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Sometimes I get the feeling they're looking too hard for the best algorithm to find the star player, when sometimes your eyes might work just as well, if not better.
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Sometimes I get the feeling they're looking too hard for the best algorithm to find the star player, when sometimes your eyes might work just as well, if not better.
Hey, whoever they pick means they will have a scapegoat if the pick doesn't work out.![]()
Sometimes I get the feeling they're looking too hard for the best algorithm to find the star player, when sometimes your eyes might work just as well, if not better.
Problem is no one is good enough to shine in NBA without massive improvement and for that you need great work ethic. Fans can have some insight, but it's limited to occasional praise by the coach. Then players get a lot of distractions, once they earn pro money, and to keep working on their game, they need strong mental focus. Fans have no access to this information, except for some interviews, where a few players go into minute detail about what they need to work on. Finally you have very athletic guys, who were ready to play in the pros physically, and limit effort, while playing for scholarship money only. Mental side is really underapreciated, though only by fans at this moment - teams started to use psych evaluations some time ago.
Problem is no one is good enough to shine in NBA without massive improvement and for that you need great work ethic. Fans can have some insight, but it's limited to occasional praise by the coach. Then players get a lot of distractions, once they earn pro money, and to keep working on their game, they need strong mental focus. Fans have no access to this information, except for some interviews, where a few players go into minute detail about what they need to work on. Finally you have very athletic guys, who were ready to play in the pros physically, and limit effort, while playing for scholarship money only. Mental side is really underapreciated, though only by fans at this moment - teams started to use psych evaluations some time ago.
My point is equations are pretty meaningless. You can look for some markers like (off.reb%+steal%+block%) as a way to gauge athleticism, high % finishing at the rim on a good number of possessions is a good indication of length, strength and balance or combination of high release point and quick release is a good way to gauge ability to get their shot off, compare player's level of play against cupcake defenses and tough ones. Problem is most of this is estimation, not precise numbers.So....have your equation include number of hours at the gym per week? The number of youtube videos he watched in the offseason for dribbling drills? Or how many times they say "I HATE losing" in interviews their last year in college?![]()
My point is equations are pretty meaningless. You can look for some markers like (off.reb%+steal%+block%) as a way to gauge athleticism, high % finishing at the rim on a good number of possessions is a good indication of length, strength and balance or combination of high release point and quick release is a good way to gauge ability to get their shot off, compare player's level of play against cupcake defenses and tough ones. Problem is most of this is estimation, not precise numbers.
P.S. Is the use of word "ana..apist" allowed on this forum?![]()
Also remember that PDA said his analytics team put together the web site...so obviously analytics are going to be at the center of what they are trying to do.
My point is equations are pretty meaningless. You can look for some markers like (off.reb%+steal%+block%) as a way to gauge athleticism, high % finishing at the rim on a good number of possessions is a good indication of length, strength and balance or combination of high release point and quick release is a good way to gauge ability to get their shot off, compare player's level of play against cupcake defenses and tough ones. Problem is most of this is estimation, not precise numbers.
P.S. Is the use of word "ana..apist" allowed on this forum?![]()
I would not say equations are meaningless, even is evaluating very dynamic phenomenon like basketball. I have used statistical analysis to operationalize fairly complex and dynamic communication events like persuasion, consumer behavior etc. BUT in the case of individual player analysis from differing leagues, and at differing stages of development there is still way too much room for error. They CAN be a very good tool and in the case of deciding between best player available and best fit they certainly can help evaluate HOW good or how good a fit players might be. PDA may will find himself deciding between a consensus pick or reaching down for a better fit.