Motivation for Keeping Adelman

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I think that because the Lakers may be looking for a new coach in the offseason. The Kings kept Adelman so the Lakers could'nt get him in the offseason, contributed to te Kings keeping Adelman.

By no means I'm I knocking Adelman I think he is an elite coach, and he is done a good job this year. I'm glad he will be back next year, he and his staff deserve it.
 
Big_kings_fan said:
I think that because the Lakers may be looking for a new coach in the offseason. The Kings kept Adelman so the Lakers could'nt get him in the offseason, contributed to te Kings keeping Adelman.

By no means I'm I knocking Adelman I think he is an elite coach, and he is done a good job this year. I'm glad he will be back next year, he and his staff deserve it.
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I doubt is has anything to do with the Lakers as much as Adelmans performance.
 
Well the Kings picked up his option around the same time Rudy T. stepped down.
But, yeah Adelmans performance did play a much greater role.
 
Believe me, the Kings decision to pick up Adelman's option had less than nothing to do with Rudy T and the Lakers. It's not a matter of keeping him from someone else. It's a matter of keeping him here because WE NEED HIM!!!
 
VF21 said:
Believe me, the Kings decision to pick up Adelman's option had less than nothing to do with Rudy T and the Lakers. It's not a matter of keeping him from someone else. It's a matter of keeping him here because WE NEED HIM!!!
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We have lost in the playoffs the past five years. How do we need him?
 
Ryan@CU said:
We have lost in the playoffs the past five years. How do we need him?
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He lost the playoffs for us... :rolleyes:... I would say he had alot to do with us getting there.
 
Ryan@CU said:
We have lost in the playoffs the past five years. How do we need him?
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Sorry. I'm not even going to attempt to answer that because it won't do any good. You and I agreed to disagree about Adelman a long time ago, I do believe. Apparently, my view is more in keeping with Petrie, the Maloofs, etc.
 
VF21 said:
Sorry. I'm not even going to attempt to answer that because it won't do any good. You and I agreed to disagree about Adelman a long time ago, I do believe. Apparently, my view is more in keeping with Petrie, the Maloofs, etc.
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Obviously Geoff Petrie is a moron!
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(Everyone better know I'm being sarcastic on this one^)
 
Big_kings_fan said:
I think that because the Lakers may be looking for a new coach in the offseason. The Kings kept Adelman so the Lakers could'nt get him in the offseason, contributed to te Kings keeping Adelman.

By no means I'm I knocking Adelman I think he is an elite coach, and he is done a good job this year. I'm glad he will be back next year, he and his staff deserve it.
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I don't think the Maloofs had anything to worry about.
 
hoopsfan said:
I don't think the Maloofs had anything to worry about.
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Whoa, did I see THAT coming!

Adelman is a super-commodity to Kings' organization, don't know of anyone who could fill his shoes right now. However, his one-year extension is just that, AN EXTENSION. Not a full blown compliment, exactly. I submit that he was given the extension because it's only fair, he more than deserves it at this point.

Wait and see what the playoffs bring, could be he coaches a completely different team next year if things don't go well post season. But who wants to think about THAT right now?

Um, no one. :D
 
hoopsfan said:
^^ so do we.
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Pretty weak.

What you have is a fill-in while Dr. Buss tries desperately to talk someone/anyone into coming to LA and coaching that trainwreck of a team.

It's apparent by your comments that DENIAL isn't just a river in Egypt. That's okay, Cleo... I understand.
 
Ryan@CU said:
We have lost in the playoffs the past five years. How do we need him?
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stupid statement imo. as far as the lakers and kobe go,imo,kobe has not only ruining that org. but his future as well. and when the lakers wake up,they will have a hard time unloading him. no GOOD TEAM WILL WANT HIM, imo.
 
How about because we HAVE made the playoffs every year he has been here, and he has won more playoff games over that span than every coach coaching in the NBA except one (Popovich).

