Mullin offered job as consultant

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
You could see this coming, and with such an inexperienced GM you probably want somebody else there to consult with. That said, having a Nellieball consultant does little for my comfort.
 
#3
OK....I'm ready to hire some people without GSW ties. Expand our horizon a bit. Not as if GSW was the model franchise for the last decade. We went from only dealing with Houston to only dealing with GSW.
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#4
I will reserve judgment until we see how it goes. I have a lot of respect for CM and how he played the game. I have never been sure if he built Nelly pt2 because he believed in it or because he need to build a team for Nelly. It may well be that Mullins understanding of the game is deep enough that he sees how to make the best of what he has, and with a defensive coach, he will get him the guys he can do the best with.
 
#5
If true....yikes! :eek:

Nellieball here we come! :(

Considering the source, I will not take it as gospel until someone a lot more reputable reports it...ie Sam Amick or someone like that.

I like the idea of a consultant but don't like the candidate. I would have much rather someone like Steve Kerr or someone who values defence and knows what successful teams are built on.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#7
I would hire someone outside the Warriors/Nellie system as it will become too easy to fall into old patterns. Get someone with an original and different thought. I wouldn't want Mullins only because this is getting a bit incestuous.
 

rainmaker

Hall of Famer
#8
I love Mully. Actually play pick up with him every now and then and in talking to him found out he runs a camp at the elementary school I went to in NY. Small world. Real nice guy. Can still shoot the hell out of the rock.

But I don't like what he did during his stint in GS. That's worrisome. The hope if true would be that what happened during his time in GS was due to previous ownership. Don't like the Nelly influence.
 
#9
Nellie ball is not happening with Malone. We needed a big name hof'er to get the ear of free agents and add weight to yje franchise. Thr real tie between allthese guys is NY, not GS. I also think it was good to get an offensive mind on the crew. We may see fast paced ball, but it won't be without defense. Of course the worry is will they value defensive bigs. They've already basically said we're running the offense through Cousins.
 

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#10
Nellie ball is not happening with Malone. We needed a big name hof'er to get the ear of free agents and add weight to yje franchise. Thr real tie between allthese guys is NY, not GS. I also think it was good to get an offensive mind on the crew. We may see fast paced ball, but it won't be without defense. Of course the worry is will they value defensive bigs. They've already basically said we're running the offense through Cousins.
I suspect you are right. I think Mullin is being brought in to show PDA the ropes, facilitate deals and comfort share holders.
 
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He was a horrible drafter so hopefully he isn't being brought in for those purposes. In terms of the Nellie ball thing, that was the coach so he acquired guys that fit that style and he actually made some nice trades and role player signings. If it wasn't for the draft record, I'd think it was a real good move. Even with that, I'd like to see him free of Nellie before passing judgement.

He's also a guy that had some serious off court problems so that might be a nice influence for cuz, especially since he is highly respected but also highly personable.
 
#16
In terms of the Nellie ball thing, that was the coach so he acquired guys that fit that style and he actually made some nice trades and role player signings..
Yeah that's the thing. Too many people are caught up on GMs and coaches running things a certain way when in reality the best ones adapt to their personnel. I'm not a huge fan of the job Mullin did but I'm not going to knock him just because he tried giving his coach the types of players that he wanted.
 
#20
Surely we could have done a heck of a lot better here (if true). This is the only move so far this off-season that I am not particularly happy with. Time will tell I guess.
 
#21
Surely we could have done a heck of a lot better here (if true). This is the only move so far this off-season that I am not particularly happy with. Time will tell I guess.
Make a suggestion. Otherwise you just sound like a whiner. You don't sound smart.

You also don't know what criteria they were looling for in the role.

And if Steve Kerr is your top choice, I rest my case.
 
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Make a suggestion. Otherwise you just sound like a whiner. You don't sound smart.

You also don't know what criteria they were looling for in the role.

And if Steve Kerr is your top choice, I rest my case.
Well... considering PDA is praised in pretty much every GM responsibility except player evaluation/scouting, plus the fact the GM he last worked under had an extensive scouting background, I'm assuming they are trying to give PDA some help in the talent evaluation department. I think it's understandable that many are not impressed with Mullin's track record in that regard.
 
#23
I'd probably rather have Chris Wallace than Mullin. And I DON'T like Wallace, so thats saying a lot. Think this is a mistake we'd be making.
 
#24
Make a suggestion. Otherwise you just sound like a whiner. You don't sound smart.

You also don't know what criteria they were looling for in the role.

And if Steve Kerr is your top choice, I rest my case.
Pot calling the kettle black! :rolleyes:

Give me someone who at least has the concept of knowing how to build a championship contender. Someone who has either built one or has played on one so they know what it takes. They won't be doing too much of the heavy lifting, they will just be in an advisory role. So yes someone like Steve Kerr has more credibility that Chris Mullin who has NEVER played for a title contender and the one team he did run was a mitigated disaster.

Even Chris Wallace (not a big fan) would be more appropriate in this role. At least he built a team in Memphis that is a contender and/or has been in the last couple of years. Morway was part of the front office that put together the Indiana Pacers. Kevin Pritchard has put together some nice teams in Portland prior to injuries and is part of the front office in Indiana these days.

That is just 4 names off the top of my head that instantly have more credibility than Mullin who aside from being a very good player and a hall of famer has never won anything in his career either as a player or a front office man. Take a look at his history as a front office man with the warriors. Its a **** up after **** up and never got those teams to be anything more than run and gun show ponies.

So before you go off and start dribbling from your mouth questioning other people's intelligence how about you enlighten us with yours and tell us why is Chris Mullin such a good addition to the Sacramento Kings. :rolleyes:
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#29
Pot calling the kettle black! :rolleyes:

Give me someone who at least has the concept of knowing how to build a championship contender. Someone who has either built one or has played on one so they know what it takes. They won't be doing too much of the heavy lifting, they will just be in an advisory role. So yes someone like Steve Kerr has more credibility that Chris Mullin who has NEVER played for a title contender and the one team he did run was a mitigated disaster.

Even Chris Wallace (not a big fan) would be more appropriate in this role. At least he built a team in Memphis that is a contender and/or has been in the last couple of years. Morway was part of the front office that put together the Indiana Pacers. Kevin Pritchard has put together some nice teams in Portland prior to injuries and is part of the front office in Indiana these days.

That is just 4 names off the top of my head that instantly have more credibility than Mullin who aside from being a very good player and a hall of famer has never won anything in his career either as a player or a front office man. Take a look at his history as a front office man with the warriors. Its a **** up after **** up and never got those teams to be anything more than run and gun show ponies.

So before you go off and start dribbling from your mouth questioning other people's intelligence how about you enlighten us with yours and tell us why is Chris Mullin such a good addition to the Sacramento Kings. :rolleyes:
Dude, talk about over-reacting??? A one-line comment by Jason Jones about Mullin becoming a consultant leads you to this?

NOBODY KNOWS what his role will be at this point. Instead of jumping off the ledge why not just kick back, have a beer and wait and see? Thus far, all the hand-wringing and worrying being done before every Kings pronouncement has led to absolutely nothing. Malone is our coach and D'Alessandro is our GM. And both selections have been met with approval by most Kings fans.

Unless I missed the announcement, nobody has declared Mullin to be grand poobah of all things Kings.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#30
My God you'd think this announcement was "Mullin buys 45% of Kings franchise".

I guess the complaining had to start at some point
The complaining has become ridiculous. Every single position rumor is met with either disdain, hostility or outright discontent. We're got an incredible ownership group that has saved our team - and quite possibly our city - and people can still find a reason to whine, bicker and moan.