Peja wants out? (Merged)

[KP]

A question for all you loyal Kings lifers.

How long does it take an NBA franchise to to complete a good-to-bad-to-good cycle. Ten years? I suppose that one would have to believe that the Kings will still be here in five years, and that they will once again be a top-rated team. Our world has become a huge IF .

Well if you were wondering about the good-to-bad part that apparently takes about 8 or 9 months... Not sure about the 2nd part.

 

[piksi]

Well if you were wondering about the good-to-bad part that apparently takes about 8 or 9 months... Not sure about the 2nd part.

seams like it was yesterday

 

[KP]

Last year we were two bad mover from lottery. Now we are one ahead.
We already got garbage for DC, Webber and Bobby. We got nothing for Vlade. Nothing seams to work better than garbage.

Hmm... nothing or garbage... I got an idea, how about we actually get something good for one of our top players?? ...Nah thats a little to much to ask I guess.

 

[sidney]

This is great the rumours are coming from a CHICAGO newspaper!
If you guys are all going to hop onto this rumour train and believe every little thing you hear just because the team is losing than so be it, but I also have some swamp land you guys might want to buy!

1) this is the final year of Peja's contract, so something will happen with him soon
2) there have been Peja/Chicago rumors before
3) Peja has already asked for a trade publicly once
3) Kings are not performing well

doesn't mean it's true, but it would be reasonable to be true.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

This is the same possibility I was thinking about considering the fact that Tim Thomas' contract is up at the end of the year and we'd let him walk.

Seems like if we don't hurry up here, we get nothing for Peja. Deng would be solid.

He's coming off the bench for Chicago, right? Shouldn't be that impossible to pry them away from the Bulls, but I don't know how the organization feels about him

And, best of all, it would set up the possibility for this:

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Bonzi Wells
6-5 SG from Ball State
10.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 21.6 minutes
Brad Miller
7-0 C from Purdue
15.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.9 apg in 37.3 minutes
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes
Incoming
Kevin Garnett
6-11 PF from Farragut Academy (HS)
22.2 ppg, 13.5 rpg, 5.7 apg in 38.0 minutes
Michael Olowokandi
7-0 C from Pacific
5.9 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.5 apg in 19.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: -8.7 ppg, +2.4 rpg, and +0.2 apg.


Minnesota Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Kevin Garnett
6-11 PF from Farragut Academy (HS)
22.2 ppg, 13.5 rpg, 5.7 apg in 38.0 minutes
Michael Olowokandi
7-0 C from Pacific
5.9 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.5 apg in 19.6 minutes
Incoming
Bonzi Wells
6-5 SG from Ball State
10.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 21.6 minutes
Brad Miller
7-0 C from Purdue
15.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.9 apg in 37.3 minutes
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: +8.7 ppg, -2.4 rpg, and -0.2 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

That also gives us 18-odd million in cap room in the offseason, as Thomas and Olowokandi both come off the books. Seeing as there aren't any true superstars on the market, we could make a run at a LOT of quality roleplayers with that kind of money.

I certainly like the sound of this lineup:

G - Mike Bibby/Speedy Claxton
G - Luol Deng/Kevin Martin
F - Shareef Abdur-Rahim/DeMarr Johnson
F - Kevin Garnett/Nene Hilario
C - Lorenzen Wright/Brian Skinner

 

[acisking]

Last year we were two bad moves from lottery. Now we are one ahead.
We already got garbage for DC, Webber and Bobby. We got nothing for Vlade. Nothing seams to work better than garbage.

other than having so much garbage that you have to see some foolish overrated player wear a trash bag and taunt the team

 

[bozzwell]

Hmm... nothing or garbage... I got an idea, how about we actually get something good for one of our top players?? ...Nah thats a little to much to ask I guess.

That would work for me. For example, any deal with Bulls that sends Deng our way would be way more then nothing. In fact, if Petrie's assesment is that Pedja will walk or command near max, he should get on the blower with Paxson regardless of where or when Pedja wants to leave. That is just a no-brainer.

