Old Trade Thread (no longer need to post all trades here)

Replace Sampson with either Cisco/Martin (Martin being my choice) and it might work.

Chandler's damn BYC contract is beyond confusing.
 
VF21 said:
I, in direct oppostion to nbrans, do not see Petrie pulling the trigger on a deal that sends Bonzi anywhere. At least not until he's seen how this new team has a chance to play together.

Bibby, Bonzi, Artest, SAR and Miller is a combination that could go far.

I seem them at least getting a chance to show what they can do. And considering the way the Maloofs have talked the past 24 hours, I don't see them overly concerned about the financial side of things as they currently stand. They've spent major bucks before and I honestly believe they're going to give this current assemblage a good chance before changing it.

If anything, one or more of the three flexible pieces might end up leaving for draft picks, pocket change or any offer they might be able to get...
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we definetely agree on this topic...I do see Geoff making one more trade, for more muscle off the bench. Garcia might be audi before too long, I have a feeling...maybe with Corliss and draft picks, for a guy like Gadzuric...I would love to see that.
 
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Diabeticwonder said:
Somehow, GP has to throw Hart in a trade just to rid ourselves of him.
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Who would want him?? Even as trade fodder?? He's garbage, and I think probably every other team has noticed this, too.
 
SacTownKid said:
Jason Hart for Reggie Evans. Let Price play.
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Er...hey hate to criticize as I'm down wiht that. But what possible excuse would Seattle have other than blatant incompetence?
 
Bricklayer said:
Er...hey hate to criticize as I'm down wiht that. But what possible excuse would Seattle have other than blatant incompetence?
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I don't know Reggie requested a trade and they don't want him. He makes soo little that they couldn't get much for him. Maybe its possible.

The only problem I have is that Rick Adelman would probably walk out the door because these aren't exactly "Rick Adelman" players we've been picking up lately.

Another thing I want to mention, BTW I don't see the Brian Skinner thread on the board anymore, I would hope that Petrie has plans on moving some of the pieces we seldom use. Better than letting them rot on the bench.
 
According to RealGM, Reggie Evans has a trade restriction.

"Trade Restriction because the player signed a 1 year contract in which they will be a Bird or Early Bird player at the end of the contract"

Hmmm...Is there a way around that?
 
SacTownKid said:
I don't know Reggie requested a trade and they don't want him. He makes soo little that they couldn't get much for him. Maybe its possible.

The only problem I have is that Rick Adelman would probably walk out the door because these aren't exactly "Rick Adelman" players we've been picking up lately.

Another thing I want to mention, BTW I don't see the Brian Skinner thread on the board anymore, I would hope that Petrie has plans on moving some of the pieces we seldom use. Better than letting them rot on the bench.
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The 'bench rotting' is definetely Adelman's biggest problem. Brian should be getting time, but SOMETHING is up between him and RA, because thats the only thing I can think of for why he's not getting PT. Brian brings it every time he's in...what freaking gives, Rick?
 
SLAB said:
According to RealGM, Reggie Evans has a trade restriction.

"Trade Restriction because the player signed a 1 year contract in which they will be a Bird or Early Bird player at the end of the contract"

Hmmm...Is there a way around that?
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I think he just has the right to turn down a trade. And if he gets traded he can't sign for anything over the mid-level even if he re-signs with his old team I think.
 
nbrans said:
Here's a way to get Tyson Chandler to Sacramento this season. It's majorly complicated by the fact that he's a base year player. I won't get into the specifics because they make my head hurt, but basically both the Kings and Chicago would have to dump salary onto a third party to make it happen. This trade works on RealGM.

Kings send Kenny Thomas and Francisco Garcia to Chicago
Kings send Jason Hart to Atlanta
Chicago sends Tyson Chandler to Sacramento
Chicago sends Eric Piatkowski (expiring contract) and 1st round pick to Atlanta

The Kings would get one of the top defensive interior big men in the league, albeit one who looks comatose this season and has a massive contract.

Chicago gets a solid starting power forward, and rid themselves of Tyson Chandler's contract, although Kenny's contract is no peach. They also get Francisco Garcia, would finally give them a properly-sized shooting guard.

