Patrick Patterson Kings sleeper?

[=LarryLegend=]

6'9.25" in shoes
240lbs
7'1.25" wing and 5.3% body fat.

He is 21 years old, seems like a true professonal, dude is a tank very strong. his hands are HUGE! 25" wider than DeMarcus. He has earned alot of respect from the GMs not being scared to workout in all of the combine.

He does need to step up his defensive rebounding. but I think if he came here and worked with Truck and Landry he will improve that. all of that said we do need a center more and 5 might be high for him. I do like the idea of him playing with Tyreke.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/NBA-Combine-Video-Interview-Patrick-Patterson-3475/

 

[deekay2o9]

He's very well spoken. You don't see that from a lot of NBA prospects these days.

 

[Prince_XY]

6'9.25" in shoes
240lbs
7'1.25" wing and 5.3% body fat.

He is 21 years old, seems like a true professonal, dude is a tank very strong. his hands are HUGE! 25" wider than DeMarcus. He has earned alot of respect from the GMs not being scared to workout in all of the combine.

He does need to step up his defensive rebounding. but I think if he came here and worked with Truck and Landry he will improve that. all of that said we do need a center more and 5 might be high for him. I do like the idea of him playing with Tyreke.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/NBA-Combine-Video-Interview-Patrick-Patterson-3475/

Are you saying he is a guy who has the potential to go as high as #5, or you want to consider him for our second round pick? Either way I don't think he will be available for us to pick.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

Are you saying he is a guy who has the potential to go as high as #5, or you want to consider him for our second round pick? Either way I don't think he will be available for us to pick.

I said 5 was a little high for him. I like him though, and he would be a smart player who has a nba body we could use.

 

[Bricklayer]

God I hope not.

Talk about a guy that neither addresses a weakness nor has a high ceiling. We've already got two PFs at or above the level Patterson is likely to acheive. Its like the Wes Johnson vs. Omri/Donte thing. Favors? Sure. His perceived ceiling is major star, and he could be a big shotblocker/defender form the spot. But unless Patterson has been playing college possum ala Carlos Boozer, he may have topped out by his sophomore year of college, is older than most lottery rookies, barely has average size, and doesn't have any one overwhelming skill to build around in the NBA.

If you are picking 13th or something, yeah, maybe you grab him and think cool, I got a solid guy. But at #5 that would be severely underwhelming.

 

[Vlade4GM]

I'm with Bricky, I think he can be a real solid player. One of those guys that you can rely on to use every inch of his talent, but I don't think his upside is high enough to justify a top 5 pick. We already have Landry.

 

[Sparky6string]

The problem with this #5 pick is that people only think the top 4 projected players are worth taking with it. Then we hear that after the first 4 the talent level is about the same for the next so-and-so picks but none of them are worth the 5th pick?

If it's true that the talent level is about the same after those projected top 4 then yes Patterson is an option and so are the rest on that level.

 

[Vlade4GM]

The problem with this #5 pick is that people only think the top 4 projected players are worth taking with it. Then we hear that after the first 4 the talent level is about the same for the next so-and-so picks but none of them are worth the 5th pick?

If it's true that the talent level is about the same after those projected top 4 then yes Patterson is an option and so are the rest on that level.

I think Gary was the only one saying that

 

[Bricklayer]

The problem with this #5 pick is that people only think the top 4 projected players are worth taking with it. Then we hear that after the first 4 the talent level is about the same for the next so-and-so picks but none of them are worth the 5th pick?

If it's true that the talent level is about the same after those projected top 4 then yes Patterson is an option and so are the rest on that level.

If the talent leel is the same over a series of picks, then you go after a guy who fills a need. A shortish PF with no calling card isn't one of ours.

 

[Sparky6string]

I think Gary was the only one saying that

IDK I seem to read that a lot. I don't know enough of them all to dispute it.

 

[Sparky6string]

If the talent leel is the same over a series of picks, then you go after a guy who fills a need. A shortish PF with no calling card isn't one of ours.

My opinion is he isn't short- that's a solid height for the position and I think he would work well.

The rest I agree with. That thread about drafting BPA or to fill a need is kinda moot IF it's true that the talent level is similar after the top 4.

 

[Vlade4GM]

I think Johnson is below the top 4, but definitely a step or two higher from the rest.

