Official: Kings waive Kenny Thomas
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Just because we waived KT doesn't mean we dont still have to pay him right? And if we still have to pay him, he is still an expiring contract on our books right? Unless we can work out a buyout, which I am not sure how that benefits the Kings. Or if another team picks up his contract, because he cant just sign with another (in the NBA) team right? I am unsure how this all will work out. Does anyone know how waiving Kenny Thomas effects the Kings and his situation other than freeing up a roster spot for a new player ?
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And that especially applies to the GM who some of us consider "GENIUS" and "HARDWORKING".
He had that so-called "movable piece" on his hand for a longgggggg time. Came the time a lot of teams are needing expiring contracts and he can't even strike a meaningful deal to make use of this expiring contract as ammo. Not only that. He also had several attractive pieces ( most especially Kevin Martin ) that could have been used as powerful aces at the negotiating table and the best he could come out is another undersized player who does not even answer the team's perennial problem of lacking a defensive big man.
I really think the Maloofs need to fire this introvert, shy, inept, lazy, slow-to-act, incapable, and sleeping GM. The product of his work again had spoken on what kind of a GM he is. I think Petrie is just not that good to make things happen for this franchise.
He had that so-called "movable piece" on his hand for a longgggggg time. Came the time a lot of teams are needing expiring contracts and he can't even strike a meaningful deal to make use of this expiring contract as ammo. Not only that. He also had several attractive pieces ( most especially Kevin Martin ) that could have been used as powerful aces at the negotiating table and the best he could come out is another undersized player who does not even answer the team's perennial problem of lacking a defensive big man.
I really think the Maloofs need to fire this introvert, shy, inept, lazy, slow-to-act, incapable, and sleeping GM. The product of his work again had spoken on what kind of a GM he is. I think Petrie is just not that good to make things happen for this franchise.
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And that especially applies to the GM who some of us consider "GENIUS" and "HARDWORKING".
He had that so-called "movable piece" on his hand for a longgggggg time. Came the time a lot of teams are needing expiring contracts and he can't even strike a meaningful deal to make use of this expiring contract as ammo. Not only that. He also had several attractive pieces ( most especially Kevin Martin ) that could have been used as powerful aces at the negotiating table and the best he could come out is another undersized player who does not even answer the team's perennial problem of lacking a defensive big man.
I really think the Maloofs need to fire this introvert, shy, inept, lazy, slow-to-act, incapable, and sleeping GM. The product of his work again had spoken on what kind of a GM he is. I think Petrie is just not that good to make things happen for this franchise.
He had that so-called "movable piece" on his hand for a longgggggg time. Came the time a lot of teams are needing expiring contracts and he can't even strike a meaningful deal to make use of this expiring contract as ammo. Not only that. He also had several attractive pieces ( most especially Kevin Martin ) that could have been used as powerful aces at the negotiating table and the best he could come out is another undersized player who does not even answer the team's perennial problem of lacking a defensive big man.
I really think the Maloofs need to fire this introvert, shy, inept, lazy, slow-to-act, incapable, and sleeping GM. The product of his work again had spoken on what kind of a GM he is. I think Petrie is just not that good to make things happen for this franchise.
Doesn't really effect us at all except I think that if somebody else signs him, then whatever they pay him we don't have to. I may be mixing up my sports here, but think that's the way it works. Meaning if we owe him $3mil for the rest of the year, and some team picks him up for $500,000 for the rest of the year, then we only have to pay $2.5mil, and the other team pays the other $500,000. But otherwise, no real benefit. No real cost either. He wasn't going to play anyway, so might as well set him free.
And as far as the cap situation -- it changes nothing. We no longer have to pay him after April 15th or so. And between he and Hughes that will be $22+mil coming off the books. So we are set up now to be players in this summer's free agency bonanza if we want to be.
