Nuggets’ Anthony arrested for DUI
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I collected my Darwin award 7 years ago.
kennadog
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Bull. It is not between him and the cops. The cops are enforcing a law that society has made to protect itself from dangerous and life-threatening behavior. It's between him and society. It's between him and me and my family and loved ones. Everyone has NOT done it. I'll concede that maybe the majority has done it, but I think they are just as stupid, immature and selfish as Carmelo.They are would-be murderers behind the wheel of their weapon of choice.
You seem to not remember what you actually said, so let me remind you:
You didn't say some, you didn't say many, you didn't even say the majority. You said everyone. EVERYONE drinks and drives, according to you, or has done it. And you said that AFTER five people came into this thread to said that they have never done it. So you either have a habit of not meaning what you say, or you're accusing those five people of lying.
tyrant
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just because alot of people do it doesnt make it right. its a terrible thing to do. my argument is this. quit acting like your stuff dont stink. most people here have gotten behind the wheel after at least 1 drink. beer or whatever. and it shouldnt be magnified more than usual because he's a basketball player. thank the lord no one was hurt. so yes its a matter between him and the cops. unless someone gets hurt. then its between him and the family AND the cops.
When you have poll results that show this, I will believe it. I think a lot of folks are smarter than you give them credit for....
And if you honestly think drunk driving is nobody's business except the police, you really are naive.
tyrant
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its not an issue with you or I if it doesnt affect you or I. a man beating his wife is wrong. and its also illegal, but it has nothing to do with us and therefore none of our business. thats life. and thats the way the ball bounces no matter what you say. its nice to see a few people being honest about the matter. also, it could easily be that more of the individuals that have done it before arent saying anything. the thread is just flooded with "goodie two shoes"
Jerryaki
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so your argument is essentially pointless; crying "hypocrisy" is not an argument nor a defense.
Person A drinks and drives.
Person B drinks and drives.
Person A tells Person B "you shouldn't drink and drive."
how in the bloody world is what Person A just said incorrect? how is "well, you did it too" a logical defense?
in this situation, my stuff, compared to yours, not only doesn't stink, it's effin' alcohol-free.
BuenoBeno
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its not an issue with you or I if it doesnt affect you or I. a man beating his wife is wrong. and its also illegal, but it has nothing to do with us and therefore none of our business. thats life. and thats the way the ball bounces no matter what you say. its nice to see a few people being honest about the matter. also, it could easily be that more of the individuals that have done it before arent saying anything. the thread is just flooded with "goodie two shoes"
Drunk driving affects people every day- read the deadlines. It is not just between the cops and the person who commits the DUI. Just because someone is lucky enough not to hurt someone because of their stupidness still gives the society a right to know about it. I for one am no "goody too shoes" but I do not what is wrong, and drunk driving is wrong, and there are no excuses for it.
Jerryaki
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just to point out, your argument arc has gone from:
1) everyone does it (implication: it's common so it's okay), to
2) you shouldn't judge him, to
3) it's none of our business.
which is it?
my favorite quote from this thread though is "i find it hard to believe that most of yall have never gotten behind the wheel after a drink. severely intoxicated or not."
probably because you're drunk.
1) everyone does it (implication: it's common so it's okay), to
2) you shouldn't judge him, to
3) it's none of our business.
which is it?
my favorite quote from this thread though is "i find it hard to believe that most of yall have never gotten behind the wheel after a drink. severely intoxicated or not."
probably because you're drunk.
tyrant
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a valid argument has many points. graduate high school? and i never said we shouldnt judge him. i know drinking and driving is wrong.
Jerryaki
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then say "my arguments are these" next time there, professor.
let he without sin cast the first stone, eh, jesus?
yea, i don't think you really do.
GoGoGadget
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its not an issue with you or I if it doesnt affect you or I. a man beating his wife is wrong. and its also illegal, but it has nothing to do with us and therefore none of our business. thats life. and thats the way the ball bounces no matter what you say. its nice to see a few people being honest about the matter. also, it could easily be that more of the individuals that have done it before arent saying anything. the thread is just flooded with "goodie two shoes"
That kind of ostrich thinking is a really great way to ensure that all the things that are crazy and ****ed up in this world stay crazy and ****ed up forever.
And, for the record, I am FAR from a "goodie two shoes," but I've managed to avoid EVER getting behind the wheel when I shouldn't have been driving. Even in my most questionable of moments. To suggest that all of human kind fundamentally lacks this level of discretion is a tremendous insult to our collective intelligence. Everyone is capable of making this decision, the only difference is that some people have used enough "everyone's done it at least once" logic to justify their own bad choices and pick up the keys anyway.
GoGoGadget
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That's pretty much exactly what you said.
It was your entry into the discussion:
tyrant said:
kupman
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I will go on record as agreeing with everyone: 
1) I agree that drinking and driving is really stupid and dangerous and people should be prosecuted for such a reckless act..
2) I agree with tryant that basically everyone has done something stupid and dangerous at some point in their life (so please try and resist the temptation of piling on "melo). I think this is kind of what Tyrant is trying to say.
1) I agree that drinking and driving is really stupid and dangerous and people should be prosecuted for such a reckless act..
2) I agree with tryant that basically everyone has done something stupid and dangerous at some point in their life (so please try and resist the temptation of piling on "melo). I think this is kind of what Tyrant is trying to say.
the thread is just flooded with "goodie two shoes"
Or maybe people with above-average intelligence? People who understand the ramifications of their actions?
Lots of folks here have admitted to drinking, but they are smart enough not to drive after doing so. And that makes them a "goodie two shoes"? Wake up.
