HereWeBoogie
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Whats with all the Dwight Howard hate? He'd be the best player on this team and it wouldn't even be close.
lol no thanks, please stay in LA or go to Houston
Whats with all the Dwight Howard hate? He'd be the best player on this team and it wouldn't even be close.
Whats with all the Dwight Howard hate? He'd be the best player on this team and it wouldn't even be close.
Ewing coming in could be interesting. He had a ton of skills and was a good defender. I'm not sure if he was a good defender based on technique or length though. Cousins isn't nearly as long as Ewing, so Ewing's shot blocking techniques might not work at all for Demarcus.
Whats with all the Dwight Howard hate? He'd be the best player on this team and it wouldn't even be close.
Ewing coming in could be interesting. He had a ton of skills and was a good defender. I'm not sure if he was a good defender based on technique or length though. Cousins isn't nearly as long as Ewing, so Ewing's shot blocking techniques might not work at all for Demarcus.
I've seen zero evidence Ewing offers anything as a coach. D12 still doesn't even have a go to post move and barely added anything to his game while in Orl with him.
Hakeem on the other hand....
Whats with all the Dwight Howard hate? He'd be the best player on this team and it wouldn't even be close.
Ewing coming in could be interesting. He had a ton of skills and was a good defender. I'm not sure if he was a good defender based on technique or length though. Cousins isn't nearly as long as Ewing, so Ewing's shot blocking techniques might not work at all for Demarcus.
Whats with all the Dwight Howard hate? He'd be the best player on this team and it wouldn't even be close.
Well, player with similar athleticism, Bogut went from modest block numbers in mid-major college to pretty big threat in the NBA. More interesting, he seemingly did that in one off-season, jumping from 2.7 to 6.2block%. He kept his def.reb.% so it's not like he decided to transform to Marcus Camby - Bogut was challenging shots while still keeping his position.Boogie is never going to be a shotblocker. I noted that as soon as he showed up. Guys don't learn to be shotblockers. They either have those instincts or don't by the time they hit college. He will be a guy who tops out in the low 1s and can get one here and there, but he'll never be a factor in that respect. Its the biggest limitation to his potential. Offensively he has skills that few centers have ever had. But defensively he will never be that anchor.
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I honestly want nothing to do with Dwight on this team. Yes, his shot blocking would be great, but he wants to be the top dog without having top dog talent on the offensive end. He tries to out muscle you 100% of the time and still doesn't do that correctly half the time.
Still looks raw when trying to set up a post move, which is unbelievable considering he's been in the league for 9 years.
Well, player with similar athleticism, Bogut went from modest block numbers in mid-major college to pretty big threat in the NBA. More interesting, he seemingly did that in one off-season, jumping from 2.7 to 6.2block%. He kept his def.reb.% so it's not like he decided to transform to Marcus Camby - Bogut was challenging shots while still keeping his position.
Marc Gasol went with 2.9-3.4-4.1 trajectory in block% during his first 3 seasons, while being almost 24, when he made his NBA debut. Another guy who gets blocks as a side effect to shot contesting, while staying in position for a rebound.
To get similar results Cousins has to work on his understanding of the game, anticipation, what the play will look like, when it only start to unfold. Ewing was still a major shot-blocker even in the late 90s when his athleticism was gone so he might have insight what Boogie should do.
Why the Dwight and Ewing hate. Dwight is still the best C in the league and Ewing is a good big man coach IMO.
I would welcome Ewing as an assistant, because IMO, he's a huge upgrade over anything we had the past couple of years.
Actually, I've never heard anyone rave about what a good big man coach Ewing is. But I have heard very good reports about Clifford Ray. Just because Ewing has better name recognition doesn't mean he's a better coach than Ray. Also, I think you might get some argument from several GM's around the league about Howard being the best center in the league. Maybe 3 years ago, but not now.