And as far as the cap situation -- it changes nothing. We no longer have to pay him after April 15th or so. And between he and Hughes that will be $22+mil coming off the books. So we are set up now to be players in this summer's free agency bonanza if we want to be.
Your schtick got old a long time ago, dude. Calling Geoff Petrie a bunch of names doesn't impress anybody. Bring some facts to the table and maybe we'll talk. I may rarely agree with Bricklayer on things, but he puts it out there. You can either agree with his assessment or not but he doesn't just toss empty statements around like they're facts. You might want to study his technique.
I was a blind believer of Petrie for a long time before, but this forum had opened my eyes. I have sometimes been confused on who to believe.
Should I keep on believing the hopeless homers who keeps on putting unbelievable positive logic/excuses for everything inadequate that Petrie had done eventhough the result of those logic/excuses were oftentimes negative?
Is Petry really that good?
Or, should I believe those so-called Petrie bashers who are oftentimes right because of the fact that a lot of the expected results of those logic/excuses didn't materialize and Petrie's product had been ( and still ) dysfunctional for several years now?
Maybe you should ask yourself the same question and you might very well understand where I am coming from. Come on. Let us be true to ourselves.
If Petrie is really not being introvert, shy, inept, lazy, slow-to-act, incapable, and sleeping GM - we won't be having this kind of team now. The fact is we haven't had a good team for several years now.
Kevin Martin and Kenny Thomas as aces in the negotiating table and all he gets is Landry and Dorsey ( who won't make a big dent to the problem of lack of a defensive big ). Oh yeah, we also have a ton of capspace for an all-star FA who a lot of you think won't happen because no big name wants to play in cow-town.
I'm curious, are you really serious. Do you actually think that Petrie and the Maloof's are only interested in saving money with no intention of signing freeagents this offseason. Does that really make sense to you. The only way to make money is to put fans in the seats. The only way to put fans in the seats is to put a competitive team on the floor. Now you may not like the Maloof's or Petrie. I really have no idea. But they're successful business men. And besides trying to rebuild a team, their also trying to get support for a new arena. So does ignoring the team and pocketing the money seem like a good way to accomplish either one of those things. Maybe thats not what your implying, but it appears to be.
I mean, for just one second put aside your bias and think about it. What your suggesting just doesn't make any sense. If you look back at past history, the Kings are almost in the same position they were when they finally had capspace and went and signed Vlade. And, I'm by no means suggesting that Landry represents Webber, but they have accumulated some young talent. And now are sitting in a position to add one or two experienced pieces that could make the difference.
Whatever moves the Kings make in freeagency are certainly open to criticism. I have to admit that I was somewhat disappointed with the Vlade signing at the time. I remember thinking, is that the best we can do after all this time. Well, I was wrong. Hey! If the offseason goes by and we do nothing, I'll buy you dinner at the resturant of your choice. I suggest McDonalds, but don't let me influence you.
Thanks that clarified the situation for me. I was pretty sure he was still an asset, albeit an unwanted one. I think Kenny was for the most part professional all the time he was here in Sacramento. He had a horrible contract with a trade kicker in it that NO ONE wanted to touch. The only reason we did was to break up the Webber contract, which we did, but it didn't really seem to benifit us in the long run. I guess all that is meaningless now because he comes off the books regardless this summer.
Just the way it happened, waived with no fan fare. Just a bookkeeping move. He really wasn't that bad a player. When inserted into the game he gave effort. He was undersized and he was getting older, so his best days were far behind him. He was a victim of his OWN contract. That agent did Kenny a MAJOR disservice putting that trade kicker in. That was supposed to keep him from getting traded, but what it did in reality was make every GM that had to deal with it angry even though they knew the deal before they got involved. His punishment was to sit on the end of a bench for 3 years and collect 8 mil per. I guess it could have been worse for him, but who knows what kind of competitive spirit he might have had. I am willing to bet that if he had it all to do over, he would have signed a more conventional contract that would have made it easier for him to move to a situation that he might have thrived in. Too late now... Too bad for him. I kinda feel sorry for him in a way. I'll bet this serves as a grim reminder for other players to stay away from this kind of contract, because it didn't keep him from being traded, it kept him from getting traded to a place where he could have made a difference. NBA contracts are too permanent. In this case it wasn't beneficial to either party.
