Glenn
Hall of Famer
You are uniquely qualified to be a great troll. Go get 'em.
As to the last sentence: I couldn't agree more.
You are uniquely qualified to be a great troll. Go get 'em.
As to the last sentence: I couldn't agree more.
whozit
Starter
That wasn't nice in either sense.You are uniquely qualified to be a great troll. Go get 'em.
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Glenn
Hall of Famer
I will listen to Gary if he objects.
Kingsfan23
All-Star
I'd like the new arena to be fitting with other sporting events. The rose garden is a good basketball arena that can accommodate the NHL
whozit
Starter
Just an innocent observation while chuckling.
My impression on the "balcony" above the main entrance was that it was behind the panels, but the panels were some sort of perforated aluminum - something you could see through like a screen.
arwen undomiel
Bench
I'm looking forward to the new arena drawing in some top-name musical artists as well. I looked at the top 25 music tours of 2012 (can't find 2013 numbers yet), and I think only 1 one them passed through Sac - the Trans-Siberian Orchestra. Although I'm not a fan of most of today's Top 40 artists, Sac deserves acts like Bruno Mars, Beyonce, etc... Too bad the STOP idiots can't get pass the basketball aspect of this arena's potential.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
I just read something else that confirms they are meant to be seen through.
Kingsfan23
All-Star
Not to repeat myself but to reiterate as a Sacramento citizen it is my preference for the arena to be able to hold a diverse array of sporting events rather than building a 500 mil basketball specific facility. I wouldn't want the kings taking the lead on this solely worried about their bottom line over my sports crazed desire to see the 20th biggest market attract another pro franchise. If Sacramento gets another team IMO MLS and NHL are closest. I don't want the door shut on one.
This is just preference though
This is just preference though
I get that, at first glance it just looks like all the locations shown have side glass panels and were not the balcony features. On closer inspection I am guessing it is the ones right above the main entrance that may be the balcony locations. They look not to have glass on them.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
Vivek made a comment months ago that he wanted the exterior to be built in a way to make use of yet undeveloped technology. He either stated or implied that parts of the exterior could be like giant tv sets. The present construction leaves many panels in a position to be watched from street level. There is something very interesting about a man who builds something to make room for something that doesn't exist yet. AND, if the panels don't turn out to be tv sets or the like, they still look very cool. Nothing lost in the process.
Imagine that you have a cell phone linked to the arena system and when you approach the arena, you are welcomed on one of those panels because the technology of the arena recognizes your cell phone. I guess you'd have to be a STH. Then imagine that because the arena recognizes your phone, you just walk in the door without presenting a ticket and don't have to waste the time inherent in having to present a ticket to a ticket taker.
Just a thought. Or is it several thoughts?
Edit: Read the paragraphs right below the first picture:
Here is the link!
You'll note that, in the mock-up above, we're looking into the heart of the planned "downtown Entertainment and Sports Center," or ESC, from out in front of the arena. That's because the exterior of the ESC's "grand entrance" will come equipped with huge airplane-hangar-style glass windows that "can fold upward to create a five-story opening, allowing people in the arena plaza and even motorists on nearby J Street to see directly into the facility," according to Tony Bizjak, Dale Kesler and Ryan Lillis of the Sacramento Bee:
“You wouldn’t build that building in Brooklyn (bullets? - Glenn) and you wouldn’t build that building in Miami, (hurricanes? - Glenn)” said lead architect Rob Rothblatt of AECOM, the global architecture firm hired to design the sports facility. “You would build it here.”
Here's more from the Kings on the ESC:
Imagine that you have a cell phone linked to the arena system and when you approach the arena, you are welcomed on one of those panels because the technology of the arena recognizes your cell phone. I guess you'd have to be a STH. Then imagine that because the arena recognizes your phone, you just walk in the door without presenting a ticket and don't have to waste the time inherent in having to present a ticket to a ticket taker.
Just a thought. Or is it several thoughts?
Edit: Read the paragraphs right below the first picture:
Here is the link!
You'll note that, in the mock-up above, we're looking into the heart of the planned "downtown Entertainment and Sports Center," or ESC, from out in front of the arena. That's because the exterior of the ESC's "grand entrance" will come equipped with huge airplane-hangar-style glass windows that "can fold upward to create a five-story opening, allowing people in the arena plaza and even motorists on nearby J Street to see directly into the facility," according to Tony Bizjak, Dale Kesler and Ryan Lillis of the Sacramento Bee:
“You wouldn’t build that building in Brooklyn (bullets? - Glenn) and you wouldn’t build that building in Miami, (hurricanes? - Glenn)” said lead architect Rob Rothblatt of AECOM, the global architecture firm hired to design the sports facility. “You would build it here.”