 

[Sparky6string]

I kinda agree with that although I still think Aldridge is there with him.

 

[DoDiGaG0]

how is his ceiling higher than Landry's?

 

[bajaden]

I think Johnson is below the top 4, but definitely a step or two higher from the rest.

I think it really depends on the team picking. Johnson is a very good player, and one of the best shooters in the draft. If my choice is between Johnson and Patterson, I take Johnson.

I really like Patrick Patterson. Good athlete and has a motor that never stops. The problem I have with Patterson is that I think he's already used up his upside. When you watch Patterson play, he's not really great at anything. He's just sort of decent to good at everything. He's a decent to good rebounder, but not great. He's a decent to good post player, but not great. He's a decent to good outside shooter, but not great. If there was one aspect of his game he was best at, it was probably hustle defense. As I've said before, there were times when there appeared to be two of him on the floor.

Thats not to say he can't get better. I'm sure he will. But the ceiling is somewhat limited with him. The difference in his game from last year to this year was small. He did improve his outside shot. But it was still erratic. Don't get me wrong. I would love to have him on my team coming off the bench. He's going to come into games and change the speed and style of play. He's a very physical player, and he's a physical specimen. But he's not quite good enough to be the 5th pick in the draft.

 

[Vlade4GM]

No, I don't think it depends on the team picking. Just an objective comparison of overall talent, I think Johnson is a level above Aminu/Aldrich/Monroe/Udoh/Davis/Patterson.

 

[bajaden]

No, I don't think it depends on the team picking. Just an objective comparison of overall talent, I think Johnson is a level above Aminu/Aldrich/Monroe/Udoh/Davis/Patterson.

If you want my objective opinion, then I agree with you. What I was saying, is that even if you and I agree that there's a top four, and then there's Johnson, and then there's the rest, that doesn't mean that one of the top four teams agrees with us. One of those teams might think that Johnson is exactly what they're looking for.

No one on this planet, other than the teams that passed, thought that Rubio would fall all the way to 5 last year. So you never know for sure what someone's going to do.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Of course, but I'm not trying to predict where these guys get drafted.

 

[Prince_XY]

I said 5 was a little high for him. I like him though, and he would be a smart player who has a nba body we could use.

Got it.

So, in essence you just want to talk about this player. Nice way to deal with boredom.

 

[Gary]

I think Patterson will make a fine pro.. Maybe be the type of player that is a fringe starter, and good 6th man type roleplayer. I can't see him going at 5th, but I can see him being better than players picked before him. He's low risk low reward type player that is an excellent pick for a fringe playoff team.

But the people on this forum are correct as well!! If any player in this draft has the capability to blow the socks off GMs in workouts it's Wesley Johnson. So if anyone moves up I am almost 100% sure it would/will be Johnson. If anyone has the chance to move down it's probably Cousins or Favors. I think a lot lies in what NJ does.

 

[Gary]

I think Gary was the only one saying that

LOL read more posts.. Lots of people saying "top 4" and such (referring to Cousins, Favors, Wall and Turner). I had been referring to those 4 players as the top 4 though since before March Madness when you could clearly see it was going to be the case.

 

[swisshh]

In the games of Kentucky that I watched, Patterson was the second most impressive player behind Wall. He outshined and outworked Cousins. I don't think he'll go as high as five just due to height. He is one of the guys I think will surprise in the league.

 

[Vlade4GM]

LOL read more posts.. Lots of people saying "top 4" and such (referring to Cousins, Favors, Wall and Turner). I had been referring to those 4 players as the top 4 though since before March Madness when you could clearly see it was going to be the case.

I was referring more to you saying the 5-12 (or so) players are all fairly similar in talent level.

 

[Gary]

I was referring more to you saying the 5-12 (or so) players are all fairly similar in talent level.

Ahh gotcha.. I said they are similar in "prospect level" though.. There are different talent levels in that group. You have your probable roleplayers, and your young "high risk" talents in there, but all the 5-12 are basically on the same level when it comes to prospecting them. Or at least they were up until a couple days ago.. That 5-12 has probably now split into 5-9 and 10-14 now.

In the 5-9 group you have Aminu, Johnson, Aldrich, Udoh and Monroe.

In the 10-14 group you have Davis, Patterson, Orton, Whiteside and Motiejunas.