Just the way it happened, waived with no fan fare. Just a bookkeeping move. He really wasn't that bad a player. When inserted into the game he gave effort. He was undersized and he was getting older, so his best days were far behind him. He was a victim of his OWN contract. That agent did Kenny a MAJOR disservice putting that trade kicker in. That was supposed to keep him from getting traded, but what it did in reality was make every GM that had to deal with it angry even though they knew the deal before they got involved. His punishment was to sit on the end of a bench for 3 years and collect 8 mil per. I guess it could have been worse for him, but who knows what kind of competitive spirit he might have had. I am willing to bet that if he had it all to do over, he would have signed a more conventional contract that would have made it easier for him to move to a situation that he might have thrived in. Too late now... Too bad for him. I kinda feel sorry for him in a way.
I'll bet this serves as a grim reminder for other players to stay away from this kind of contract, because it didn't keep him from being traded, it kept him from getting traded to a place where he could have made a difference. NBA contracts are too permanent. In this case it wasn't beneficial to either party.
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I'm curious, are you really serious. Do you actually think that Petrie and the Maloof's are only interested in saving money with no intention of signing freeagents this offseason. Does that really make sense to you. The only way to make money is to put fans in the seats. The only way to put fans in the seats is to put a competitive team on the floor. Now you may not like the Maloof's or Petrie. I really have no idea. But they're successful business men. And besides trying to rebuild a team, their also trying to get support for a new arena. So does ignoring the team and pocketing the money seem like a good way to accomplish either one of those things. Maybe thats not what your implying, but it appears to be.
I mean, for just one second put aside your bias and think about it. What your suggesting just doesn't make any sense. If you look back at past history, the Kings are almost in the same position they were when they finally had capspace and went and signed Vlade. And, I'm by no means suggesting that Landry represents Webber, but they have accumulated some young talent. And now are sitting in a position to add one or two experienced pieces that could make the difference.
Whatever moves the Kings make in freeagency are certainly open to criticism. I have to admit that I was somewhat disappointed with the Vlade signing at the time. I remember thinking, is that the best we can do after all this time. Well, I was wrong. Hey! If the offseason goes by and we do nothing, I'll buy you dinner at the resturant of your choice. I suggest McDonalds, but don't let me influence you.
I mean, for just one second put aside your bias and think about it. What your suggesting just doesn't make any sense. If you look back at past history, the Kings are almost in the same position they were when they finally had capspace and went and signed Vlade. And, I'm by no means suggesting that Landry represents Webber, but they have accumulated some young talent. And now are sitting in a position to add one or two experienced pieces that could make the difference.
Whatever moves the Kings make in freeagency are certainly open to criticism. I have to admit that I was somewhat disappointed with the Vlade signing at the time. I remember thinking, is that the best we can do after all this time. Well, I was wrong. Hey! If the offseason goes by and we do nothing, I'll buy you dinner at the resturant of your choice. I suggest McDonalds, but don't let me influence you.
I live in the Chicago area now for 2.5 years and watch the Bulls and I'm really upset the Kings didn't trade KT's expiring contract for Tyrus Thomas. The Kings could have really used TT and have should have gotten more for KMart2 then Landry, more of less.
The Bulls management was determined to move Tyrus by the trade deadline and they were trying to free as much $ as possible this summer for a big name FA. Trading of the Thomas would have benefited both clubs and they have worked with each other before.
The Bulls management was determined to move Tyrus by the trade deadline and they were trying to free as much $ as possible this summer for a big name FA. Trading of the Thomas would have benefited both clubs and they have worked with each other before.
