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Dime Dropper

Dime Dropper

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What name do you think will be called for the Kings on draft night? You can take into account players slipping etc. but just name the player you think you will hear David Stern announce. You don't have to elaborate on your pick (unless you want to!).


I think we will hear:

Jeff Green



I would like to hear:

Mike Conley


BTW, I think something to look forward to next season is seeing a rookie play a fairly significant amount of minutes. We Kings fans are not used of seeing rookies playing many minutes, but I think it may be a little different this year due to the rookie being better and our team being worse.
 
Dime Dropper

Dime Dropper

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I'm not so sure Nbran....if it's to get another pick or to move up, I'm all for it, but I don't know if Petrie will be doing that or trading away our pick for a veteran! The latter is probably less unlikely, but still a possibility. A draft nigth trade would certainly give TDOS some fun!
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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Would like to hear Yi Jianlian.

Or Horford/B. Wright of course, but Jianlian is the only one for whom I can even come up with an extended excuse how he might slip to us (the foreign mystery + the interference of the Chinese govt).

Highly unlikely though unless we take proactive steps (i.e. trading up, or moving a vet for a higher pick).

Think we will hear: Jeff Green?
 
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Smills91

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At #10 I think we'll hear Jeff Green

At #10 I want to hear Joakim Noah

What I really want to hear is that we traded up to select Al Horford at 3 or 4
 
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fnordius

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According to the mock drafts, we can forget: Oden, Durant, B. Wright, Horford, Brewer, Jianlian and Noah.

23% think Conley will still be around, 31% for Hawes.

That leaves J. Wright (46%), Green (69%), and everybody else (100%).

I could see Petrie going for Hawes or Conley if they were available, but it seems unlikely. I'm thinking that Green is more his sort of flexible piece tweener than JW is, so I guess I'll have to say Green.
 
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BMiller52

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fnordius said:
According to the mock drafts, we can forget: Oden, Durant, B. Wright, Horford, Brewer, Jianlian and Noah.

23% think Conley will still be around, 31% for Hawes.

That leaves J. Wright (46%), Green (69%), and everybody else (100%).

I could see Petrie going for Hawes or Conley if they were available, but it seems unlikely. I'm thinking that Green is more his sort of flexible piece tweener than JW is, so I guess I'll have to say Green.
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I'd love to get Conley. He's a great passer and defender.
 
beb0p

beb0p

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Btw, Jeff Green and Julian Wright canceled their workouts with the Kings. I'm guessing it's because they didn't want to play against Corey Brewer and Al Thornton in the same workout.

With that in mind and I'm guessing GP will see Green and Wright as guys who can't walk the walk, I'm going out on a limp and say we draft Thad Young.

The name I want to hear: Thad Young (barring any slide)

The names I don't want to hear: Jeff Green (career role player). Julian Wright (too big a risk). Corey Brewer (a glorified Trenton Hassell).
 
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fnordius

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^^^ If true, shame on the front office for not rescheduling those guys. I can understand Petrie's wanting to get everybody to Sac that he can, after last year's Marcus Williams mess. But you don't let the projected #9 and #10 guys walk because you've booked Brewer, who will be unavailable at the 10th pick according to 12 of the 13 mock drafts I looked at today.

Petrie doesn't draft guys who haven't worked out for him, so letting those guys go seems tantamount to dropping our draft position by 1-2 slots.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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My bigger concern with a "no workout no draft" rule would just be that it makes it very hard to trade for extra draft picks or whatnot, since you presumably haven't been working out many guys in that range. To that degree seeing some of those late frist/2nd round type prospects getting workouts might be a good sign that we are anticipating getting a pick out there.

As for Wright and Green, I would hope that just because they bailed on this one workout doesn't mean they might not get another one here at some point before the draft.
 
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BMiller52

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Bricklayer said:
My bigger concern with a "no workout no draft" rule would just be that it makes it very hard to trade for extra draft picks or whatnot, since you presumably haven't been working out many guys in that range. To that degree seeing some of those late frist/2nd round type prospects getting workouts might be a good sign that we are anticipating getting a pick out there.

As for Wright and Green, I would hope that just because they bailed on this one workout doesn't mean they might not get another one here at some point before the draft.
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+1. I don't see why we'd hold some grudge against them or something because they cancelled a work out in Orlando. I think they'll probably work out for us in Sac.
 
nbrans

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Smills91 said:
Man you really need to get off his jock...maybe at 25...but at 10??? That's WAYYYYYYY too much man-love for this message board.
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WTF are you talking about? Most draft boards have him 12-16. 10 may be a slight reach, but it's not like I'm talking about drafting someone who is slated to go late in the first round.

And if man-loves means wanting someone who can jump over a piece of paper, unlike your boy Spencer Hawes, then yeah, I guess the shoe fits.
 
Entity

Entity

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I'd have to go with nbrans on this one. Smith is a better athlete than Hawes. Hawes is a BROKE mans Brad Miller at BEST and why would we want that when we have Brad Miller.
 
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Smills91

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nbrans said:
WTF are you talking about? Most draft boards have him 12-16. 10 may be a slight reach, but it's not like I'm talking about drafting someone who is slated to go late in the first round.

And if man-loves means wanting someone who can jump over a piece of paper, unlike your boy Spencer Hawes, then yeah, I guess the shoe fits.
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I've never been on the Hawes bandwagon...he's a sexless pick IMO. If we draft him, oh well...