Actually, I've never heard anyone rave about what a good big man coach Ewing is. But I have heard very good reports about Clifford Ray. Just because Ewing has better name recognition doesn't mean he's a better coach than Ray. Also, I think you might get some argument from several GM's around the league about Howard being the best center in the league. Maybe 3 years ago, but not now.
If Mike Malone has strong ties to the Detroit Bad Boys teams, it wouldn't be a shock to see Bill Lambier considered.
I have heard Lambier wants to coach in the NBA. He was an assistant to Kurt Rambis in Minnesota. He coached Detroit's WNBA team to a championship. He might not be a horrible choice.
Don't know what he is doing now... And pure speculation on my part...
Here is the rub... If Malone brings in Lamier then the chances of landing Bird as GM go from near zero to absolute zero. Bird HATES Lambier and what he brought/brings to game. For similar reasons I don't want Lambier any where near our team. No one needs to teach Cousins how to slide under an opponent when he goes up, or how to cheap shot the neck... that crap just ain't basketball, and never was.If Laimbeer can help the team, great. All I know is that he is the player I most hated growing up. He was a whiny thug.
Well, player with similar athleticism, Bogut went from modest block numbers in mid-major college to pretty big threat in the NBA. More interesting, he seemingly did that in one off-season, jumping from 2.7 to 6.2block%. He kept his def.reb.% so it's not like he decided to transform to Marcus Camby - Bogut was challenging shots while still keeping his position.
Marc Gasol went with 2.9-3.4-4.1 trajectory in block% during his first 3 seasons, while being almost 24, when he made his NBA debut. Another guy who gets blocks as a side effect to shot contesting, while staying in position for a rebound.
To get similar results Cousins has to work on his understanding of the game, anticipation, what the play will look like, when it only start to unfold. Ewing was still a major shot-blocker even in the late 90s when his athleticism was gone so he might have insight what Boogie should do.
Bogut and Gasol are gigantic players though. Don't get me wrong, Cousins is a big dude but Bogut's head is almost as big as Cousins alone. I don't care what the height/weight/wingspan stats might say. Watch Bogut and Gasol play and they tower over everyone else on the court. Cousins doesn't have that presence and I don't see him ever being like that. Like Brick said, he's most likely never going to average much more than 1 block a game. All I want is for him to get himself in position and use his wide body to disrupt shots in the paint.
As far as Howard goes to the other posters who are still bashing him....comparing some of his superficial stats to Cousins' is not going to cut it. Howard has a bigger impact on the game on a team that has way more talent than our team. Can you imagine Howard's stats if he was playing for the Kings last year? I know it'll never happen but he would be awesome next to Cousins. Some of you guys act like we can be choosy or something. This is Sacramento folks and no one is going to want to come here unless the team is a championship contender. You don't get to the championships by passing up elite talent because they are annoying crybabies who aren't as tough as you think they should be.
The question remains though, how much did that back surgery really set Dwight back? The point is without his athleticism, a great deal of his game suffers. The reason Tim Duncan is still dropping 20+ points and 10+ rebounds in the Finals at 37 is because his game is based on fundamentals and not athleticism. Dwight is the opposite. I don't want a broken Dwight. Even if we had the first pick in the draft I don't think I would take Noel with his multiple knee injuries. Historically, it has never worked out well for the team that took the risk.
Edit: I am not saying Dwight wouldn't help the Kings, it just he is an additional injury away from being a shell of himself. Also, I don't think his attitude is the type we should stick Cousins with! That's just my opinion on it. Not saying yours is wrong!
I can only hope that we get back to stressing fundamentals. Our teams the past few years have had no evidence of any schooling or practice of the basics. It's always most obvious when the going gets tough and they have nothing to fall back on. I may not particularly like the Spurs, although I'm rooting for them right now, but you cannot question the excellence of their coaching.
I'm not sure Dwight Howard could or would buy into that culture, Patrick Ewing or no Patrick Ewing.
