Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
emded0341 said:captain bill, read my post :trade peja?? ....we are talking about the same thing...i mean that its wrong to trade peja if the system is same as 2 seasons ago...if its not i will agree on you...peja needs 4 others to be great...but why not find 2 more players and build the same team as 2 years ago???it was the best team seen long time in nba... I think this is WRONG question ....who will be traded, peja , bibby or brad...it should be : who should we trade of other players to make it the same team again....in my eyes thats the only chance to bring that game back...if one of those guys gets traded ( peja, bibby or brad ) it will never be the same again...I was a real fan of that team , and therefore i would do anything to bring it back..!!! If i started watching kings game last season i would not be kings fan...But i started watch them 2 seasons ago, and many around world bacame kings fan that year!!! you should know... Because it was pretty to watch, something special, other nba teams didnt had..!!and than it doesnt matter the money, the value of players , and who they can be traded for!!!Than you have teamplay and there is not need for superstars (( and on that team there were no superstars, the only one were webber but he was injured that year)) And i think its not unrealistic bringing it back, there should be one big man ( PF or C ) who is good to passing the ball who kings can sign...Offcourse finding one like vlades passing skills is impossible , because such big player does not exist !! But to find one that can pass the ball 80 procent as good as vlade is possible..!! To me its important the last 2 places on the team, besides peja bibby and brad.....
The only thing i CAN`T understand is how people ( not only people, kings fans!!! ) can forget that season so fast...!! That makes me unhappy !
But i would give you right : if team doesnt get the same again , if there is not those other 4 players who can do the job for peja , its better to trade him and get one who is more than shooter...but this is only if this is last option..offcourse threre are players out there who can replace doug and vlade!
And all people here can say is : Peja is only shooter...Yes , he is !!! that is his role..people here expect him to be superstar who can do everything...he is not!! The only thing that you blame( all of you in this board!!), is that you dont get the play from those 2 missing spot after vlade and doug has gone....and for this you blame either peja or brad or bibby...you find their weeknes to explain the unsucces of team...the reason for the team playing bad last year is not peja , bibby, or brad playing bad, they are perfect players on their spot ...!!
The reason is the 2 other spots , where vlade and doug were ...so dont find weekness in peja , brad, bibby...be real fans , support them!!! look at the good things they have done, and hope to fiind replecements for doug and vlade!!
And something you dont do: you have to suport the team and all of the players even if they loose ....you have to love the players on the team as you were one of them ...and something more, and most important....you have to look at bibby, peja, brad with your hart and not the head ( you sound like businessmen, like those players were something you can sell in supermarket or something!! ) ..you should love them and NEVER say you want trade them...only if it is the LAST way out...and offcourse this is not the last way out right now!!garcia has the same kind of skills as doug...kings only need a PF or C who can PASS the ball, and he can be a low level player, doesnt matter, he just have to be in the passing style of play...thomas and skinner are not...
We aren't trying to replace Vlade and Doug, we're trying to replace Webb and Doug. That is to say a borderline HOF power forward and a First Team All Defense OG. Who, just for the heck of it, were also just about the two best passers at their position of their era. Meanwhile our Vlade replacement (Brad) is actually a more limited player who can't play in the post and is not nearly as saavy on defense. But sure, we'll just put together a little Corliss/Tag package and bring back the old team, no prob. You know how many PFs can run our stuff at anywhere close to the level Webb did? 1. His name is KG. Maybe Thomas/Corliss/Tag for KG? Next closest guy might well be Antoine Walker. Yes, Twoine. Oh yay.
Times change. Players come and go. We have already traded away/lost half of the team because it was decided that that was what was best for the team. There is no difference here. I have said before the absolute worst thing that can be done is for this team to stupidly bumble on down the road more attached to a defunct system than to winning, and constantly trying to find and plug in lesser players because they fit our system rather than getting the best personnel possible. To become nothing more than a pale shadow of what we once had been because we are too cowardly to let go and move on.
You do what is right for the FRANCHISE, even if it means trading old hands (and they are beginning to sneak up on the downside of their careers now). When their time is up, when their utility is not what it once was, when their cost is higher than their benefit, when they are more valuable to you as a trading piece than as a player, when you can do better, its time to say goodbye. You ask how I am a Kings fan? Ignoring following the team for 20+ years, it is precisely because I am interested in seeing the KINGS win. Peja/Bibby/Miller are NOT the Kings. They are players. All have played for other teams, other countries, other coaches, in other systems before. Its entirely possible all will play on other teams etc. in the future. They were part of a special unit (well, not so much Miller) that functioned brilliantly together. While the unit was together, trading away a part of it was a serious deal because of how well they functioned as a unit. Trade one away, the rest of the unit might suffer. That is no longer the case. Now the remaining "core" players do NOT complement each other, nor do they do enough for the team to get us anywhere. And we are likely fresh out of miracles to bring in the sort of megatalents and all time great passers to resucitate their utility. So it is time to look at moving one or more of them. To find a new identity. To move on.
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