Pacers want to talk to Artest; Stojakovic 'disrespected'
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I don't think Pedja should have had to hear about anything thru the media. (I think it was the stop to the deal he heard on TV, too.) I just don't think that was respectful. However, there have been other Kings players that have heard from other than the coach, GM or Maloofs. Adelman was asked to go to Webber's hotel room to tell him. I think they could have done that for Pedja. I understand the idea of not telling players everytime a trade is being discussed. Why put them on the rollercoaster everytime nothing happens.
Peja knew it was coming. It was one of the most talked rumors of the year. I think he felt more so rejected than disrespected.
I can't blame the Kings for this because I 'm 100% sure that if it was up to GP this deal would not have been leaked to media until ink was dry and Ron's jersey ready with a number printed on it.
I can't blame the Kings for this because I 'm 100% sure that if it was up to GP this deal would not have been leaked to media until ink was dry and Ron's jersey ready with a number printed on it.
I think since artest is clearly nuts, peja should hold more importance over him, if i was GP i would see if they were to keep peja, at least find out if he would play or if now he wants to be traded. I mean for all we know, Peja was happy about this trade and now is upset because he has to stay, i dont know but i agree, they need to talk to peja as well.
So we end up with Artest, who said that he would not be happy here. If he is not going to be happy, do we really think that he is going to be helpful? Some players can be great while being unhappy with the team he is on, I do not think that Artest is one of those men.
Everyone keeps saying that we are going to lose Peja for nothing if this trade does not happen. We will be losing Peja for nothing of Artest decides to lose his mind again while here or be generally unproductive. If he does not work out here, he will have LESS value than Peja. It took this long for Indiana to get a deal done. We think that we could do better - how?
Everyone keeps saying that we are going to lose Peja for nothing if this trade does not happen. We will be losing Peja for nothing of Artest decides to lose his mind again while here or be generally unproductive. If he does not work out here, he will have LESS value than Peja. It took this long for Indiana to get a deal done. We think that we could do better - how?
So true. Artest is a headcase, and probably always will be, but I don't really care who they are off the court as long as he produces on the court.
And if he doesn't want to be here it would give him more incentive to produce (he's always played with intensity) to up his value to be picked up by a team "he wants."
And if he doesn't want to be here it would give him more incentive to produce (he's always played with intensity) to up his value to be picked up by a team "he wants."
We have a longer time frame to get something done compared to Indy (they’re trying to move on from the Artest saga and save their season) and compared to our time with Peja. And there is no telling that other players weren't offered for Artest, but just didn't fit Indy's criteria, but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t fit ours.
SacTownKid said:
Well, here is the thing. Artest really hasn't had all that many off the court issues. Mostly all of them involve on the court problems. He isn't a guy thats out getting high and robbing banks on the weekend. He just likes to beat up fans once and awhile. 
There is NO comparison. This isn't about Webber, whose initial reaction to coming to a perpetual cellar-dwelling team better known as the graveyard of the NBA was less than enthusiastic.
This is about Ron Artest, a player who has poisoned a good team and left them in shambles, saying HE doesn't want to play for a team that has consistently won 50+ games recently, has fans who sell out the arena every night, is known to be willing to give black sheep second chances, etc.
It is NOT about Chris Webber and I find it totally deplorable that you would even try to make that comparison.
This is about Ron Artest, a player who has poisoned a good team and left them in shambles, saying HE doesn't want to play for a team that has consistently won 50+ games recently, has fans who sell out the arena every night, is known to be willing to give black sheep second chances, etc.
It is NOT about Chris Webber and I find it totally deplorable that you would even try to make that comparison.
There is not guarntees in this game or any game for that matter. It's all about taking chances, we've seen it numerous times with other people (Webber is the first comes to mind, got himself traded from GS/WA. Another Randy Moss this year we didn't hear a WORD from him.)
We need to take a chance, Peja was more than likely not going to stay with us, he hasn't played good/consistant basketball in quite a while, getting in my opinion a top 20 player in the league when he is ON the court playing for an inconsistant shooter is a GREAT deal for us.
We need to take a chance, Peja was more than likely not going to stay with us, he hasn't played good/consistant basketball in quite a while, getting in my opinion a top 20 player in the league when he is ON the court playing for an inconsistant shooter is a GREAT deal for us.
Sacramento has never really been a desirable place for "top-end" players to come to. We're not the "huge" stage that players can get mass media to them we probably never will be. And now (not the past we had different teams the past few years our leader was traded last year) we're back to a "cellar-dwellar". I still think we can do well this season with a bit of a change.