It certainly would be a sight to sore eyes for a Kings team to incorporate fundamentals in their style of play. I share a similar opinion with you in regards to the Spurs. I never really rooted them, and actually hated them for a bit because of their success. But with time comes wisdom. As you said, you have to respect their coaching, their drafting, and their discipline. They do everything at a high level, and reap the benefits. With Dwight, he has been in the league long enough to have added fundamentals to his athletic abilities, but he hasn't really done a great job. It's a shame because as his athleticism diminishes (already starting to) his use on the court will diminish as well.
Its not just Duncan, but the entire team. The Spurs have 9 players that are from other countries. Say what you want about european, or south american basketball, but they stress fundamentals. Its no accident that the Spurs continue to be a good basketball team year after year. I've nothing against great athlete's. If you can find a great athlete thats also fundamentally sound, you have Kobe, and Lebron. Kobe is another that time has caught up with, but he's still a very good basketball player. When time catches up with Howard, his trip to the bottom will be a quick one, unless he starts to add to his game.
Agreed. The Spurs stress skills over leaping ability and it has gotten them this far. Foreign players are usually more sound fundamentally as the game overseas is not as dependent on physical ability as it is in the NBA. The Spurs clearly know this as you already alluded to. Although, Duncan wasn't exactly a slow mover when he entered the league; the Spurs found their fundamentally sound and great athlete in Duncan and just surrounded him with proper players. Howard is too stubborn and too much of a prima donna to realize his deficiencies. He won't add to his game that is pretty much a given.
What kind of monsters do you think Gasol and Bogut are?Bogut and Gasol are gigantic players though. Don't get me wrong, Cousins is a big dude but Bogut's head is almost as big as Cousins alone. I don't care what the height/weight/wingspan stats might say. Watch Bogut and Gasol play and they tower over everyone else on the court. Cousins doesn't have that presence and I don't see him ever being like that. Like Brick said, he's most likely never going to average much more than 1 block a game. All I want is for him to get himself in position and use his wide body to disrupt shots in the paint.
As far as Howard goes to the other posters who are still bashing him....comparing some of his superficial stats to Cousins' is not going to cut it. Howard has a bigger impact on the game on a team that has way more talent than our team. Can you imagine Howard's stats if he was playing for the Kings last year? I know it'll never happen but he would be awesome next to Cousins. Some of you guys act like we can be choosy or something. This is Sacramento folks and no one is going to want to come here unless the team is a championship contender. You don't get to the championships by passing up elite talent because they are annoying crybabies who aren't as tough as you think they should be.
I don't care if he gets .8 or 1.8 blocks per game as long as everybody in Kings paint has to shoot over all 113 inches of his length. He can certainly get in position in time - it's not harder than getting in position for a charge. All he has to do is technique of keeping his arms up and jumping only straight up as well.
What kind of monsters do you think Gasol and Bogut are?
Quality is bad but I don't see Marc here being bigger than Boogie
Same for Bogut:
I don't care if he gets .8 or 1.8 blocks per game as long as everybody in Kings paint has to shoot over all 113 inches of his length. He can certainly get in position in time - it's not harder than getting in position for a charge. All he has to do is technique of keeping his arms up and jumping only straight up as well.
Its not just Duncan, but the entire team. The Spurs have 9 players that are from other countries. Say what you want about european, or south american basketball, but they stress fundamentals. Its no accident that the Spurs continue to be a good basketball team year after year. I've nothing against great athlete's. If you can find a great athlete thats also fundamentally sound, you have Kobe, and Lebron. Kobe is another that time has caught up with, but he's still a very good basketball player. When time catches up with Howard, his trip to the bottom will be a quick one, unless he starts to add to his game.
What kind of monsters do you think Gasol and Bogut are?
Quality is bad but I don't see Marc here being bigger than Boogie
Same for Bogut:
I don't care if he gets .8 or 1.8 blocks per game as long as everybody in Kings paint has to shoot over all 113 inches of his length. He can certainly get in position in time - it's not harder than getting in position for a charge. All he has to do is technique of keeping his arms up and jumping only straight up as well.