[NBA] Comments that don't warrant a thread (DEC)

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ShastaKingsFan

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The_Jamal said:
Yeah, kind of like Ellis spending last year developing in the G-League and becoming a rotation player this year, I imagine that we'll very likely need Jones to make a similar leap next season. Seems very unlikely we return with the same G depth next year with Davion regressing, Monk a UFA and Huerter being our best trade chip among our core guys.
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If they end up with Ellis and Jones as rotational players, that's the kind of thing that can make up for several bad or unfortunate moves. Would be pretty huge
 
Tetsujin

Tetsujin

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As bad as the Kings were during the drought, there was always at least the chance that Buddy could just randomly get hot and singlehandedly shoot the Kings into a victory or something. With the Pistons, there is absolutely none of that.

Dwayne Casey probably somewhere popping champagne because now the world knows he wasn't the only issue with that franchise.
 
iowamcnabb

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Grizz got Smart back too. They have a long way to go but if they can get to 4 or 5 games under .500 by the trade deadline I think they sneak into the play in.
 
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dude12 said:
Cade went off though. Build around him, Auser and Duren. Get some 3 point shooters around them
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I honestly might consider trading Cade (with a new GM/coach of course) and just fully reset thing and get rid of all the bad juju of this core. Keep Ausar on the rookie deal, keep Duren with his age, but just move everyone else and start over with a pile of draft capital. Like if if they called OKC and got like Williams+3 FRP. 4?

Because Cade is in year 3 and I'd be very afraid he plays for the QO in his year 5 over signing an extension. Like there's no way he's signing an extension this off-season right, even though he's eligible? So you'd actually just have 1 year to turn things around before Cade just takes all the leverage away from you and plays on a QO. Seems super unlikely, especially if they don't move on from this staff.

Start next year with Ausar/Duren/a hopeful top 3 pick, a quality asset from some team (Franz?Williams?Keegan??) , a warchest of picks, along with a fully new regime. Sell off Ivey/Bojan/Beef Stew. Get whatever you can from Bagley/Wiseman/Burks. I'd feel much better about that future than Cade heading into his year 4 season without an extension and experiencing one of the worst calendar years for a professional team in NBA history.
 
iowamcnabb

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The_Jamal said:
I honestly might consider trading Cade (with a new GM/coach of course) and just fully reset thing and get rid of all the bad juju of this core. Keep Ausar on the rookie deal, keep Duren with his age, but just move everyone else and start over with a pile of draft capital. Like if if they called OKC and got like Williams+3 FRP. 4?

Because Cade is in year 3 and I'd be very afraid he plays for the QO in his year 5 over signing an extension. Like there's no way he's signing an extension this off-season right, even though he's eligible? So you'd actually just have 1 year to turn things around before Cade just takes all the leverage away from you and plays on a QO. Seems super unlikely, especially if they don't move on from this staff.

Start next year with Ausar/Duren/a hopeful top 3 pick, a quality asset from some team (Franz?Williams?Keegan??) , a warchest of picks, along with a fully new regime. Sell off Ivey/Bojan/Beef Stew. Get whatever you can from Bagley/Wiseman/Burks. I'd feel much better about that future than Cade heading into his year 4 season without an extension and experiencing one of the worst calendar years for a professional team in NBA history.
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I personally don’t think it’s as dire as it seems on the surface. Cade Thompson and Duren is not a bad core if they can clean up the rest of the roster. They have 60 mil in cap space. Houston was terrible last year and turned it around mostly due to the emergence of Sengun and the 2 big free agent signings, coaching too. I actually think Lavine would be a good pairing with Cade. Chicago would gladly trade him for Ivey and filler. Jaden has potential but is bad defensively AND can’t shoot. Trade Bogi for a pick or two. Go into the off season with:

Cade
Lavine
Thompson
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Duren

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top 5 pick
First round pick received for Bogi
30+ mil in cap space

Or keep Bogi and spend some cash updating the bench with shooters and defenders. Feels like they have some avenues to improve.
 
SLAB

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Sengun is going to be my “what could have been” guy over Luka the way he’s going. Imagine taking Davion Mitchell over him for some reason.
 
iowamcnabb

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SLAB said:
Sengun is going to be my “what could have been” guy over Luka the way he’s going. Imagine taking Davion Mitchell over him for some reason.
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the guy who really messed up was Presti. Traded Sengun for more picks they didn’t need

SGA
Insert player
JDub
Chet
Sengun
 
kingsboi

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ESP47 said:
He's not wrong but it's kind of funny how you didn't seem him talking about this when his team was taking full advantage of it while winning championships.

I'm still not sure to this day if Curry is capable of shooting a 3 without falling down.
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I don't watch the Warriors too much but does he get a lot of calls when he falls down? or did he when they were winning ships?
 
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ESP47

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kingsboi said:
I don't watch the Warriors too much but does he get a lot of calls when he falls down? or did he when they were winning ships?
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I don't have statistics on it but I'll tell you that he wouldn't do it if it wasn't successful for him. Same with players laying the ball in and sliding on their butts out of bounds. There's really no reason for it other than attempting to fool the refs.

It's why I roll my eyes at the flop rules they try to implement. Just choke on the whistle when players flop. If they throw themselves to the ground, they're putting their team at a disadvantage because they've just taken themselves out of the play. There's no need for a subjective flopping call. Just don't blow the whistle either way and the players will stop flailing all over the place because there will no longer be a benefit to it.
 
kingsboi

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ESP47 said:
I don't have statistics on it but I'll tell you that he wouldn't do it if it wasn't successful for him. Same with players laying the ball in and sliding on their butts out of bounds. There's really no reason for it other than attempting to fool the refs.

It's why I roll my eyes at the flop rules they try to implement. Just choke on the whistle when players flop. If they throw themselves to the ground, they're putting their team at a disadvantage because they've just taken themselves out of the play. There's no need for a subjective flopping call. Just don't blow the whistle either way and the players will stop flailing all over the place because there will no longer be a benefit to it.
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if you have enough head coaches calling out officials then it may eventually lead Silver and crew to make some changes, at least one would hope
 
iowamcnabb

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Watched a little of the Blazers game. They trotted out a new center tonight since Reath was out. Badji, who went to hs at NBA academy in Africa. 7 footer with an 7’9 wingspan. Looked really active out there
 
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