 

[piksi]

Hmm... nothing or garbage... I got an idea, how about we actually get something good for one of our top players?? ...Nah thats a little to much to ask I guess.

Last and only time we got something in a trade was Chris Webber

Well, one can argue about DC too.

 

[piksi]

And, best of all, it would set up the possibility for this:

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Bonzi Wells
6-5 SG from Ball State
10.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 21.6 minutes
Brad Miller
7-0 C from Purdue
15.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.9 apg in 37.3 minutes
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes
Incoming
Kevin Garnett
6-11 PF from Farragut Academy (HS)
22.2 ppg, 13.5 rpg, 5.7 apg in 38.0 minutes
Michael Olowokandi
7-0 C from Pacific
5.9 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.5 apg in 19.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: -8.7 ppg, +2.4 rpg, and +0.2 apg.


Minnesota Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Kevin Garnett
6-11 PF from Farragut Academy (HS)
22.2 ppg, 13.5 rpg, 5.7 apg in 38.0 minutes
Michael Olowokandi
7-0 C from Pacific
5.9 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 0.5 apg in 19.6 minutes
Incoming
Bonzi Wells
6-5 SG from Ball State
10.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 21.6 minutes
Brad Miller
7-0 C from Purdue
15.6 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 3.9 apg in 37.3 minutes
Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: +8.7 ppg, -2.4 rpg, and -0.2 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

That also gives us 18-odd million in cap room in the offseason, as Thomas and Olowokandi both come off the books. Seeing as there aren't any true superstars on the market, we could make a run at a LOT of quality roleplayers with that kind of money.

I certainly like the sound of this lineup:

G - Mike Bibby/Speedy Claxton
G - Luol Deng/Kevin Martin
F - Shareef Abdur-Rahim/DeMarr Johnson
F - Kevin Garnett/Nene Hilario
C - Lorenzen Wright/Brian Skinner

You will be mentioned in the "Bee" tomorow

 

[KP]

other than having so much garbage that you have to see some foolish overrated player wear a trash bag and taunt the team

Pretty good ^.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Last and only time we got something in a trade was Chris Webber

Well, one can argue about DC too.

Williams for Bibby was a pretty good trade; despite Bibby's flaws, we still traded up.

 

[piksi]

Williams for Bibby was a pretty good trade; despite Bibby's flaws, we still traded up.

Not so sure anymore. Looks like Webber was large part of Mike's game.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Doesn't matter. $110 is still worth more than $100. Whether or not it's worth $500 was not the argument.

 

[piksi]

In this case an inflation rate should be included

 

[kingsfan916]

If Peja wants out, we should trade him before teams can just sign him as a free agent. About the trades i dont think Petrie will do them

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

In this case an inflation rate should be included

Fine; account for inflation, if you insist.

$124.68 is still worth more than $113.35.

 

[Peja]

Hmm,I would write earlier but I didn't have access to this site from some reason.Anyway,I am pretty much sure that this is just a rumour and it is perfect momment for somebody to bring a hard time for kingfans and kings organisation with these "news".
First of all,Peja's goal is to earn max contract.You really think that Bulls could give him the max contract with their sallary cap? Tell me if I am wrong but I don't think so and I think Peja also doesn't think like that.
Peja is leader in our team recently and he get used to kings organisation,he recently said that he would like to sign a new contract for the kings,so I really don't see any problem.
Situation with the team is not good,we have score 2-5,but when it will be better time for Peja to show his carracter than now?This is challenge for Peja and all players to move from this bad situation.
I am pretty much sure that we will see Peja in kings jersey for a long time ago.

 

[LPKingsFan]

I would hope we could get more than Deng if we shipped off Peja and KT. I would at least try to get Pierce from Boston, then move down from there.

 

[AleksandarN]

A question for all you loyal Kings lifers.

How long does it take an NBA franchise to to complete a good-to-bad-to-good cycle. Ten years? I suppose that one would have to believe that the Kings will still be here in five years, and that they will once again be a top-rated team. Our world has become a huge IF .

I do not know try asking the Jazz.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Took the Bulls seven years. But they won a championship.