Furthermore -- and the point is so obvious that it taskes a certain amount of stubborness to ignore it -- we have NEVER had a healthy team to take the title with. NOBODY wins without their main players on the court. When Pop lost Duncan, he got booted from the playoffs. When the great and holy Phil Jackson lost even a peripheral player such as Mailman last year, he went down too.
 
Ryan@CU said:
Just a question, not trying to bash him. I'm just looking for a good reason why we should keep him
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How about a good reason to let him go? By your logic, every coach in the NBA who didn't win the NBA championship should be let go as well, since they lost in the playoffs.

You forget that making the playoffs is not a given. The only coach I can think of that was fired after making the playoffs was Rick Carlisle and that was only because he was replaced with Larry Brown. If you are going to get rid of Adelman, you need to replace him with someone AT LEAST as good, and who is available. The only option open now is Phil Jackson, and Sacramento will burn to the ground if the Maloofs fire Adelman and hire Jackson.
 
Heuge said:
He lost the playoffs for us... :rolleyes:... I would say he had alot to do with us getting there.
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You don't honestly think that the Kings of the last 5-6 years wouldn't have made the playoffs with another coach, do you? Any NBA coach who could not take that team to the playoffs should not even be allowed to coach a high school team.
 
VF21 said:
Believe me, the Kings decision to pick up Adelman's option had less than nothing to do with Rudy T and the Lakers. It's not a matter of keeping him from someone else. It's a matter of keeping him here because WE NEED HIM!!!
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I think it is to make sure we do not have Phil coaching our team next year that is why we signed Rick one more year. To make sure Maloofs are not temped in getting Phil. Petrie would have no part in it. ;)
 
forza kings said:
You don't honestly think that the Kings of the last 5-6 years wouldn't have made the playoffs with another coach, do you? Any NBA coach who could not take that team to the playoffs should not even be allowed to coach a high school team.
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Many an NBA coach would have struggled to take 12 complete strangers and get them there in year 1. Or to hold together a team annually devastated by key injuries and playoff disappointment. Its an art being able to hold a team together through adversity, to smoothly integrate new units. Rick is a master at that art. A lesser coach could have lost this team at any number of times over the years.
 
It's a big assumption to think that these players would be half as productive, or coveted under another coach or another system. There have been talented teams in the past-- Sacramento or otherwise-- but they go nowhere and thus the players get no recognition.

Like BrickLayer said, we've been ravaged by injuries every year, and the players who've stepped in have flourished and that's a testament to Rick Adelmen, his Staff, and the system they run.

I guess to answer the question-- Would we've made the playoffs? -- I would say probably. But there is no real way of knowing. Would J.Will have been enticing enough for Vancouver to trade away Mike Bibby? Would Vlade have still been playing and would Chris still even be here? And Peja, would he be the player he is, or would he be just another European kid with the weird name?

People forget, things weren’t exactly guaranteed back then. We could’ve just as easily continued being the NBA backwoods, a guaranteed win for other teams, but we’re not. We’re a team other teams get up for, and have been since Adelman’s been here.
 
Most Adelman supporters here are giving Adelman well deserved credit on getting over the injury problems during the regular seasons and keeping the team together despite the key injuries and yet, they are the same people also using the injuries as an excuse for his failures during the playoffs. I think that argument proves the point that many people brought up in this forum before , which is: He is one of the best regular season coaches in NBA history. Nothing more than that. Other than the 2002 WCF against the Lakers, we have seen nothing but first or second round exits. Now, we can all sit and just be happy with just making the playoffs every year considering how bad the dark old days were, but when you have a championship caliber team (and your team gives you that impression during the regular season) , you want a little more than just a first round victory.
 
forza kings said:
but when you have a championship caliber team (and your team gives you that impression during the regular season) , you want a little more than just a first round victory.
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When have the Kings had a championship caliber team at the time they exited the playoffs?

The only one that was close in my opinion was 2001-2002, when they lost to a slightly better Laker team. Other than that, the Kings haven't really ever lost as favorites. They haven't ever really exited earlier than their talent suggested they should. In fact, they have consistently done just a bit better than their talent suggested they should, but not quite enough to win the final game in the series for the upset.
 
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