I like Conley, Brewer, Noah, Green as realistic picks @ #10.

I REALLY want Horford though.

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Where is this "most" draft boards have him in the 12-16 range...usually the earliest he appears on most is at 16....16-25 is a much more accurate range for Smith. And even that is overpaying for the guy...Early 2nd round is where he SHOULD go...he'll be a scrub back-up C his entire career. I mean I love Justin Williams and all, but the reason he's great is he went undrafted. If Smith went undrafted then he'd be a steal, but in the mid first round, that's HIGHLY overpaying for the guy.
 
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BMiller52

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Smills91 said:
I've never been on the Hawes bandwagon...he's a sexless pick IMO. If we draft him, oh well...

I like Conley, Brewer, Noah, Green as realistic picks @ #10.

I REALLY want Horford though.
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Yeah I'd love to get 4 of those 5 also... not sure why we'd need Brewer though.

lol at Hawes being "sexless"...
 
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fnordius

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beb0p said:
Btw, Jeff Green and Julian Wright canceled their workouts with the Kings. I'm guessing it's because they didn't want to play against Corey Brewer and Al Thornton in the same workout.

With that in mind and I'm guessing GP will see Green and Wright as guys who can't walk the walk, I'm going out on a limp and say we draft Thad Young.
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Would you mind telling me where you read the above? I'm just curious, because (a) Green, J. Wright and Brewer (along with T. Young) are all working out for the Bobcats, and (b) the Kings' workout was not just the Kings', it was a joint workout, with Houston playing host and 6 other teams being involved. They even got 9 guys who didn't attend predraft camp to come (Fesenko and Jason Smith among them). And then some more private time with Brewer and Thornton afterwards, but I was unable to find out anything about cancellations, so... I'm curious. Green and Wright obviously have nothing against working out with Brewer, and is Thornton really so scary?

We have a workout scheduled for Hawes, BTW. :eek:
 
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ParniValjak

ParniValjak

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Entity said:
I'd have to go with nbrans on this one. Smith is a better athlete than Hawes. Hawes is a BROKE mans Brad Miller at BEST and why would we want that when we have Brad Miller.
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The comparisons with Brad Miller are pointless. The only similarity between the two are that both play C and both are white. The rest of their game is so different its not funny.

Hawes has a polished post game and is fundamentaly best big man in the draft. Yeah he can shoot but Brad Miller can only dream about post moves that Hawes already has.

Hawes also happens to be more athletic, better shot blocker (although questionable if it translates to next level) and genuine 7'0".

Tell me what is it that makes you think of Hawes as the next Brad Miller?
 
beb0p

beb0p

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fnordius said:
Would you mind telling me where you read the above? I'm just curious, because (a) Green, J. Wright and Brewer (along with T. Young) are all working out for the Bobcats, and (b) the Kings' workout was not just the Kings', it was a joint workout, with Houston playing host and 6 other teams being involved. They even got 9 guys who didn't attend predraft camp to come (Fesenko and Jason Smith among them). And then some more private time with Brewer and Thornton afterwards, but I was unable to find out anything about cancellations, so... I'm curious. Green and Wright obviously have nothing against working out with Brewer, and is Thornton really so scary?

We have a workout scheduled for Hawes, BTW. :eek:
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I read it on DX:

-Sacramento's super small forward workout that fizzled...also conducted in Orlando. Originally scheduled to attend were Corey Brewer, Al Thornton, Jeff Green and Julian Wright..except the later two reportedly canceled, which gave Ron Lewis and Sun Yue a chance to attend instead.
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2098
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I do think the Kings will schedule workouts with Wright and Green some other time, that's not the issue. The issue is seeing prospects who are "afraid" to go head to head with other equally talented players. I believe there's a reason why GP scheduled those four players at the same workout - he wants to see how well Wright and Green create offensively against a good defender like Brewer. He wants to see how Green looks against guys who are more athletic than. Etc.

It's unlikely that we can bring in the top four SFs in the same workout again, so Wright/Green has successfully dodged their toughest opponents. So what if Wright/Green comes to Sac and totally dominates against some 2nd rounders? That proves nothing. And GP's doubt about Wright/Green's weakness are never addressed.

It's kinda like Gerald Green's stunt a couple of years ago. He kept avoiding workouts with other top SG/SFs, so GMs doubt about his game were never addressed. Green ended up sliding more than 10 spots.

At least that's what I hope will happen to Green and Wright anyway. I really don't want us drafting those clowns.:(
 
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BMiller52

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I'd prefer Green to Thornton or Brewer because he has potential to play PF... I dunno though. Maybe you're right but it could've also been that they had some legit reason they couldn't attend. I think they'll work out in Sac, probably against eachother IMO.
 
beb0p

beb0p

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BMiller52 said:
Maybe you're right but it could've also been that they had some legit reason they couldn't attend. I think they'll work out in Sac, probably against eachother IMO.
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Yeah I thought about maybe they have legit reasons for canceling, but then I thought they are already in Orlando, and they know they are there to showcase their talent. What could be so important that they had to cancel their workouts? To go to Disney World?

Jeff Green especially; he hasn't signed with an agent and he's still keeping his option to return to school. He's looking for a promise there, you'd think missing workout with a lottery team is the last thing he'd do. Plus, if he travels to Sac he has for pay for all the expenese in order to keep his school eligibility open, so why wouldn't he want to work out for us while still in Orlando?

But then again, I'm biased cuz I don't want us drafting Green. :)
 
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