The cycle for an also-ran? Washington may be your best bet, in terms of precedent.

 

[HndsmCelt]

Regardless of weather Pedja WANTS out I'd have to say he HAS to be among the first options in a trade. There are teams that want him and can use a spot up shooter AND might take one or more of the Philly 3 off the Kings hands to get him. Geez it's not like the Kings are desperate for small forwards...

 

[sidney]

I would hope we could get more than Deng if we shipped off Peja and KT. I would at least try to get Pierce from Boston, then move down from there.

don't really like it, but what the heck...

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Corliss Williamson
6-7 SF from Arkansas
10.8 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 22.0 minutes

Kenny Thomas
6-7 PF from New Mexico
11.3 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.6 apg in 28.6 minutes

Peja Stojakovic
6-10 SF from Yugoslavia
20.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 38.4 minutes

Incoming

Raef LaFrentz
6-11 C from Kansas
11.1 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 1.2 apg in 27.4 minutes

Paul Pierce
6-6 SF from Kansas
21.6 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 4.2 apg in 36.1 minutes

Change in team outlook: -9.5 ppg, -1.0 rpg, and +0.8 apg.

 

[SacTownKid]

is deng decent from the outside? i don't know his game. if he is, that's a considerable upgrade in a lot of other areas.

Compared to Peja, who is? If we trade Peja, trading for someone that can shoot the long ball is going to be a downgrade no matter what. I say bring a tough defender that can rebound and plays his heart out! Sounds like Nocioni to me!

Deng's a good player, but he really isn't a shooter. He is more of an initiator, very athletic. Wouldn't mind getting him, but I'd rather get Nocioni if we could.

 

[PFFFT!!]

Man, this is a bummer. Sacramento is slowly going back to the dark ages and who knows if it will ever come out of it. :\ I still think we should trade a core guy + Thomas and change coaches. The bench is god-awful bad.

 

[SacTownKid]

Look, I still trust Geoff Petrie! I will totally be behind what ever choices he makes. He hasn't done us wrong too many times.

 

[Yoda]

Look, I still trust Geoff Petrie! I will totally be behind what ever choices he makes. He hasn't done us wrong too many times.

He hasnt done us right for a while now!

 

[Bballkingsrock]

I just hope he gets traded to the East because I don't want the Lakers picking him up like they wanted to this year...........

 

[GreenKing]

What a prince. When the going gets tough, Peja talks about bailing.

Good, let him go to Chicago. It's just a shame this didn't happen before we got rid of the one true warrior to keep him happy.

Yup we got rid of the one true warrior and his one good knee. No regrets getting rid of a monster contract and a gimpy slow moving PF. NONE

 

[GoGoGadget]

I certainly like the sound of this lineup:

G - Mike Bibby/Speedy Claxton
G - Luol Deng/Kevin Martin
F - Shareef Abdur-Rahim/DeMarr Johnson
F - Kevin Garnett/Nene Hilario
C - Lorenzen Wright/Brian Skinner

Ding ding ding! We have a winner.

 

[playmaker0017]

I'm still in the "trade Bibby" camp.

I think a REAL PG would be a BLESSING for this team.

Bibby is really a glorified SG. He gets the ball across half-court. Dishes it to Webber/Vlade (now Reef/Miller) and runs around trying to find his shot.

Last night I saw him act like a PG a few times - and it's no coincidence we started to play better when he did.

We need him to drive and find open players. He shouldn't be looking for his shot on this team. The other players are just too good.

Right now the bulk of the scoring should be rested on Reef/Peja. Miller/Bonzi pulling up slack. Bibby chipping in.

If Bibby gets on ... then go to town. But, otherwise - just find the open man.

I think trading Bibby makes this team better than trading Peja. Bibby is just so bad defensively. He's not very good at running the offense. He's a very good shooter - but why do we need 3 good shooters and 2 decent shooters? I'd rather have a dead-eye (Peja), a center who stretches the D (Miller), a low post player with a decent shot (Reef), an energy hustler (Bonzi) and a distributor. Than replacing the distributor with another good shooter.