C Diddy
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Um, no. I will pile on Carmelo Anthony and on anyone else who drives while under the influence. Its wrong. Its offensive to society as a whole. It risks lives unnecessarily. Let me state that again. It risks LIVES unnecessarily. Some of you seem to have a sickly skewed perception about just how terrible this act is. Go watch Red Asphault again or visit the M.A.D.D. website. This is serious. Try not to trivialize it by saying everyone has done something stupid and dangerous in their lives. Let's try and keep things a little more in perspective here.
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tyrant
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no one is arguing the fact that its dangerous and it causes lives. i admit that. its wrong and its dangerous. he got pulled over, DUI, shame on carmello, move on. it tickles me the responses that im seeing. you would think he tried to knock off a 7-eleven. now THAT would be stupid. but drinking and driving happens everyday. and like i said it could be just 1 drink. and a DUI doesnt necessarily mean he was drunk.
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tyrant
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I will go on record as agreeing with everyone:
1) I agree that drinking and driving is really stupid and dangerous and people should be prosecuted for such a reckless act..
2) I agree with tryant that basically everyone has done something stupid and dangerous at some point in their life (so please try and resist the temptation of piling on "melo). I think this is kind of what Tyrant is trying to say.
and the tooth will set you free
kennadog
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So why is threatening to kill people as a drunk driver less stupid than threatening to kill people while holding up a 7-Eleven? Equally dumb choices to me. People could be just as equally dead or injured under either scenario.
BTW, vj9999, I applaud you for your honesty and for your decision to make sure it wouldn't happen again. I'm glad you didn't have to live with hurting someone else and I'm glad you lived to re-make a decision about drinking and driving.
vladetomiller
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Wanted to join the party late just cos you shouldnt think its very few that dont drive after a couple of drinks. Count me in that list of "Never done that"
A DUI means he was drunk, unless you think drunk means you cant see anything, you are passed out or totally acting without any self control. The state has a legal alcohol level and Denver is .08. Though Denver also has DWAI which is .05, here the case states DUI so we can assume it is .08. That is 8 gms of alcohol in 100 ml of blood. Typically an average man weighing around 180 lbs can have a couple of normal drinks and be still under the .08, that is a rough estimate. Carmelo is 230lbs and I think he must have atleast had 3 drinks.
DUI is a total shame, I hope they increase the penalty to something much higher to stop this nonsense. It is close to loading your gun and firing aimlessly in a street where people are around, you have as much chance of hurting someone driving a car that you dont have full control of or you think you are controlling. With the faster and powerful cars that are around in the market (one that carmelo was driving) it is a matter of running out of luck before you hit something/one.
Also I think you should watch the movie with Jack Nicholson (forgot the name) where he plays the father of a DUI victim, a 7 year old girl I suppose.
And GoGoGadget wins the thread...
FakeInjury
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I'm just happy for this guy, hes alive and rich. And he is miraculously cured from a bad case of ebonics via his 20minute pressconference. Its funny how ebonics are only acceptable if the person is on the positive end of the PR spectrum, and denounced mid-crisi
tyrant
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you really dont understand do you. its like some of you take a paragraph, skim through it, and comment. there's 0 effort in actually trying to understand what someone is saying. under no circumstance is it ok to do something illegal just because people do it everyday. i said that drunk driving happens everyday and the punishment for carmelo shouldnt be any worse because he's a basketball player. just throw him in the electric chair why dont ya
C Diddy
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On the contrary, we all understand what you are saying, we just obstensibly disagree.
'Melo is a public figure. He should expect the court of public opinion to lean harshly upon him. This isn't a new trend. Your apparent surprise to our reactions is just silly.
As far as your electric chair comment goes...
Try attacking an argument that was actually made. You are exaggerating our reactions in an attempt to discredit them.
You really should step back, re-read your comments, and realize that you are minimalizing the issue because you yourself have had similar transgressions. That in itself is not uncommon, but it doesn't make it right.
venom_7
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Co-Signed
tyrant
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On the contrary, we all understand what you are saying, we just obstensibly disagree.
'Melo is a public figure. He should expect the court of public opinion to lean harshly upon him. This isn't a new trend. Your apparent surprise to our reactions is just silly.
As far as your electric chair comment goes...
Try attacking an argument that was actually made. You are exaggerating our reactions in an attempt to discredit them.
You really should step back, re-read your comments, and realize that you are minimalizing the issue because you yourself have had similar transgressions. That in itself is not uncommon, but it doesn't make it right.
if you're a "public figure" youre going to face controversy if you make a mistake. things will be magnified in that way because you're a star. however thats the media's job. not yours or anyone else's that post in this forum. you along with everyone else have deliberately made attempts strangle the life out of this thread and change my argument which was made clear yesterday. im not siding with carmello and im not making excuses for him based on my personal lifestyle. i simply made the statement that people do dumb things all the time and because of that you shouldnt get all over his case because you've (not you in general) have probably done the same thing.
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tyrant
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On the contrary, we all understand what you are saying, we just obstensibly disagree.
'Melo is a public figure. He should expect the court of public opinion to lean harshly upon him. This isn't a new trend. Your apparent surprise to our reactions is just silly.
As far as your electric chair comment goes...
Try attacking an argument that was actually made. You are exaggerating our reactions in an attempt to discredit them.
You really should step back, re-read your comments, and realize that you are minimalizing the issue because you yourself have had similar transgressions. That in itself is not uncommon, but it doesn't make it right.
buddy, obstensibly is not a word. do you mean ostensibly? just say evidently agree. please use them correctly.
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venom_7
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If you didn't post in game threads, I'd think you were Ron Artest.
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