Atlanta gets a point guard, an expiring deal and a 1st round pick for basically nothing.

In this scenario, I'd absolutely advocate starting Chandler at the 4 alongside Miller, and bring SAR off the bench. The main question mark of this deal is whether Chicago would give up their only Center. It's doubtful, but their season isn't really going anywhere and they could free up some space to go after Ben Wallace in the offseason.

Your new Kings:

Bibby, Bonzi, Artest, Chandler, Miller
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Slowly but surely we are starting to resemble the Chicago Bulls team of 2001-2002 if we have that front line. Now all we have to do is get Eddy Curry and bring Ron Mercer back from whatever he is doing now.
 
Circa_1985_Fan said:
we definetely agree on this topic...I do see Geoff making one more trade, for more muscle off the bench. Garcia might be audi before too long, I have a feeling...maybe with Corliss and draft picks, for a guy like Gadzuric...I would love to see that.
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I'm not so sure if it came down to it it might not be Kevin rather than Garcia who went. I think Kevin has shown more than Cisco, but the things Cisco HAS shown -- versatility, hustle etc., work better for a bench player than Kevin's package of skills. I could still easily see us go for the cheaper Kevin option as a starting OG and move Bonzi. But if we go with the Bonzi/Artest tough guy swingman combo and just have one kid or the other off the bench, it may be Cisco who is that kid.

And BTW, I absolutely agree with the posts above that this would be best case scenario if got Chandler or an equivalent shotblocking/rebounding big:

C- Miller
PF- Chandler
SF- Artest
OG- Bonzi
PG- Bibby

6th- Reef

That's a balanced lineup with some serious potential.

I just have doubts its possible to acheive.
 
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Bricklayer said:
That's a balanced lineup with some serious potential.

I just have doubts its possible to acheive.
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It really is. Who would we package up to get him? Not like they would accept Corliss & KT for him.....
 
A cheaper, albeit more risky, alternative to Chandler would be one of the Raptors young big men. They've got a slew of them. My first choice would be Villanueava but Bonner's numbers look good and Sow, though foul prone, is a shot blocking rebounder...just up our alley. Not sure what they would want in return since they have a max roster with players equal to the ones we would willingly part with. But, with a new GM, looking to make his bones and turn things around GP might be able to pick his pocket as part of his learning curve.
 
How about Brian Skinner, Kenny Thomas, and a future 1st or 2nd round pick for Tyson Chandler + filler from the Bulls.
 
Rowdyone said:
A cheaper, albeit more risky, alternative to Chandler would be one of the Raptors young big men. They've got a slew of them. My first choice would be Villanueava but Bonner's numbers look good and Sow, though foul prone, is a shot blocking rebounder...just up our alley. Not sure what they would want in return since they have a max roster with players equal to the ones we would willingly part with. But, with a new GM, looking to make his bones and turn things around GP might be able to pick his pocket as part of his learning curve.
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After checking Realgm I think one scenario would be Bonzi to Raptors for Alvin Williams and Villenueava giving us a starting young PF and a backup 6'5" point guard (although he's been hurt I think). Toronto does it to get a quality SG since they will be losing Jalen Rose and don't have a replacement. Would prefer not to lose Bonzi but swing men are much easier to obtain than good young PF's.
 
Rowdyone said:
After checking Realgm I think one scenario would be Bonzi to Raptors for Alvin Williams and Villenueava giving us a starting young PF and a backup 6'5" point guard (although he's been hurt I think). Toronto does it to get a quality SG since they will be losing Jalen Rose and don't have a replacement. Would prefer not to lose Bonzi but swing men are much easier to obtain than good young PF's.
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The only interest the Raptors would have in Bonzi is the fact that he's an expiring deal and they have a cap crunch since they're facing losing Mike James in the offseason. And I just can't see them parting with Villanueva just for cap relief, the Kings would have to include some combination of Garcia and/or Martin and/or picks.

