leak out on the fast break? I'm more than a little confused and could use your help in understanding this play. Apparently we do need our PG in the backcourt to manage the ball handling (a la the football pass of tonight's game as well as the fact that we turned it over while attempting to pass it to Mike while he was trying to leak out late in the game). I'm serious, by the way. I do look to you for strategy and general knowledge of the game, as many others on this site do too.

 

[Bricklayer]

So, explain this to me again, please? If all five guys on our team are going for the rebound, who is left to leak out on the fast break? I'm more than a little confused and could use your help in understanding this play. Apparently we do need our PG in the backcourt to manage the ball handling (a la the football pass of tonight's game as well as the fact that we turned it over while attempting to pass it to Mike while he was trying to leak out late in the game). I'm serious, by the way. I do look to you for strategy and general knowledge of the game, as many others on this site do too.

The point is you break AFTER you get the ball. Leaking out is normally lazy anyway. You will find few coaches telling their forwards "ok, I don't want you helping on the glass, just turn and run up court". Maybe Paul Westphal would. (the lone exception normally being if your man took a long jumper and you ran at him -- maybe just keep on trucking because you won't be able to tuirn around in time to help on the glass anyway). And certainly you should not be consistently doing it when you are currently the tallest player in your team's rotation!

I keep on bringing this startling# up, but Peja is 342nd in the NBA in rebs/48, and there are basically NO players taller than 6'7" below him in the entire legaue. He's the single worst 6'9"/6'10" rebounder in the entire league. What he's doing is far from normal, and far from acceptable. A lot of coaches would be utterly dogging him over it. Maybe even benching him. Rick is nicer than that, but the fact remains that Peja's performance this year is just sad. And its almost entirely an effort/toughness area.