Here's more from the Kings on the ESC:
In addition to a dramatic Grand Entrance, measuring 50 x 150 feet, multiple balconies, and Farm-To-Fork programming throughout the facility, the skin of the arena itself will also reflect the very fabric of Northern California. The arena will be constructed using materials that range from glass to recycled aluminum to precast concrete, composed of sand from San Benito and rocks of Sierra limestone. [...]
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Livinthedream
All-Star
Wouldn't be surprised if plans were announced to build an MLS stadium in the railyards after we break ground with the arena.
I hear you on the hockey part. But beggers can't be choosers. I'm just happy the Kings are staying and they're building an arena. I'll live with whatever secondary sports are able to play under that roof. In the Kings defense, what they owe the fans is to build the best environment to play basketball in first. I have a feeling that most new basketball arenas will be built this way, leaving hockey to fend for themselves or live with limited capacity and strange configurations, like Barclays Center hockey.
nebs
Starter
If another professional franchise wants to locate in Sacramento, it's up to THEM to approach Vivek and Co, not the other way around. The Kings have every right in the world to be worried about their bottom line, since it's THEIR money on the line.
Gary
All-Star
Padrino
All-Star
It's not gonna be open air all the time. We get rain in Sacramento.
not lately.
although i hear we're supposed to get a bit of rain tomorrow. we'll see...
Bosnian Diehard
Starter
not lately.
although i hear we're supposed to get a bit of rain tomorrow. we'll see...
That'd be a mircale. It's rained like once (lightly) all winter.
Anyways, big fan of the design. Very unique and creative.
Trueblood
Bench
I'm liking what I'm seeing and hope that the new building can maintain the intimacy that you have at STA. OTOH, I'm not wild about how there are not only 2 levels of luxury suites but also space between the lower level of suites and the lower bowl. Essentially, you are pushing the upper bowl fans up 3 levels and now you're in Staples Center territory. Anyone who has sat in the upper deck there knows how bad the sightlines are. It's a building better suited for the hockey Kings. Afterall, they own the place and collect rent from the NBA teams.
That being said, I'm hoping that's just a mock up based on what they see from other arenas. The interior shots look a lot like Toyota Center in Houston. When it's actually built, here's to hoping that the lower bowl and lower suite level are connected so the fans in the upper bowl have a good view and thus make for an intimate atmosphere.
That being said, I'm hoping that's just a mock up based on what they see from other arenas. The interior shots look a lot like Toyota Center in Houston. When it's actually built, here's to hoping that the lower bowl and lower suite level are connected so the fans in the upper bowl have a good view and thus make for an intimate atmosphere.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Yeah... But what does George Maloof think of the design? Find out later today as he guest writes the gameday thread.
macadocious
Starter
Fwiw I would hate if I walked up and my name popped up. In this world of twitter , YouTube , etc. people don't care about some anonymity.
Imagine if someone found out you wee STH waited to see your name, then went and robbed your house.
That is just one of many things that would bother me about it.
Imagine if someone found out you wee STH waited to see your name, then went and robbed your house.
That is just one of many things that would bother me about it.
Glenn
Hall of Famer
I presume you have an option. It was an example of cool things that could be done. I didn't think that the arena would be used as a way to rob homes.
Agreed.
I'm just not convinced someone with nefarious leanings would, simply because he/she found out his neighbor was a season ticket holder, be any more likely to drive into town to check the arena to see if they could burgle their home.
Livinthedream
All-Star
Wonder if we can get Crown Royal to buy the naming rights......
macadocious
Starter
Um, i wasn't talking about neighbors. Most STH are at least a little better off than the average joe, meaning they have more valuable stuff. It wouldn't take criminals long to figure out how to use that information to their advantage.
Same reason people say not to post on FB/twitter when you are out of town.
TyFreak Evans
Bench
Here We Build, Sacramento! Here We Freaking Build!!!!!!
Kingsfan23
All-Star
Their footing the bill for the arena or is my city footing 60 plus percent? If that is the case than the city's concerns come before their bottom line.
If the design of this arena amounts to them raking in the most cash basketball specific over the city attracting more sports teams I can't be happy.
Barclays is an example but that region didn't need a multi purpose facility
Oh well. I guess you're entitled to your opinion.
Livinthedream
All-Star
MSG is occupied, so there was a need for another hockey venue in NYC. The Islanders had to suck it up and play in Barclay's Center as their only option to get out of their aging building. You can't make an arena that is ideal for both hockey and basketball. Basically, when you make an arena capable of supporting 17k plus for NHL hockey, the basketball experience will suffer. The arena will be cavernous and you may lose ideal viewing angles of the basketball court. See Staples Center, Pepsi Center, etc.. and you will notice corner seats that don't even face the court for basketball games.
I think you have to build the arena to best benefit the team you already have. From an economic stand point, the better the return on investment for the Kings at the arena, the more secure the city is in getting back their required annual revenue from the deal.
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