And even given that, Villanueva is not the type of power forward the Kings need. He's an offensive threat and he's shown some decent work on the boards, but he's not a good defender at all, and so he would contribute to the all-offense-all-the-time problem.

It would be great if the Kings could get Bosh, but that ain't happening.
 
PejaHoops16 said:
How about Brian Skinner, Kenny Thomas, and a future 1st or 2nd round pick for Tyson Chandler + filler from the Bulls.
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I really don't think the Kings could get Chandler without giving up Garcia or Martin. And since they are already going to have a really high draft pick from New York and have so many young players now, a draft pick isn't going to be that appealing to them.

However, this trade works: Skinner, Thomas and Garcia for Chandler, Malik Allen and Piatkowski (expiring).

New Kings:
PG: Bibby, Hart (ugh), Price
SG: Bonzi, Martin
SF: Artest, Corliss
PF: Chandler, SAR
C: Miller, Sampson

New Bulls:
PG: Hinrich, Duhon
SG: Garcia, Gordon
SF: Deng, Nocioni
PF: Thomas, Harrington
C: Sweetney, Skinner
 
nbrans said:
I really don't think the Kings could get Chandler without giving up Garcia or Martin. And since they are already going to have a really high draft pick from New York and have so many young players now, a draft pick isn't going to be that appealing to them.

However, this trade works: Skinner, Thomas and Garcia for Chandler, Malik Allen and Piatkowski (expiring).

New Kings:
PG: Bibby, Hart (ugh), Price
SG: Bonzi, Martin
SF: Artest, Corliss
PF: Chandler, SAR
C: Miller, Sampson

New Bulls:
PG: Hinrich, Duhon
SG: Garcia, Gordon
SF: Deng, Nocioni
PF: Thomas, Harrington
C: Sweetney, Skinner
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Yeah, sure. Whatever it takes!!!!!!!!:D
 
nbrans said:
I really don't think the Kings could get Chandler without giving up Garcia or Martin. And since they are already going to have a really high draft pick from New York and have so many young players now, a draft pick isn't going to be that appealing to them.

However, this trade works: Skinner, Thomas and Garcia for Chandler, Malik Allen and Piatkowski (expiring).

New Kings:
PG: Bibby, Hart (ugh), Price
SG: Bonzi, Martin
SF: Artest, Corliss
PF: Chandler, SAR
C: Miller, Sampson

New Bulls:
PG: Hinrich, Duhon
SG: Garcia, Gordon
SF: Deng, Nocioni
PF: Thomas, Harrington
C: Sweetney, Skinner
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Note how we become instant contender and Bulls become the Midgets of the NBA. Not gonna happen. The only way I can see Bulls dealing Chandler is if they get two bigs in return since lack of size is their major problem this year.
 
VF21 said:
Whatever it takes, we have to move Jason Hart.
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What baffles me is why the Kings let go of Eddie House, a known quantity who played reasonably well as a backup PG last year, and brought on Jason Hart. Was it a matter of $, or just an error in judgment on GP's part?
 
VF21 said:
Whatever it takes, we have to move Jason Hart.
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I agree, the guy is just awful. Last night Mike wasn't hitting anything, but Jason was just-doing worse even though Mike wasn't hitting anything. He's bad and now he thinks he can shoot. I wish we still had Eddie House.
 
LPKingsFan said:
I think Chicago would have to think about it if we included SAR and not Thomas.
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Yeah, unfortunately that would likely be the only way we could sneak in as serious Chandler contenders. They desperately need size, but they could also really use a premier post scorer who could put points on the board.

I still do it. But it really is tough just because of the terrible job Paxson has done at assembling that frontcourt. 6'8" Sweetney. 6'8" Songaila. 6'9" Harrington. 6'9" Allen. Just piling in midlevel 6'8" to 6'9" guys like you can add them up to a 7 footer.

Maybe a three team deal?

Anyway, its a longshot. Fits OUR needs. But not necessarily Chicago's. Nor am I sure they even know what their needs are.
 
I'm trying to work out a 3-way with the Bucks (Magloire & filler/Chandler & filler/SAR & Skinner) but Chandler's BYC status is killing me.
 
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